Is Swiss Mutual Fund & Swiss Cash a Scam?
April 17, 2007 by Gaman
I was reading the readers’ letters section in our local newspaper recently where a guy wrote in voicing his concern over the authorities’ negative attitude towards the Internet investment schemes that are becoming the latest craze here in Malaysia.
I can’t recall exactly what he wrote but it went something like these schemes offer an opportunity for the low income group to improve their livelihood while participating in the country’s ICT development.. The authorities plans to crackdown these scheme were unwarranted according to him.
I have nothing against improving livelihood through ICT but what concern me was he didn’t realise those schemes got him off on the wrong foot.
Swiss Mutual Fund or Swiss Cash is one of the most popular of such schemes that promise big returns.
Swiss Cash claims to offer a 300 percent returns on investment in just 15 months, an amazing offering for any investment company – especially from one which has only started operating in 2005. This sounds too good to be true and like most things, it probably is. Here’s why.
Confusing facts about Swiss Mutual Fund & Swiss Cash scheme.
- The website claims Swiss Mutual Fund was founded in 1948. It’s baffling to see that their web presence just started in 2005. The SwissMutualFund.Biz domain name was registered in Jun 12 2005 for only one year.
An answered I obtained from a self-replicating affiliate website explains this shouldn’t be a concern to investors as the domain name is renewed automatically every year. OK, but I don’t understand why an established company which supposedly in it for the long run would choose to auto-renew their domain name instead of pre-registering it for several years in advance.
The whois info shows that the domain was transferred to another server on Jun 21 2006 and later the expiration date was extended to 2011. It contains fake contact information too.
- Swiss Mutual Fund owns three websites which are SwissMutualFund.biz, SwissCash.net and SwissCash.biz. Swiss Cash is an investment scheme managed by Swiss Mutual Fund.
To the untrained eyes, the main website at SwissMutualFund.biz is a well designed site belongs to a well established investment company. To me it’s filled with a mediocre sales pitch trying to sell some vague and suspicious investment scheme which guarantees large returns. The website is filled with pictures of people and images unrelated to the company. They even try to make it looks legitimate by including stock market performance charts obtained from Yahoo.
I tried to find information about their other services such as the Swiss Trust, Swiss Invest Foundation, Swiss Brokerage and Swiss Equity but was dissapointed to discover that they either forget to include these or they only run Swiss Cash. SwissCash.Net suffers from the same red flags and SwissCash.biz isn’t working.
Apparently, the guy in charge of managing the fund is Michael Mansfield the Chief Financial Officer as shown below
Then below is the picture of the financial team
The Financial Team page named six people including Michael Mansfield. The rest are Kurt Sandelman, Rupert Benedict da Vinco, Julia Rodriguez, Hector Willem Sidberg, and Fernando Munoz.
Now is that a picture of Michael Mansfield on the first right when he was young? There are seven people in the picture but why only name six of them? If Michael Mansfield is not in the picture, why did SwissCash find the need to include two nameless employers in this supposedly very important group photo?
- They claimed that they are based in the Dominica – a statement questioned by many sources. Without a solid proof, anybody can claim anything on the Internet. I can claim I am based in the Republic of Dominica too. Their current addresses:
280 Madison Avenue, 912 – 9th Floor,
New York. NY10016, U.S.A
P. O. Box 2342. Roseau,
The Commonwealth of DominicaTel: +1 212 386 5570
Fax: +1 212 386 5573
service@scsupport.netThere’s no telling if those addresses are indeed real unless someone take the time to walk up there and check. But here’s an info I found
Hi, I found that the Swisscash address actually is belong to one of the travel agency called Exlusive Departures, visit http://www.exclusivedepartures.com/ContactUs.html and I have made a call to them, phone no. +1-765 277 6831, there was a guy answering me and he confirmed that the below address is belong to Exclusive Departures:
280 Madison Avenue, 912 – 9th Floor,
New York. NY10016, U.S.AHe said they are not related to Swisscash and not even heard about Swisscash office around their building area, or same floor with them – 9th floor…..
So the Swisscash address is still questionable now?? Maybe someone who stay nearby can really walk to that building to find out where is the Swisscash office for a final confirmation…….
Looks to me they have a virtual present in that building where their address points to a non-existance physical office. Now tell me where does the grandiose looking office shown in their Financial Team page located? Fake photo detected!
The domain for the the support email Scsupport.net is a parked domain – quite strange for a self-proclaimed multi-million dollars company.
As for the phone number, several people did try to call them, the line was manned but it seemed they were outsourced to a third party personnels who were not very familiar with the business operations of Swiss Mutual Fund or Swiss Cash.
- Legit investment companies disclose how and where the investors money is invested in, illegal ones give excuses to hide this information to cover their tracks.
From their affiliate FAQ page
We are sorry to inform you that how SwissCash Global Investors fund are managed is part of SMF Private Investment Policy. SwissCash financial facility does not function by explaining to its investors how their money are invested. It functions by paying a fixed return for the investment made. Swiss Mutual Fund has and will always do investment with only legitimate business. We have been operating for nearly 60 years and will not jeopardize our reputation with investment in businesses that is not legal.
- Swisscash.biz had used a mail server located in Malaysia with the following IP address 202.189.46.230. That server hosted several websites – one of which was emobile2u.net. This website was associated to a now defunct get rich scheme at empireddreams.com
Our database and ftp servers are situated in US as well as other places. We do have mail servers in Malaysia , Hong Kong , Australia , UK , Brazil and US. If you trace the source of our mail servers from the email that you received, you will find that its IP
could originate from any of these countries.They claimed that they are not registered in Malaysia , therefore are not a Malaysian company. Strangely enough most of their investors come from countries in South East Asia, namely Malaysia , Singapore and Indonesia.
- Bank Negara Malaysia & Securities Commission of Malaysia had issued a press released giving out warnings on Swiss Cash or Swiss Mutual Fund.
Bank Negara Malaysia and Securities Commission of Malaysia would like to inform members of the public that Swiss Mutual Fund, the company that is promoting the Swiss Cash fund, is not licensed or exempted from licensing by Bank Negara Malaysia to accept deposits nor is it licensed by the Securities Commission to carry out asset management activities or services in Malaysia. Swiss Cash fund promoted by Swiss Mutual Fund has not been approved nor endorsed by the Securities Commission.
Without a valid license, Swiss Mutual Fund is basically doing business illegally in Malaysia .
- The Hong Kong Securities and Futures Commission listed SwissCash.biz, Swisscash.net and Swissmutualfund.biz as scam websites.
- The Switzerland embassy in Malaysia & Singapore denied that the scheme is registered in Switzerland . Here’s the full warning issued by the Swiss embassy.
The Swiss Mutual Fund (1948) and or Swiss Cash are not registered companies in Switzerland . Until proof of the contrary, the Embassy doubts that the remarks about these funds and their historic links to Switzerland as outlined on their original website are genuine. The original website is indeed registered in the USA and the contact telephone number is from New Jersey (USA).
It is obvious that this company uses the denomination "Swiss" in an illegal and fraudulent way to attract customers .
Moreover, the promotion of the fund seems to work via agents on a MLM system which appears to be close to a Pyramid scheme. Pyramid schemes are illegal in Switzerland .
The Embassy does therefore not recommend these funds as an investment opportunity.
- MayBank issued a statement that MayBank2U.com trademark has been used without their consent in the brochures of Swiss Cash.
Now after reading this, do you still think Swiss Mutual Fund and Swiss Cash as legitimate businesses?
list of websites has been under govt scrutiny, if Bank Negara advises govt to shut-down the website, all the deposits of these suckers will be gone.
read here… guess my dad have to learn how to bypass the filters if the websites are banned hehehe
If the website is shut down I don’t think anybody can bypass it because there’s a chance that it’ll be deleted on the server.
Your dad very up to date onelah.
swisscash the DNS server stop since 20/ogos/2007. so Now Malaysian Investor all Money is Burn. either download FREEGATE 6.33 software also cannot go to http://www.sip25.com, secured.sip25.com, http://www.swisscash.net ,secured.swisscash.net , http://www.scmutualfund.com ,secured.scmutualfund.com Now go to reality SWISSCASH is Cheathing Money company. especially BB NG, Serene Cheah Bee chon, it one the Cheathing money head
Fuck all of u guys the most important thing is making money stupid mongkey either is scheme or not i dont care as long as make a money…anybody know someone in USA who sell e-point or buy let me know okieee ??and for poor people who just talk and no action please go to hell or back to your mother hole vi va swisscash
You think you know every thing, how about you learn to speak english before you condemn people who trusted their hard earned money into Sc, I think you should go back to your mother and climb into her arms for security as you have no idea about trust and investing into an honest company. All investors will make money if the company is upstanding, from what I see of SC, I think all investers should look to a bleak future. For any company to change the agreed contract without telling their investers in my mind is not trusting.
Hey big mouth,how much money have you made already???
I got my first month’s payment and the next couple of days im getting the next one so I feel good joining swisscash.to hell with everyone who fight against.
hi,
I have heard alot about good and bad about swiss cash.but now I’m ready to try my chance.can you please let me hoe to join them.I can’t go to thier web site.
cheers,
Allan
ooo.. i mean if the websites are hosted on foreign servers and blocked by our local ISPs
I think swiss cash is going to collapse soon -I heard they do not allow monthly withdrawal anymore. Better take out the money while you can.
Its doing wonders for a long time . They are working with a big vision
How do you know that swisscash gonna to collapse? Have you invest in it?
Kudos to you for your sleuth work
Good job, well researched. A friend of mine is in it, and I warned her several times. I guess those that want to invest chose to invest even against all good-willing advise. Sad, isn’t it?
Hope that you have changed at least one person’s mind! That would be a great achievement already
But she must have earned loads of money by now and you seem to be the one who’s lost out!!
i tot it is a ponzi scheme
this kind of quick money will collapse just like the old money spinning company – 12dailypro and Studiotraffic.
Waaaaaaaa!!!!!Mau cry la, wang aku sudah hangus!!! . Makan pasir lo. Hell to Swiss Cash
eh eh swiss cash pun tak bayar ke? Ini salah siapa?
I logged in to sign-up with the swisscash.net because a friend of mine had given me the information at work; he is a member too. With what I have learnt about them in your write-up, I have had a second thought. I can’t wait to tell my co-worker when I get to work.
Thank you very much, I think you have saved my money. I was going to try it out with $1,000.00.
May God be with you.
O.Oviasogie
Tq for your personal info, why sinece 2005, cause I already join and invest more than U$100.000 from my bonus and still get U$60k/months.
HOw is my family ? will u give them eat.
just real , all take risk, althoung u eat or drink.
tq
Very bad reports from you guys here…. I guess none of you are in swiss cash… If you were you would be making money and would not need to write such rubbish. I joined 8 months ago and have always got paid. I am so glad I did join. Swiss Cash has changed my life. I now make over $5000 dollars per month and next month my target is $6000. But you see if I didnt take a chance at the start I would never got to where I am today.
Hey, Garybiz1,
Good to see your comment. I just joined SC and am waiting from my first 30 day payout – due in a few days. Please tell me…evidently, you were in the previous program –300% in 30 days. How did that work for you and your friends? If that went well, there’s some evidence that the SIP25 will work as well.
PS: Yes; the naysayers are all outsiders. So far, I’ve seen nothing negative on the net from actual or previous investors. That tells you something.
How long does it takes, from the time you requested the transfer of funds from your SC account to your bank account?
dear sir,
i am enoch from india, would like to buy e points from you, if you are giving me, how can the transaction be done, mail me in detail. thank you.
Its already going on in india especially in Pune and Bangalore
Why dont you contact the indian team ?
cheers
send me a email… i’m from new zealand… i have a friend who has been in swiss for 2 years and has alot of connections and e-points. taj.minhas@gmail.com
Hi,
I have some e-points in swisscash which I’m interested to sell. But I don’t know how to transfer the e-points as the site is down.
Regards,
S.Ravindranath
Hi Garybiz1,
I also joined swisscash 7 months ago.Can you tell me how to withdraw the money? Last july 5,2007 I tried to withdraw my money but the money still not shown in my account.They sent me email to wait until 5 working days.Please your advice.Myemail:abdulrs_53@yahoo.com.
Thank you
Rahman
Hi,
I too have plan to invest, but the site is not working for past3 days, is that happening some think to SWISSCASH.
Can i have your contact number or mail me, to know more on swiss investment.
Regards,
Kishore
9841318152
Chennai
swisscash new website is http://www.swisscash25.net however it’s on maintenance so u can log in later
yeah … question is when??!!! there are no courtesy news from SC to inform 1)URL of the new website address, 2)when it was stopped for maintenance and when back online. As far as my IT experience goes, it only require a maximum of 2 days from setup to have the site ported and running as per normal like right now on swisscash25.net (excluding domain name & hardware purchase and so forth). If there is an upgrade to the webpages, the programmers could perform it behind-the-scene until it is fit to be introduced. But its been more than a week so obviously all serious investors are very edgy and frustrated. SC by keeping mum in this does not help alleviate the situation.
How did you get the new web address of SC? I checked the web address, and there is SC web existing. Before I log-in my account,I asked my up-line of SC. Then he said that http://www.swisscash25.net is not genuine.
He also said that we should prepare for the worst case scenario if SC won’t come back officially by 15 Sep. What’s your info?
Dear sir i want to invest in swiss cash, can you please help me how to invest
Regards- Vipul
Swiss Cash is a total con job. A ponzi scheme, a fraud, a deception. It is impossible for any genuine business to pay the returns they promise. It must and will collapse at some point. No one will get their money back. The crooks will be laughing, the gullible crying.
It’s true it’s just a scam ladies and gentleman don’t follow in this bullshit, I have lost a lots of money.
Shon
Why? Why? Huh? Y u so hard on swisscash? your scheme olady burnt kah, yr grandad hang himself becaos he lost money on legal 4D Magnum or licensed Sporty Toto and collapse in Gentong KasiNo! …me even mati, many times buy selangor tuf tuf no slike money ho ho
empty shell.. when time is right, it will just collapse.. then everybody just clapping hands
NOt money can not talk bos, because we are investor kuadran, my team all take risker to be rich and chang the world and our family, just until today ,may8, 2007 my bonus to eat more than U$10k, this months must more thank U$70k, not to bad for my family and I already creat more than 7 millionare in my country Indonesia, what about u>? how many peoplehave u help?
be tha best only team http://www.mutualoffshore.com
regard,
investor for ever
+6281553001291
http://www.drtedy.com
Hi There
With so many contradicting information. Wish to receive a reply from those that are happy with Swisscash. Please email, advising me on which year you joined and which country you are based in.
Look forward to receiving your reply
Silver
hi im from philippines.. it’ been 2 months when i joined SC.well, as matter of fact i got my investment which is $1000 and now enjoying the interest that it gives.
hi,
im from bali, indonesia and i want to join this SC for long long time but till today im still surf the news and anyhting regarding this SC. can u share your experience with me
regards,
dani,
bali, indonesia
you can text me at +628164706664
yes i am in swiss cash and love it.
Dear investors of swiss-cash:
attention please.
the server is down because storm came in the dominica.
therefore coming soon up domain the server.
we will bay your e_points ($) .
connect us now : babak.moghadami@gmail.com
Transfer e-point ke : irbeh0742401
Dear investors of swiss-cash:
attention please.
we will bay your e_points ($) .
connect us now : babak.moghadami@gmail.com
http://www.swisscashguide.com
I have joined Swisscash for 8 months now and based in Melbourne Australia. I have no complaints. Yes, as what alavanzo mentioned above – there are no genuine bad comments coming from previous investors. Those bad comments are just from pessimists, who viewed the glass as half-empty, not half full.
hi myfriends
I have joined sc since 2 month ago and I invested 9000$.I got 8220$ just in two month.If everybody wants to know more or need some help just mail me
good luck
I HAVE BEEN HEARING ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR INVESTMENT FOR SOME TIME NOW AND I AM VERY CONFUSED BECAUSE OF ALL THE CONFLICTING INFORMATION I HAVE BEEN HEARING.
YOU NEED TO CONTACT ME SO I CAN GET SOME MORE INFORMATION ABOUT SWISSCASH.
Hi
what news about swiss mutual
l am septikal about it
thanks
gs
Hi. my name is Kayhan. I am trying to join and somehow I cannot deposit money and activate my account. why is that? my nephew in Iran is telling me about it. but i am very skeptic? i called the number on web site, no answer. i email them. no reply??
is this scham?
u need to buy e point b4 u activate ur account.buy epoints and pay fees for registration.visit the nearest swisscash dealer from u.
DO NOT INVEST. THIS IS A SCAM. Many people in Iran have been arrested recently linked to this scam. And those who had invested simply had their money stolen.
wish 2 know further on that. thnx
HELLO,
I’M IN BANGKOK THAILAND, I HOPE YOU KNOW WHWERE IT IS.
I’VE INVESTED 1,000 USD WATING FOR THE FIRST 25% BACK
AT THE END OF THIS AUGUST. PLEASE HELP ME BY GIVING ME
A CONFIRMATION OR RECOMENDATION IF I SHOULD LET MY WIFE INVEST MORE ANOTHER 1,000 USD.
THANK YOU IN ADVANCE.
PORNCHAI
BANGKOK THAILAND
Hello Pornchai,
The website is down now. Wait a while before investing
El.
hi dear, im from iran, is web sit,s SC active in your contry?
don’t invest…..you are going to burn your money like me…and most of us here.
any updates on sc
i also burned with my savings
im from india and now in saudi
how should u be a doctor wirhout stdy medical medicine?
No risk no gain. Our money what… no YOURS! We SC investors.. no complain… You no invest.. you complain… How come?
Hi there,
Many thanks for ur reply to those guys complaining!
I am a SC investor, too. And get my interest every month. 3600 $!
I came to know about swisscash back in 2005 but I didnt go for it
(I think I would hv made a lot from it if I joined that year) Anyway I think it is a smart ponzi 
Same as 12dailypro / studiotraffic
Welcome to the world of HYIP! The higher the risk the higher the return:)
Ponzi or not, scam or not…. either way we ARE making money here and SC has been around since 2005. We have nothing to complain about. All those “100 days” company are slowly dying one by one… but i’m pretty sure SC will be around much longer. Like i said…actually those who are making a big fuss abt SC are the ones who NEVER really tried SC. Kalau takut.. jan lah invest..simple as that… biar kami brani..biar kami untung…atau rugi… sia punya hal mah.
I salute you my friend! ko manang
Hi, I am impressed and betul betul like your point of view..
Those complaint boxes, stay cool..its will shine from the dark ok..? Investments always at the element of risks! Remember this!
Cheers..Brother Kingkimo
nah baru ko tau, kana scam kan? padan muka kamurang main SC hahahaha. kotohhhhhhhhh
Apa sia paduli. Saya kana bayar skarang. Masing-masing kita cuba nasip… haha haha haha.. Kalau brani..labur… kalau takut… jangan cuba-cuba… nanti blame orang lain pula. Siapa mau labur, tanggung sendiri…jangan kasi salah orang lain kalau investment kiok. This is a free world… we are free to accept our own calculated risk. While doing nothing is a risk in itself.. better take some calculated risk. It’s a matter between the devil and the deep blue see.
Just stop to say hi and interested to know if sc still pay their investors if so interested to join to make sc the more the merrier
Hi Guys, I had been a member for 1 year and always got my payment right on time it not only happens to me but to all in my group.
Contaact us SwissCashSG@yahoo.com or visit blog http://swisscashsg.blogspot.com
Thank you
Aiya.. for those who still believe in it, give it a try with $100 bucks. what is USD100 bucks to u? If u lose it, less than one month u’ll get it back. And if they pay you, u can earn thousands of dollars without doing anything. Right? Who can show me those who invested and NEVER get back their money? If there is even one, i castrate in front of you! anyway, for those who wants to invest, wherever you are, my refferal id is sglow1173901 good luck for those who dare to try! I’m on my way to earn good money!!! http://www.swisscash.net
Julian, I’m curious about a few things… can you please email me (roots_man2@yahoo.com) to clarify? Thanks.
julian did that guy respond to you with information, could you let me know if it is positive or a fluke.
hey julian khairul here…
nice comment here that you have posted. Well i was the one who introduced you to SwissCash. When you first heard about it you were sceptical yourself and asked around and got taken aback with negative comments (from people who haven’t invested of course).
But now i believe you have gotten your 4th month payment yeah? well done.
my investment have boomed like mad and i got 700% return so far eversince i have joined swisscash.
Well as julian said those who dare try and take the risk will feel it for themselves.
mail me: khairulabj@hotmail.com (sgkha0399001)
SC is paying. Komfom. Oleidi receive payment for SIP25. This is actually NOT a “get rich quick” scheme.. SIP25 is actually less then 1% per day. Even our local bank is earning more than this per day. But what do they give is back in return?? Tai mata sajalah. Untung juta-juta… bagi kita interest less than 3% PER ANNUM. Jangan susah… SC bayar bah!
They ‘promised’ to pay in October right – so you must be joining the wrong program.
My dear Gaman…. in Oct for ACF. While SIP25 already start paying. Ppl already receiving their payment for SIP25. Go ask your upline.
Are you kidding me? I don’t need swiss cash to get rich. Read this http://www.sabahan.com/2007/05/10/soal-jawab-pelaburan-internet-skim-cepat-kaya/
Bro – where are you from ?
Do you have new address for SC..I got ACF due this OCT to withdraw..
Me at M’sia – no access to the site..I got to go tto Singapore to access it..
Thanks
Well I personally will not invest in SC or whatever. Then again SC does not seemed reliable…
Whosever told you that YOU NEED SC to get rich… who gave you that idea… ha ha ha… a lot of people are in this thing at THEIR OWN risk NOT OTHERS. Mind your own RISK TOLERANCE. The most primitive response to risk is risk avoidance. Teda orang kana paksa buat apa yang dia nda mau buat. Buh byeee…. adiozz… chiao… tumodoh noh….sayonara…
Now everyone knows SC and SIP25 whatever are scams. Read this again.
TO SC INVESTOR which under freeze on late march 2007 mostly s’pore, indonesia,malaysia and other,i know u all frustrated cos before that u all enjoy rec’d wdrawal from smf new york suddenly all ur investment n epoin go to acf new product launch together wth sip25,this happen due too many internet investment scheme using sc as an investment for money laundering to cheat govt get away from tax by buying epoin suppose to be invest but wdraw it by wire so smf profesional take action however on late october this year u all will enjoy all the fund release,pity bcos of this many of u all think sc scam,i live in a country in between of malaysia still ongoing enjoy received old sip15300 until now since last year,n i alredy made investment also on early april of sip25,good luck u all sc investor,whoever want to see the proof that i still enjoy sip15300 while u all under freeze please email me (thesaintsc@yahoo.com)
Please email me and let me know alittle more about the swiss cash program
Hello George,
Have you received your information on Swiss Cash Program?
Regards,
rapunzel
so what happen to malaysian investors that are being freeze out now? what happens in oct?
Hi, SC is still GREAT???
Have wrote you message but never heard from you further, pertaining you are wishfully to prove us the SIP15300 profit return.
Love to see how genuine you look into SC.
Thanks!
i heard about it and it sounds good, almost too good to be true. but there is one thing for sure, as with all investments there is an element of risk. The potential gains is enough incentive for me to give it a shot. I will return when i am a millionairre or when i have been ripped off. One thing is guaranteed is that I shall return.
Hey, truly impressed your view. How about lately? Do you still invested in SIP25? Guess we are people of positive investors as well thinker. Let’s hear from you buddy..
Cheers……
Hey Ppl… 2 more days will be my first Investment RETURN from the SIP25! I am so excited! I dump in USD10K! I read all above comment, I understand many non investor will think of scam, blag blah blah… can you do it as what SC does? can you create a website that give ppl oppotunity to invest and PAID EVERYBODY ON TIME? If not, you know what you suppose to do.
I just started s/c on the 7/7/2007 will be my 1st mnth. but the problem is i want a more secure way to buy epoints, can u help
Mr Wright : Pls write to me via alanbgtan@hotmail.com and indicate which country you are in? I am in Melbourne, Australia. Alan Tan
My friends have investing sice last Jan ,and all seems ok with swiss cash .money comes ,they guarratee the investment till 2009 .One of my friends was broke ,he took a load then invested in swiss cash SIP25 ,then now his life changed ,car ,house.
Note: that they will always be a risk of loosing the investment.
If anyone have more questions about it ,I can be contacted @
sofiane01@hotmail.com
My Trading ID : qasof1367602
hello sir/madam,
can you mail me which country are you from, so that i can contact you,thanks. enoch from india, +91-9440572027, enoch_andrews@yahoo.co.in
I am from india. I invested in swisscash 3 months back and i am getting returns.I will get my investment back next month and after that I can enjoy profit.
If anyone needs more information can contact me on
unrao2@yahoo.com
thanks bye
I find the returns from SwissCash amazing but despite all the negative stuff which have been said about them, SwissCash apparently have been paying its members regularly so I myself may join their investment plan fairly soon. Risk/Reward ration seems worth taking the chance for my money.
Will be interested to hear more comments from others.
Hey, what exactly does Swiss Mutual or SwissCash invest in? Does anyone know? How long do you think this KingKomo user has been with Swiss Mutual or SwissCash? How much money do you think he has made off of people sending him or his higher ups money and not really investing it for their interests?
This is completely bogus and not to be trusted.
Pizatski,
No investments are ever full-proof. Have you ever invested in stock markets? I have known of many ppl who have and have lost lots of their money.
For me if one lasts 4 months in this plan, he or she will at least get their money back and there are lots of ppl who have earned a lot of money from this so called scam, while me and you have been trying to make some sense of this organization.
SwissCash is not an investment company. They are essentially a virtual bank of internet bank, except they are completely unregulated. What is their business model: they accept deposits from new customers which they use to pay their old customers monthly. Everything will continue to work as long as they continue to gain new customers. As long as they continue to pay their old customers, they should be able to continue gaining new customers. Imagine if they began to default on payments, they would quickly lose any new customers, and the business would collapse. Of course one the business grows to a certain level it will become impossible to gain enough new customers to support the old customers, hence the reason they predict 2009 as the “end date”. Note also that while the business continues, those running it are skimming off piles of money, which they will obviously disappear with once 2009 rolls around. So… invest wisely.
Hi guys,
Can you please advise me about SIP25 . Please advise .
rgds,
Shiv
Simple, just log-in to this URL;
http://www.swisscash.net/web/sff_sip.aspx
My friend told me about SC a few days ago. She, and others, have been involved for about 3 months and she has been receiving commissions. I’m here because I wanted to do my own research. The prevailing theme on this site is SC investors have NO regrets nor negative report, while speculators have all the cautions to offer. Take your pick. I’ve already jumped in and as they say, time will tell. Good luck!
dear sir,
i am enoch from india, swisscash invester, may i know which country you are from, mail me your e mail id and contact number.
thanks,
enoch
did u got the double of money from swiss, i got
Blooloo,
Could you please be kind enough and let me know if you’re a member of SC and if you are, have you been getting paid on time?
Thanks in advance.
Sam
Could you please be kind enough and let me know in SIP25, have you been getting paid on monthly basis?
so far ok man !!
hey hi there guesss what i got money 2day i am happy
Hey guys
I had invested in Swisscash and now all my investments are converted by force into ACF shares…
iam not sure wether SC will be around till 1st october 2007 to sell my shares to them?
anyone has any comment on this please advice is there any other way to get back our investment
Thanks
rama
rama,
I like to find out more about SC so can you explain what ACF shares are? If you do, I may refer your answer to a forum and consequently let you have your answer.
Also, would you tell us the volume of money you had converted to shares?
Regards,
Sam
sam
ACF is the share that is lauchned by SC. they are called as Agricultural some thing
my investment of about 2400 USD has been converted into ACF shares and rest of money i had already got converted into cash before the 1st april 2007
so i am really hoping that SC will pay me on 1st october 2007 without any problem
thanks
rama
Please beware of Mr Rama. Don’t fall into his trap.
Dear hohoho
Iam surprised that why you are creating false information about a person who has not done anything wrong !
when ever you comment on some one please Justify
come on man be gentle !! since he has pointed out your mistake of not noticing the date of his message posted you are blaming him
bravo !!
DEAR DAVID
I AM NOT CREATING ANY FALSE INFO.
MY ADVISE CAME ONCE NOT TWICE TO YOU, JUST HOPE YOUR ACCOUNT IS BUYING CLEAN EPOINT. IF CAUGHT, YOU ACCOUNT WILL BE DOOMED.
PROOF, TELL ME HOW TO GET THE PROOF AS NOW THE WEBSITE IS TOTALLY CANT GET IN. SURE THEY SUCKER ASKED FOR PROOF. MOREOVER, ALL ITS NOW UNDER HIS OWN NAME.
ANYWAY, ITS UP TO YOU TO BELIEVE OR NOT IF YOU WANT TO BE A REPUTABLE BUSINESS PERSON.
BEWARE, THATS WHAT MY BEST ADVISE TO YOU.
Hi Guys,
I have been invested with swisscash since April 2006 and now i’m getting almost 30% returns. I’m getting my returns every months. Dont believe those guy says scam. To be honest in Malaysia everything is scam because there is no Bumiputra director’s on swisscash. Once bumi is in than it is legal in Malaysia. Just enjoy your money dont worry to much about rumours. If you think scam even some KLSE counter is scam too. What happen some of the company was delisted from KLSE what the investor got? In swisscash we got our return within 4 months.
30% returns since April 2006! that is low for HYIP
you said your ROI is within 4 months. don’t you think this contradicts with your earlier claim?
Swiss cash websites are now not accessible from within Malaysia
No website, no new members, no new money to pay old members! period
turk
dont say without knowing anything.
iam able to access SC from outside malaysia
so dont spread wrong news withtout knowing the fact of rest of world
thanks
rama
madam swiss cash is genune or not do u have any idea please send mail to me because of iam also invested in this company so please send the details what u know about swiss cash thank u
Arun,
What is your email to send you info?
El selfmasteryint@pacific.net.sg
Gaman
dont worry
iam able to access SC from outside malaysia using malaysian login information.
so as of now ok
more over u can access by using maxis broadband connection within malaysia itself. so dont worry
I am not worry about SC at all because it’s not my problem. You can check my latest post here:
It’s The End of The Road for Swiss Cash & Other Get Rich Quick Schemes
Haha..Mr Rama,
You are so smart than internet security of Malaysia.
So, as at now..you can still log-in by “my” trading account??? Haha..if you can but only in your dream.
Please don’t give incorrect info to sentiment investor if you are unsure. Tell me, where on earth now you can log-in? as you mentioned “outside malaysia” and “maxis broadband”. It’s nonsense!
Pls take note seriously then, even if you fly to Africa and log-in by “my” trading no. and it will lead you to disappointment. Please and please, don’t mislead others. Whatever it is, just be patient. Only patient investor will shine.
Hi HoHOHO
Dont think you are the smartest guy and others are fool here..
Did u look at the date that i posted my message that ic can access MY id outside malaysia?
It was done on 12th june 2007 which was the next day after the malaysia government banned the SC web site.
SO i never mis lead anyone…….and you are the one talking all nonsense without noticing the date posted……….
dont blame others before looking at your back where u got lot of dirt ok ………….
be gentle if not get lost
rama
Boo..You! Ya you are damn right..everyone here is even smarter than you OLD FOOL! Hahahaha…
Hey, Come on Looser! This is the end of your road man~ haha.
Ya you are so right, YOU NEVER mis lead anyone, but YOU MISS USED other investors money. I heard a lot about you, DON’T keep pretend and BULLSHITING here!
Play by honesty.
IF you are CLEAN and not play dirt, you won’t be so eager to sell your just small nut of USD200 e points. And now you investors are all chasing money from you. And NOW, you lied that you are in INDIA! Oh My.. You must be terribly broke now.
Well, go on to play innocent and gentle, coz you SUCKED! I hope everyone better stay cautious in you mr. innocent.
I liked what Gaman said, SC is none of my business but your ethical of business is SO DAMN WRONG!
You give yourself a BIG SLAP on your face..haha
Please beware of HIM!!!!
Hi
I had plans to invest in swisscash.net but after seeing these comments i am quite bewildered though i am ready to take any kind of risk subjected to realisation.
so if u can send me the details of the payment received it would be a great help to me.
Thanks & Regards
Pavan
Hi Guys,
I first invested SIP1300 US10K April 2006 and i’m getting 30% return which is US3K this month. Last month i invested SIP25 another US10K and i just got today US2.5K. What you guy try to talk about swisscash is scam? Our local bank making billion of rinngit profit what they pay you is nuts. just 3% perannum. If you never trust swisscash is better you keep your money in the bank. SC declare swisscash is illegal because sc want make some money too by putting bumi director or share holder. The world market is not under SC only in Malaysia. Good luck you guys we swisscash investor happy to get our returns.
I agree with u mr Charlie, SC is still paying until now. Only Malysian can see from the mirror, but cant touch it.
My i dont know what happen with my acc when MY id blocked by SC.
Have u got any idea to reach my acc
Thaks n Regards
You are such a weird person because you don’t even know what happen to your Sc account, and you were saying SC is still paying until now. Did you receive your withdrawal transfer vie WireTT lately? haha…
Did you read newspaper or not, go check it out the July4th Star Paper la..haha
For yr info, don’t dream you will be able to open your account anymore, it probably will be 3 , 5 or even ten years after because it’s now under serious criminal breach of trust case, court case understand? Buddy..he he..
i joined April 2006 and my old sip1300 is giving me 30% return. Base on my US10K i’m getting US3k permonth. And i invested SIP25 US10k I received US2.5K just today. What you guy try to talk? You never invest dont try say bad about swisscash. You better keep you money in the bank and get 3% perannum. Dont try think SC or Malaysia government comments because there is no bumi director in swisscash. They can’t afford to offer ALI BABA FOC share on the company. Please do understand if SC not approved doesn’t means it’s illegal???????/
Dont worry guys SC only can block in Malaysia not the whole world?
Who never invested on swisscash they can say scam, but we are investor we know what we are getting. So pls do not condemmed about swisscash.
dear charlie
I agree with you. As a investor i also did get for 1st six months in SIP15300 but suddnely from begining of april month all money was stopped and converted into shares.
i was little disappointed since the SC people did not get any approval from me nor did give any notice time.which is not ethical
Anyway having invested iam just praying god that i shd be getting back my invested money by 1st october 2007
Thanks
rama
The reason that most people can’t access the SC website is because the Malaysian Government has blocked all dodgy investment sites like SC.
Charlie,
If SC is an honest business, can you tell us why they have converted rama’s epoints into ACF shares without asking him first? My suspicion is that those shares will be worthless. But I hope this won’t be the case for the sake of people like rama.
SAM
PLEASE BEWARE OF RAMA. HE IS A UNETHICAL PERSON, CHEATING MY UNCLES MONEY TO BUY SWISS CASH AND REGISTERED ALL MONEY INTO HIS OWN ACCOUNT. AND NOW HE CHEATED ALL LOCAL FRENS HERE THAT HE IS IN INDIA.
PLEASE BE CAREFUL BEFORE LOOSING YOUR MONEY INTO THIS SUCKER ACCOUNT.
Hi Rama,
I do understand your problem. It only happen to Malaysia, Singapore and Indonesia. We are in Australia not affected. I hope too Swisscash will pay all the ACF share holder to be honey i bought 10,000 share of ACF too.
But SIP25 are going very well i get paid intime 25% returns.
Hi charlie
Thanks for your high hopes and we also wish the same.
Anyway all our thoughts will get answered when time goes by till 1st october
Anyway Charlie If i need to seek your personel assistance in other related matters how should i approach you ?
Thanks
rama
Hi Rama
You give your email address or your contact tel number i will contact you.
Regards
Dear Charlie
Thanks for your response
you can reach me at rama_krishnan_r@rediffmail.com
thanks for your valuable time
Thanks
Rama
HI frens/rama/charlie
In Malaysia its totally could not access,can i access in any other country with an malaysian id..
Please advice frens
david, can u access to ur sc? im from malaysia, i cant access. if you hv other ways, please advise me. thank you.
ponch
Hi
This is the site your comment was initally posted on my blog on 9th April:
http://www.skcagency.com/blog/uncategorized/be-careful-of-swisscash-scam-company
I have attached it here so that others may read the news article that was listed in Singapore newspapers.
dear David
till wednesday the malaysian investors were able to access their accounts from outside malaysia
but from yesterday we are not able to access even that from outside too..
so have a doubt that Swiss CASH is now playing its game
Charlie any suggession or any comment ?
Thanks
rama
Hai Rama,David n Charlie,
I’m an inverstr of Swisscash fr Msia n be to share idea with u all too.
A frnd n a leader of my group gv me d infrmtn that thre will be another line 4 us 2 access thrgh it soon .
For Swisscash,this is the best time 4 them to show us how GENUINE their company. N 4 us, as an inverstor of course we’re bid worry but at least we still hv our hope 4 that.
Dear gumpirit
Thanks for your hopes from ur upliner.
but as of now even though iam now outside malaysia but iam not able to access my malaysia account.
which means that all malaysian accounts has been freezed by SC or some one…….
oh GOD …dont konw what to do now….please help GOD
Thanks
rama
Hi Gumpirit,
I am Malaysian investor. me too cant access with “my….” even outside malaysia.
If you know the new line to access, please do let us know. my email shuan13@yahoo.com.sg
Wish us all the best and good luck.
Hi David,
I’m base in Aussie and i’m accessing almost every day no problem. To me swisscash is not scam but some country declare that its scam because they lost on tax and income. You should check with your upline they might help you.
Dear Rama/Charlie
Im an SC investor and from malaysia. recently, as u r aware malaysian cant access sc. can u advise me how to go abt this cos i want to redeem my epoints and pay off my loan.
Your advise is much appreciated. Thank you.
Ponch
dear ponch
iam now in india who was earlier in malaysia.
so i joined from malaysia.
but now working in india i cant access my account starting with my****
if i can access sure i will help u 10000% to get back ur money from india
dont wory just pray god that we should atleast be able to access outside malaysia so that iam ready to help all guys who are in need of my help
Thanks
rama
Please beware of Rama. He is a cheater. Mis used my uncle’s money.
Pa, Important article.
Hi frens/rama/pouch
Even from any other countries unable to access with Malaysian id starting with my*******.My upline was told it will be able to access after a week from other countries axcept Malaysia.We just wait and see whats happening
Anyone have better infi,pls share
Thanks and rgds
David
Hi frens/malaysians
Hope our investment not gone waste.We trusted SC but hope its not the other way round.If malaysian can’t access id from other countries also,meants anyone can face the same problem.Any other countries may face this problem in future.
dear david,
i am enoch from india, i have read that you are selling your e-points, are you transacting to other countries like india, if so please let me know how to transact to your account, mention the method so that i can buy e-point from you, my e mail id; enoch_andrews@yahoo.co.in, contact number; +91 9440572027.
with regards,
enoch
DEAR GOD
PLEASE SAVE PEOPLE WHO HAD INVESTED LOT OF MONEY IN SC THAT TOO MALAYSIANS…
GUYS START PRAYING THAT IS THE BEST PART WE CAN DO AS OF NOW
F……….
Now the Malaysia government sc bang the website on swisscash. It had just happened recently on this 11th June, how do you look on this, is it really scam?? Even the Govn sc bang the website on http://www.sip25.com and http://www.swisscash.net. It can’t access any more.
Dear investors of swiss-cash:
attention please.
we will bay your e_points ($) .
connect us now : babak.moghadami@gmail.com
http://www.swisscashguide.com
Dear Rama & david
I have a good info to share. email me to ponchhl@yahoo.com
or sms me to +60125223048. tx
Dear Rama & david
I have a good info to share. email me to ponchhl@yahoo.com
tx
ponch
i already has sent a personnel email to u
can u send ur reply with the good info in ur email please ?
Thanks
rama
So we pray together for first Oktober 2007.As For me I ready for something, as we can refer 2 Malaysians Dictionary that enternet or Enter net means Enter ialah Masuk, Net ialah Perangkap. So, we masuk perangkaplah….
Hi frens/malaysians
After going thru a deep research,its found that Swisscash belongs to Malaysian itself.Just being setup an office via internet in US.So,if malaysians are unable to receive their return,meaning any investors from any other countries is in risk either.The best way is please stop investing and see if u guys are getting the return for few more months.We are caught and our money is gone.Please pray for other country investors for their money safely return.
hi
please tell me about that how long those swiss mutual fund woks? &which company secure it
I want to invest in swisscash.
Lesson learned here…
1) Foreign investors can invest in Malaya…
Rules and Regulations must change from time to time to complecent the “Administrative in Power”…
2) Normal Local “Street-Person” “denial-access” to invest in Foreign Investment Scheme (via Internet)…
3) No Problem for “Big-Guns” Biz Malayan People to Invest in Foreign Investment because these people have tons of Money in the first place (I wonder where all those GLC’s get their money in the first place… TNB, TM, Proton, etc. to name a few… ooopss… my mistake… maybe from all of us…)
4) We are a bunch of Malayan citizen that will always abide to rules and regulations thrown to us by a bunch of “Administrative Power” that we ourself put them in “Power” on the first place…
5) Malayan’s cannot decide or choose… because “Directive Order” is set from time to time and we should just abide and follow… no question asked… don’t THINK… just be a good citizen and abide…
6) The Malayan Media (News, TV and Radio) influence our daily mindset… in other word… me Malayan’s must “think” as a “malayan” and not as a “person” or “a human being”… with own GOD willing self-thought…
7) Knowlegde in Malaya is for Malayan’s only… but knowledge from other Foreign Country is “bad influence” to us… and might jeopardise the way “Normal Malayan’s way of thinking”…
Lastly… like the “Pak Pandir Song”… Ada Mata Lihat, Ada Telinga Dengar, Ada Mulut Diam… Ada Kaki Bentak…
(translation)
Have Eyes and See, Have Ears and Hear, Have Mouth and Shut-Up… Have Legs and Stump… (bad translation)
To all Malayan’s that have lost their “Monies” in these HYIP’s Investment Scheme… I felt sorry for their loses… but… maybe… all these people doesn’t care and bother to read the “TERMS & CONDITIONS” during signing-up… and it’s oneself FAULT and IGNORANCE…
Do your “due-diligence” before Investing in any Investment HYIP and SCAMS…but… if “True” Investment Scheme that pays and being “BLOCKED”… that is a different story…
“MALAYA BOLEH!”
my 2 cents…
Is Swiss Cash over?
Don’t they pay interest anymore?
Is http://www.sip25.com a ligit swisscash website?
Now that SC has removed the TT link, How can anyone TT funds into SC other than e-points?
Swisscash is not dead. I got paid by Swisscash yesterday and today. Can write more to me on alanbgtan@hotmail.com and I reside in Melbourne Australia.
Swiss cash still there and still give us fix return every 30 days, we can exchange our epoint into USD join our team. Now with new system SIP 25 your principal investment will return 25% a month unlimited
you can access swisscash and join in my team at http://www.swisscash-id.com
Can anyone explaine October 2007? why is it the company not paying until then?
Can Malaysian accounts be accessed? Are they still getting returns?
As far as I know investor that invest their money before April 2007 automatically converted to ACF (Agriculture Commodity Fund) and have share that can sell on 1 october, for their full investment 300% + 20% reward bonus although their investment not reach yet the 15 months. Why october? Swisscash need time and money to accomplish their promise to pay investor on October.
Swisscash also has new product called SIP25 that will return your principal investment 25% every 30 days, I think all swisscash investor know this news. And the investor that already join already paid 25% from swisscash and how about you don’t you want to have 25% return in 30 days, swisscash never miss paid their bonus.
For Malaysian Investor, I think they will can access their account and get paid, after the issue or news pro and contra about swisscash litle bit slow down in Malaysia. Beside that swisscash still inform about their bonus directly by SMS to their mobile phone.
You want to join ? Go with our team success http://www.swisscash-id.com or directly apply your 14 days temporary account at http://www.swisscash.net/idnyo2100301 for outside Malaysian country only for a moment
Dear Guest
Dont register now since none of malaysia account is accessable now
so wait for the suitation to clear and then u can invest
anyone from the Philippines a member of SC? please leave me ur contact. My Yahoo Messenger is handle_d_vibe2002 or email me… add me up and let me know wer to contact u. tnx.
dear friends
Any one from india is memeber of SC ?
if so please reply
Thanks
Hi,
I am member of SC in INDIA and I can help you to invest in SIP25.
Since my student friends entered to this investment program, they stopped getting money from their parents.
You can send me e-mail to: amirjoy2000@yahoo.com and i will help you to join.
Rgds / Amir
Dear sir,
I have been informed by my uncle just recently in india who has invested in swishcash.net & he is receiving payments (returns ) for the last 2 months regularily & also informed to invest in that scheme but I have no confidence which remain make payments regularily. If any one who has invested in it & getting returns regularily from india if that swisscash.net is genuine may pl inform .
thanks
Dear Vaidya
Thanks for your response. can u give me ur uncle contact since i invested 200 USD and getting my returns back. but iam not able to convert into local currency
so wil ur uncle help me to convert back into RUpess ?
if u can check with him and update me i will be much thankful
thanks
rama
Any body or any officer of the swisscash.net may clarify that in which country has got registered as swisscash.net from which government & it has extndenig it global market world wide with which authority has given licence to offer investors in SIP 25 plan of return with in 30 days for ever is it true. If it is true itis appriciable.
Thanks
Hi Drvaidya,
Do you know how much the insurance agent getting their commission? Do you know FOREX trading how much they can make within a day if they are luck. We are in swisscash we know how much we are getting. I noticed most of the comments come from non member of swisscash. Forget about Malaysian case other parts of world getting heavy. My group cover New Zealand and Australia the members are getting crazy to join swisscash. If you afraid keep the money in the bank very very safe forever and getting 7% perannum. Sorry bro.
Hi any one interested to join our group base in Australia/New Zaealand pls contact me at:rukesh27@gmail.com
Now you enjoy temporary benefit from swisscash,will come soon You will be FUCK by your friend,relative.and people will not TRUST you. i am Malaysian Investor at swisscash min USD30000.00
so i know a to Z. swisscash really cheathing Public Money. used dirty tactic this month paid A,stop B, Next month Stop A paid D. all swisscash used DIRTY TACTIC, so someone get some none. this is professional tactic used by swisscash. Hapuskan SWISSCASH 0135726166. sama-sama hapuskan swisscash di dunia ini.
just 4 info
Dear Valued Investors,
The management has decided with immediate effect not to allow any new Malaysian Investors to sign up or accept any new investments from current Malaysian investors in SwissCash Financial Platform.
This painful and shameful decision is made after taking considerations from legal, administrative and SwissCash’s global business image perspective. The local government and mass media have been painting a very bad image and continuously publish malicious information on SwissCash and Swiss Mutual Fund in the past few months. A wrong comparison between SwissCash with many of the Malaysian local SCAMS and HYIP companies is totally not acceptable. Access to SwissCash Financial platform has been denied in the most recent round of actions.
We are currently monitoring and working to change the situation and once we have rectified some of the pending issues, we will re-consider this decision.
Thank you for your attention.
Compliance Team
SwissCash International
Dear Sir,
Thank you for your info. But it is unfair to penalise innocent malaysian who have trusted SwissCash. Atleast SC should allow the current investers to access to the website and redeem the epoints.
We hope that SC management will consider our plight and allow us to access the site soon.
Thank you.
Dear Swisscash International Team,
I just want to confirm myelf, I invested in Swisscash on 30/12/2006. Am I in “CURRENT” investor or “PREVIOUS” investor?
Is there any way for us Malaysian, to get our many back or to start new investment by just showing our I/C or passport to your H.Q. or to any representative that your company choose? Becouse, I think your MAIN COMPUTER did & can saved our personnel information right?
It will be esier for us to follow up the updates and doing investment in this problem Malaysian goverment.
I LOVE MY COUNTRY MALAYSIA. But frankly speaking, I do not like this current goverment.
The MALAYAN mentality I can describe;
‘KAWAN DULU, BARU KITA BUNUH DIA’
English Trasalation;
“MAKE FRIEND FIRST AND THEN KILL THEM’
All the Malayan “Big Guns” they cannot put out the word “POWER” out of them.
As I can describe, If you want to be come rich,you have to
“Lie, Cheat, Steal & Kill”
B.M. transalation;
“Tipu, Bohong, Mencuri @Bunuh”
If this is the government we have now, Their children their pruduce will be same like them.
Well, I hope you can answer my questions?
Tahnk you.
Chefland Of Ireland
Hi any of you interested to join my downline log in to:www:swisscash.net/nzche1896701 infact we can help you to buy and sell epoints. Once you invest we can buy your monthly returns you get from SC. SIP25 is good returns my previous SIP1300 i got my returns of 300%. Dont listern to non-members comments.
Happy invest
Hi Charlie,
Thanks for your kind comments here.
It has been one month after your message here.
Do you have any proof of return statement to show/post to my email, so I have confident to be your downline.
What’s your email address?
fuck your management team till Puki pecah. Pukimak swisscash only know how to cheathing public money, this group paid that group Not paid.Treat Swisscash Investor as BEGGAR. treat BEGGAR waiting swisscash paid 25%. this is Quality work done by swisscash. treat investor as BEGGAR.since April/2007.
everytime Frozen money, change Plan, do HINKY PINKY job all are SWISSCASH management ? where got REAL investment as PLAY PLAY WORK, to let people suspect ? Worry ? No answer ? Today Change This Plan. Tomorrow change that Plan but key point it FROZEN investment money. Remember we help them be a BILLION dollar man. Now we worry.SWISSCASH group enjoy the money at worldwide. only our BEGGAR Investor wait money from sky or GOD ? plaese take urgent action to official report to Bukit Aman and Police Interpol to take further action.0135726166. my88cth@yahoo.com.cn
many banker introduce they profit above 600% on 1 year but amount invest is to big..just for vip & millioner only..can all people invest on it, i dont think so, sc is better..all people can invest on it..long life sc…
Hi,
As u said that some banks they offer more than 600%. Here, may i know which banks r they.I’ll be thankfull to ur reply on my mail address.
Roy…
e-mail:- ohhmm_iway@sify.com
we open for worldwide investor to join our group team, is easy to join at http://www.swisscash.net/idnyo2100301 for 14 days free member and buy some epoint for your principal investment + USD 30 for activated your account thats it, then you can enjoy your bonus every 30 days unlimited. Contact me if you have question
Buy point easy. when ask for return all dont know ? all investor will give 10% commission to Introducer. either everymonth 25% from 25% Introducer still get 10%. swisscash always play dirty and treat investor BEGGAR ,this month paid A Group, Next month paid B group. swisscash management PUKIMAK and cheathing Investor money step by step,remember all investor at swisscash Level it BEGGAR. Pukimak swisscash management team. BUSTARD only how to know cheathing public money.
I will be as a new members, please advise me.
regards
Hello Erik, have you sign up at http://www.swisscash.net/idnyo2100301 for your 14days free account? then you only buy some epoint to start invest, please email me if you need some help
I signed up to swisscash.net three days ago, how do transfer money into the account to be able to activate it? They say that in the navigation menu, there will be a link to transfer money, but there’s nothing there, only two links about the Chinese bank.
Hello Chris you can go a ahead to buy some epoint to activated your sc member. You can see more information about buying epoint at http://www.swisscash-id.com
Dear Friends and sound investers,
As its partially a political & commercial issue in Malaysia with “swiss cash” so,investers its not the the time to worry about the Malaysian situation. Rather You need to evaluate the fact i.e.
1) If it would have been a “money chain “then its sure that the whole show couldn’t run more than 6 months with more precised manner.
2) If it would have been MLM only then even its not possible to give return of more than 5% pm without matching of both side volume.
See,be logical,for eg. in commodity marker if u trade for 1,000,00.00 units per day Globally its very easy to get 1%,i.e 1000.00. But for the trade of 1,000,00.00 u need the cash investment of only 10% of the trade ammount i.e 10,000.00 only . So in this way u get the profit of 10% on ur invested ammount,i.e 300% in a month & 3600% in a year. If we all know that this is the fact with the Global trade market,so why its not possible to pay 300% a year.Rather I should say they r paying a very less ammount than what they r getting.
As per my openion,It’ll be a fulishness for the SC if they colaps this programme soon.As they have a huge earning opertunity throught the Globe.
Finally i want to indicate an imp. sign which indicates their legitimecy,
i) They r paying 0.1% interest daily on ur acc.bal.ammount.Which is the against of the athics of MLM or Money chain etc.
ii) SC could’t entertain pure investers on SIP25 if they have genereted their fund from MLM or Money chain.
So,as a conclussion its true that, they have some other source of earning may or may notbe what SC is saying but its a fact that they r paying since 2005.
If somebody is really suffering & feeling inconvieniency due to change of enviornment now days in malaysia they can contact me .
Thanks…
ROY…
aruproy@yahoo.com
ohhmm_iway@sify.com
Dear Roy
Are u from india ?
it is good review that u have given about SC
do u buy e-points if so i would like to sell some e-pionts.
kindly revert
thanks
rama
dear sir,
i am enoch from india, can i have your contact number please mail me, so that i can contact you, yes i wanted to buy e points from you.
thanks.
Sincere advise: Please beware of Mr. Rama.
Guys,
Don’t try to be smart in investing in SC.Wait and see whats happening to malaysians whom already invested.Malaysia has banned and blocked the access,Its fine!!! ,but my QUESTION IS WHY SC BANNED AND BLOCKED previous Malaysians already have an acc in SC.SC must allow them to access from any other countries..but they never,they totally block them.This is bad rite!!!.I guess this is to avoid Malaysians to withdraw their ACF share in October.Malaysia is the Largest investor among all countries.I am affected.Hope u guys won be cheated by SC.Be carefull and alert..
But those who still wanted to invest,pls carry ON.i’ve nothing to say…
Hope God bless u all…
!!!
How you people signing up. When I can’t find the website anymore.
Hello Wayne where are you come from, your browser need refreshing, try using different browser to open
I joined SC just last June, 2007. I made my US$1,000.00 e-points commission and now waiting for my first wire transfer to post in my bank account. For those of you as eager as me to find out if this is a legit investments, just contact me and I will keep you posted. Remember that you cannot say that SC doesnt work until you prove it yourself. I am a risk taker, I win some and lose some in the stock market. Remember that the most lucrative returns are the riskiest ones, it doesn’t matter what kind of investment portfolio you are in. For those of you that are very conservative and are afraid to separate with your traditional CD’s and money market accounts, you are very lucky to have us to tell you if this works or not, and very unlucky too, if you are left behind. For all SC investors, Good Luck to us all, In Good Health and Good Wealth.
Elizabeth,
Can you please contact me at: roots_man2@yahoo.com? I need to discuss a couple points. Thanks.
hello Patricio if you are online you can contact me by YM: allianceindonesia or Skype : indobalitravel
DEAR SC FREN
PLEASE BE CAREFUL OF RAMA
HE CHEATED MY UNCLE MONEY AND INVESTORS MONEY AND INVESTED INTO UNDER HIS OWN NAME.
HE CHEATED ALL OF LOCAL FREN HERE AND SAID NOW HE IN INDIA, HE IS CHEATING.
HE USED OUR MONEY TO BUY A LOT OF PERSONAL THINGS AND NOW HE SAID HE BROKE NO MONEY. PLEASE DONT MAKE MISTAKE AGAIN TO DEAL WITH THIS PERSON. YOUR ACCOUNT REPUTATION IS IMPORTANT. IF CAUGHT HIS AND YOURS ACCOUNT MAY BE BLOCKED. JUST BE CAREFUL OK.
hey hohoho
Who are you ?
who is your uncle ?
prove that i had cheated if so you are real man if not u are a GAY
HAHA..YOUR MIND ONLY HAVE “GAY” ONLY!
YOU ARE NOT SUITABLE INTO THIS BUSINESS, GO BACK YR INDIA TO SUCK INDIANS COCK ..HAHA!
DONT TALK FUCKING PROOF, YOU ARE A BLOOD SUCKER, COCK SUCKER! EVERYONE HERE KNOW YOU LIKE TO SUCK MENS COCK IN THE PUBLIC TOILET. HAHA…HAHA.
AT THIS TIME, SURELY YOU ASK FOR PROOF BECAUSE NO ONE CAN CHECK IN YR ACCOUNT NOW, SO YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE ASK FOR PROOF.
YOU ARE SO GAY. SO CHEATER. SO BLOOD SUCKING.
COME ON SUCKER. YOU ARE BROKE NOW SO GO TO COCK SUCKING JOB.
HAHA…YOU ARE REALLY REALLY AN OLD FAGGOT, FAGGOT , FAGGOT!
how can i get e-points to buy from swisscash itself.
Kimi,
SC works by referral only. In my case, I issue the check to the couple that introduce me to SC. They transfer the e-points to my account, and I invest the money from my account. Lucky for me, this couple are my trusted friends so I don’t have any problem on trust. You can also wire the funds to what they call Agents, I don’t have details, I’ll try to get them for you if you want. Send me you email address and I will email you the info. Whoever referred you to SC can also do the same, if they have enough epoints in their accounts,
i just want to find out how to buy epoints from Swisscash itself ok.
SC does not sell epoints, as I’ve said, it works by referral only.
How are you Elizabeth, Carlton, and all swisscash investors? My name is James and I am “very” interested in joining swisscash. Please appoint me in the proper direction. Thank you very much for your time and cooperation.
James,
Send me your email address, and I’ll be glad to answer every question you have in mind.
Elizabeth, my email address is be4nine@yahoo.com. Thank you very much.
U can buy e-points from me if u want it.following the website convertor rate only…this is rules and regulation
dear sir,
i am enoch from india, how can i buy e points from you, please explain.
thanking you.
I am surprise many of you guys can’t see it. Malaysians are the largest investor in SC. Now that ALL their accounts freezed WITHOUT explainations, SC is using the Malaysian investors money to pay the rest.
As long as SC can get away from the authority they will continue closing accounts like no tomorrow and paying others at the same time to make it looks legit.
Malaysian cheerleaders were supporting SC like mad before. They talked about risk taking, minding your own business etc.. now where are they? WHERE are the Malaysian cheerleaders in their THOUSANDS?
How blind can one be? Geez..
Hi TehScrew,
Don’t worry too much, for Malaysia case SC did this for temporary measure only and very soon they will solved. You should know why SC did to Malaysian only not rest of the world? Why in Singapore going very hot?
Very soon Malaysian investors going to enjoy the returns from SC.
We are base in Australia and New Zealand any new members would like to invest on Swisscash can contact us we can arrange for you the epoints. We guide you how to become SC members and where you can get the epoints too. We are in swisscash very happy to get all our returns every months. SIP25 doing very well be got our 3rd payments so far we earn 75% of our investments.
GOOD LUCK
I will be a new investor, have any other experiens in
investment case with SC.
regards
erik
Hi I am from india and i took the initial risk of investing $1000. I had lot of Questions running in my Mind. Finally i invested and in 3 months i made $12500. I am into mlm Network Marketing . So i have a good team . We will place people under You and help to acheive your dreams.
we are looking for people who can take the initial risk from Asian Countries to join Us and we will built Your Downline
Visit http://www.swisscash.net/insye0588601 . You can join the concept
we are investor. we would like to pay as an investor where we have to pay our investment please.
best regards
amin
You can Join under us by clicking on the link http://www.swisscash.net/insye0588601 . Please send me your details how much are you planning to invest and let Us know where are u from . Please Send Detailed Mail to syedsinofer@rediffmail.com
Is investing in shares safe? with investing there are always risks and it’s up to each individual to assess their risk level and only invest what they can afford to risk. If you are a low risk taker then don’t invest in something like swisscash, just put your money in a bank and earn 5% a year. There are always risk in everything you invest… even if you think it’s a safe investment a classic example is ENRON. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/enron)… Once thought to be the most safe and stable company to invest in on the stock market … but yer one day they went bankrupt. If you can’t handle risk then put your money in the bank.
I just want to make it clear that swisscash is not registered in Switzerland… so there is no surprise when the Swiss embassy made a statement that swisscash is not registered in Switzerland. If you are going to do your homework do it properly.
Another point I would like to point out is why is everyone skeptic about making a large return? Do you know that property investors like Robert Kiyosaki (Author of rich dad poor dad) makes 10 times the money he invests in? and his wife invests in multi million dollar property deals that makes more than 300% returns. People who are rich are rich because their mind is not restricted by limited thinking that big profits can’t be made, they know how to make very large returns. They also have big money so they are investing in opportunities and deals that gives very high returns which aren’t available to small investors.
I have been in Swisscash since March 2007 and have been paid every month on time .To label Swisscash as scam need proper investigation and finding so called DD. Swisscash have carried out over 70 million of USD to investor worldwide. Do you think a scam have the guts to spread to countrys like UK, US, Singapore, Indonesia, Malaysia..etc. The FBI have been aware of this company as early as 31-8-2006 but have not officially declared this company as scammer although warning from others (Baseless claims) has been made as not to deal with this offshore company. Over 72 millions of profits and commission had been paid to SwissCash investors, financial planners and consultants in the first 8 months(Since April 2005 to Dec 2005). In 2006, they open markets to China, having 15 china banks and 1 world local bank (HSBC) working with them. Do you think banks have not done any DD before they commit to work with them ?? The FIU have already cease their operation early in year 2005 and 2006 if they are dealing with investor money illegally. They are suppose to monitor money laundering ,terrorism financing or any illegal activities.( see :http://www.fincen. gov for for information) . The FIU network (involve with 100 countries) did not did not declare that swisscash is a scam
email me or add me on yahoo messenger: swissmutualcash@yahoo.com
URL : http://www.swisscash.net
Hi erik,
I’m a investor in SC too,if u need any help do not hesitate to contact me at my email..fadzli_0082@yahoo.com,thx
Swiss cash is a scam run by criminals. Everyone who has stupidly send money to them is going to lose. The Malaysian government is shutting down the operation. The end is near. Do not invest more. Demand your money back now.
Hi Greg?
Thank you very much for your good advise. Are you swisscash member? Do you invest any money? I wonder what you say is right? Let rest of reader know the truth. I was in swisscash since March 2006 and i almost 300% returns. SC is not scam. If they are scam they will never pay 25% permonth.
Hi I am from india and i took the initial risk of investing $1000. I had lot of Questions running in my Mind. Finally i invested and in 3 months i made $12500. I am into mlm Network Marketing . So i have a good team . We will place people under You and help to acheive your dreams.
we are looking for people who can take the initial risk from Asian Countries to join Us and we will built Your Downline
Visit http://www.swisscash.net/insye0588601 . You can join the concept
wow… sc had make a very big topics. Think of this…Who is swiss cash?. What actually they want?. Do they want to control the world economy? What will happen if they do control the world economy…will every body need to be register to do buying and selling…how about if you dont registed…will your head being chop off??..then if this happen you know who you had support all this time(sc)…dont regret…this is the end of the world…tata…
Sc should solve the problem for the Malaysian investors as soon as possible. The decision made is a very bad example to all investors the world over.
Sorry guys, they can’t solved it. SC world wide operation is going to be closed. The people behind it are Malaysian.
http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Tuesday/NewsBreak/20070710140632/Article
Hey Gaman
The fact that s/c is an offshore company, will it really be closed down.
The defendants are Malaysian. Besides the largest iinvestors are Malaysian, how long do you think SC can survive?
Now who is laughing all the way to the bank? its the pioner investors of course, the late comers will get their fingers burnt, nah koto! those who live by greed will die of greed.
swiss mutual fund is HYIP scheme, Since Malaysian goverment announced SWISSCASH is illegal 16/6/2007 SWISSCASH take advantage to frozen MALAYSIAN investor money.now SWISSCASH made huge money at CHINA, B B Ng who are keyman at SINGAPORE do the aggresive work at CHINA, so Now you can received 25% is Moct CHINA investor money. SWISS MUTUAL FUND1948 founder is ALBERT LEE and AMIR HASSAN, now under legal sue by Goverment Malaysia. For New Investor please dont Invest at SWISSCASH. old investor money is LOCK cannot cash out,so it depend SWISSCASH management when to CHEATHING investor money ? anytimes ? YOU investor do Nothing ? Please take much photo with WHO are represent SWISSCASH maybe once day it can be useful for report to FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION at EMBASSY United State(USA) every country.
Hi Michael,
I not think so SC own by Malaysian. Now SC is gone worldwide and going like hot cake. Whoever eat the cake they now the taste, but some of you just looking at the cake don’t know the value and taste of the cake. As you know Malaysia is not free country they need licence to do any type of busines. But in other part of world not required this. Even to say simple to collect scrap or rubbis you need have licence from the government. So the action taken by Security Comm is not logic, This is affect malaysian investor only not other countries. I was MLM director and i know the rules and regulation in Malaysia. Look like you guys pay for your internet but cannot access fully. If you think want to block so not need to have internet at all. Why in Singapore, Indonesia, Thailand and other countries they didn’t block SC?
charlie, Friendly talk to you. swisscash practice pay A money, stop B money. so people who are Not received money will complaint To POLICE with proof and evidence,so due to internal investigate this is cheathing money program. today No body at Singapore ,Indonesia, Thailand No Body go to report maybe the Investor stupid at Legal Side.seperti siapa makan cili dia tahu pedas.
that’s not true. every investment business in the US for example requires a business license. A supplier would not supply anyone without a business license even on the internet.
For Swisscash Ignorer
Hello Guys, I’m also SC Investor and have been paid since I join Swiscash, it is not SCAM or whatever you said, but if you don’t like SC you can join with me as a founder in your country for new business called Sunshine Empire, we have fix address and have real project WIFI city in Taiwan called EMCOM,and our other strategic company Alliance has been known in your country especially in Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand, Korea, Hongkong because we have office in that country currently we are looking new investor to join for this profit sharing company or you can join as a member or merchant or become a profit sharing to build this project, returnable as SC program 1000% + 200% guaranteed. For more information visit us at
Where where?
http://www.sunshine-empire-indonesia.com our team at sunshine for more information about sunshine empire just click http://www.sunshine-empire.com
Ok we all have our opinion. Despite the investigation and various things mention it still doesnot make swisscash a scam or a ponzi. Beside, individuals have recieved their 25% since the start of the program. Hardly any complain from the individuals who joined. The formal system must respond to the appetite of the future minds and attitude of people and their desire fo risk. So What if 2010 comes and swisscash is still around….Who you still say its a scam…
OK Can I use ur ID to invest only $100/- plus $30/- for processing. Please reply
Register totally FREE :
http://www.swisscash.net/member/signup/signuppage.aspx
referer ID : IRMEH0000301
Hi Mehdi,
Where are you from? Mind to tell me about the plan?
Hi seng . Im from iran contact me for details : swissmutualcash@yahoo.com
I have a friend that joined sc about a month ago. He said that although sc is posting the epoints in the account, the money that he was trying to transfer to his bank is still not in the bank. I think, some investors are getting their profits only from other people buying their epoints and not from sc.
Hehe
Wise people invest wisely. I invested 100,000USD 5 months ago with swisscash, I have already got my principal back plus another 25K for the last month. Precisely wired to my account in 14-16 days from the day I initiated the withdraw. Scam or not, I gave it a shot, not that 25K is going to have any effect on the number of digits on my bank account, but at least I tried it. I love gambling, investing in high yield programs, and betting =)
Have you done any OMT lately? I don’t know what’s wrong with mine, I did them in 2 different banks to see which one would post faster, but neither shows any transfer from SC. I’m really getting worried that SC is having problems.
Hey Voxi,
You are extremely correct. Besides, I believed still any elements of investment does come with risks. Even as for now as a Msia Investors, I am a positive thinker as well an investor, that keep looking on the bright side still. Though I have gained back my principal 2yrs back ago.
Mind if I asked, are u still currently invested into SIP25? Where are you from Voxi?
Hope we can reach each other through email, (ethan_cumonin @ yahoo com) as I still have interest to invest further no doubt unhappy and negative things happened around here.
Please reply to my personal email, address as mentioned.
Best wishes,
Seng
I reside in Australia and anyone wanting to invest in Swisscash, pls email me via alanbgtan@hotmail.com for any questions or to buy epoints too. Cheers
With all the hoohah surrounding Malaysian Swisscash investors, I believed that Swisscash is the one taking advantage of the whole situation. Even though the Malaysian government is the one making the first step by blocking the internet access, Swisscash takes advantage of the situation by denying Malaysian investors with the heading MY into accessing their accounts. Talking of hypocrites, Swisscash is taking us all for fools and I believe they have no intention of returning Malaysian investors their money and it won’t be long before the whole world will be conned! If they are really sincere in their operations, then return OR let Malaysian investors access back their account via proxies. BEWARE to all those intending to invest in Swisscash. I was a believer in Swisscash before but not now esp. during the current state of affairs.
With all the hoohah surrounding Malaysian Swisscash investors, I only wish to warn everyone to watch out and not to be too enthusiastic about Swisscash. Reason given is as follows;
Even though the Malaysian government is the one initiating the block on Swisscash website, Swisscash is the one actually taking advantage of the situation by blocking all accounts with the MY prefix. Malaysian investors can’t even access their account in Swisscash using proxies. If Swisscash is a genuine investment entity, then they should return the Malaysian investors their monies instead of keeping them in the dark and hoping nobody does anything. This is worst off than daylight robbery! With all their technologies as they claim, they can’t even SMS or e-mail the Malaysian investors on the latest situation. Try e-mail to them and you will get no replies!
I believed Swisscash is playing dirty at this stage, so everyone no matter which country you are in, be extra cautious as this is a very good example on what Swisscash is capable of. The word TRUST and INTREGRITY does not exist in their vocabulary.
Spread the word on what is happening to the Malaysian investors so that others can be aware of what could happen in the future with Swisscash. The world could be conned by Swisscash in the end.
If you don’t like SC, there is another alternatives bussines you can join, become founder at your country for sunshine empire we have fix address in 5 country and have bussiness projct in Taiwan. For more information visit http://www.sunshine-empire-indonesia.com
im from iran
hi……………………………
Hi im Mehdi from Iran . if u r intrested in swisscash or have any question dont hesitate contacting me : swissmutualcash@yahoo.com
Everyone talking about “Malaysian goverment” said this and said that , think for a minute , why is that? why is Malaysian goverment so interested in SwissCash ?
IMO:
GoldQuest head quarters locates in KUALA LAMPUR and GQ has many affairs with Malaysian goverment , so it’s natural if they act like this to show SwissCash as a SCAM because they are loosing investors because of SwissCash.
Hi
I am interested to join Swiss Cash. Can someone from India contact me please. Ideal if that person is from Chennai. Please leave an offline message on f_hunny@yahoo.com or by email:farzana.zia@gmail.com
u can reach me at rama_krishnan_r@rediffmail.com
i can help u in all ways
I am from chennai And You can call me @ 9840494021
I guess I am the first investor that is a little worried about SC. I joined in last month and initiated my first money transfer 6/25. Until now, 7/19, I still don’t see a single penny credited to my bank account. Yes, SC gives you the 25% in your epoints, but if you cannot cash it in, or tranfer to you bank, what good does it do? I guess, I just have to wait and see…like one investor advise me.
@Elizabeth
don’t worry , depends on ur country/bank account it takes between 7 days to 30 days (i saw 40 days once lol)
Hey Razzle
I bet you haven’t invest a dime in s/c. You Mr/Ms know all.
I dont know why you guys think negative on swisscash? try to see the beauty of swisscash. The oppurnity that swisscash. I dont blame malaysian investor because most of the malaysian investor are negative thinking and most of the are born to be like that. Thats why malaysia are 20 years behind other country. Why singapore are more advance than malaysia? Think please. People all around the wold a having good pay and good icome from swisscash and our hand and leg are tight down by our gov and cannot do anything about it. how do u feel when you heard somebody success and you can’t do anything about it. Most of the malaysian citizen are brain wash by our gov. Anybody that can answer my question please email me, why only our gov high authority can invest offshore and why not us? why not all malaysian citizen allow to invest offshore?
very true bro…
i accept your fact…since im one of the sc investor, but now i cant login in Malaysia as well in other country. Any help from you chief???
Hi, any new of Swiss Cash SO far???
Hi, any new good news about SC???
SC is for REAL, I just received MONEY TODAY!!!!!
Hi Elizabeth
May I know which country are you from?I’m from New Zealand. I found when SC send the TT our local bank make delay sometimes it take 3 day going around our local bank before credited into my account.
Hi Charlie,
I’m from USA. I took me 15 working days (from the time SC approves the OMT) to finally see the money in my bank account. I have no idea where the delay is coming from.
What did you put for the SWIFT code? I am not sure since USA doesn’t use SWIFT code, correct? Let me know. Thanks for your help.
Hi Elizabeth,
My name is Seng.
Have read your supportive comments on SC.
Please reach me through my email address, as I still think positively to invest further.
Thanks, Best Wishers to you.
Hi Seng,
I do support SC, but right at this moment I am typing this, I can’t even open their website. Is anybody here having the same problem?
Hello Elizabeth
SC mirror website can be open at http://www.sip25.com
http://www.swisscash.net due to floaded traffic the quota is decreasing need refreshing until not so many traffic. you can see this high traffic statistic at http://www.alexa.com
Hello Elizabeth
SC mirror website can be open at http://www.sip25.com
http://www.swisscash.net due to floaded traffic the quota is decreasing need refreshing until not so many traffic. you can see this high traffic statistic at http://www.alexa.com
Hello new investor come to be part of our team click http://www.swisscash.net/idnyo2100301 or for more information about SC in our team at http://www.swisscash-id.com
Seng,
Send me your email address and we’ll talk more. I’ll help you anyway I can and answer all your questions. Need to know your location. I’m here in USA. So far…so good!
im still waiting for my money…anyone could help???
Can somebody out of Malaysia help me log in Swiss Cash?
E mail me pj2sb@yahoo.com
Hassain,
How are you? No offended here, i wish to remind you that you are making a big mistake and risk to your SC account. At this high risk moment, please do not leak your email address out unless you know them well. My personal advice to you due nowadays a lot of scam bugs everywhere. Your message here is at very high risk, because you exposed yourself by asking “stranger” from out of no where helping you to log in. And your “my” trading no. and password will be leaked out.
Please be careful, I am just kind to remind you.
Please be patient, Oct 1st is no far from now. Bank negara won’t be so cruel watching all malaysia investors suffered. Sure, BN will ask to open-back, at that time you can withdraw quickly by yourself.
Best regards.
no way to login from outside of Malaysia,forget abt it.We have tried from many countries but can’t login.How can you login if SC itself banned the server for Malaysian trading id’s
to all those sick and geolous people, ur silly and fake comments cost to u to lose the chance of investing in malasya, am from lebanon middle east, and money is comming easily with no problems, its true that only big paiments are transferred, but the most important is that its real, am getting my 25% profit and the other (SAP-SFP-SRP) just as the company stated, so shut ur stupid mouths and start looking for a way to improve the sallaries of ur people instead of ur bad comments!!!
To Mohamad Bajouk Moussa,
You sick ……can’t even spell correctly, just don’t try to correct others. I bet you didn’t even invest a dime! Big talker!
Lebanon friend just you start received money, dont TALK BIG, I believe very soon you will enjoy ZERO benefit within few month. what you TALK ,I Talk before,your term will coming,dont baking Now,Baking when you cannot received money. i am the first person will FUCK YOU. now please enjoy your benefit. will trap you very soon. Remember SWISSCASH management always give excuses to how to LOCK investor money, you will enjoy money how to Lock, Play Dirty by swisscash Very soon.
sorry calvin,I understand that you really mad with swisscash.However,it’s your risk (no risk no gain).If you are afraid of losing money,don’t invest!!!!I know that the first time you invest to swisscash you hope that you can multiply your money very fast,but when the trouble comes all dirty words come out from your mouth.I am just wondering if SC web exist again,are you willing just received the money that you invest and give the rest profit to your upline or somebody else?I don’t think so….. because you are chicken!!!!
Hi,
i am from Singapore. My Father invested a month ago and recived the cash two days ago. I have also just started to invest….i suppose important thing to note is to not be greedy.
Is anybody here having problems with SC website right at this moment. I won’t even display.
Is anybody here having problems with SC website right at this moment. It won’t even display.
Hi Elizabeth,
I’m having the same trouble with SC’s website. This is not a good omen. I’d advise caution…
Hello Patricio
SC mirror website can be open at http://www.sip25.com
http://www.swisscash.net due to floaded traffic the quota is decreasing need refreshing until not so many traffic. you can see this high traffic statistic at http://www.alexa.com
Hello new investor come to be part of our team click http://www.swisscash.net/idnyo2100301 or for more information about SC in our team at http://www.swisscash-id.com
I also damn worried. Just invested $5k last month
No worries- we all investors are going to be fine. Please try to think positive- it’s better that way than being negative and end up there’s nothing wrong. Then you waste your time thinking that way. Just be positive and be happy! Just live your life to the fullest
HEY JASON
WHY R U WORRIED
Hey investors, no need to worry, s/c is here for the long haul. Its not like those hyip. Have faith and invest.
Hello Carlton, I am Harland from Sabah, Malaysia. I had invested in swisscash since 30-12-2006 and since 11-06-2007 I am unable to go to any swisscash website until now. Could you teach me how and is the money that i invested still save /there? This is my
e-mail:
chefland2001@yahoo.com
Pls., pls., pls., reply and to any body that knows about this, pls. reply.
Thanks.
Well, everything right now is back to normal. SC’s website is alive and kicking again. You are right Carlton, Have more faith. This is for the long haul. We’ll enjoy the ride for as long as it takes!
Hi Everybody, i have invested USD2000 in April 2007 and just 2 times i received my profit. After that i cant login. Anyway im from Malaysia.
If anyone out there could help me pls email at buvanes.karupiah@bhpetrol.com.my
Hi all Swisscash investors,
Since the Malaysian Government has blocked the Swisscash IP Add, why cant the Swisscash Mgmt get our IP Add or Trading account replaced??? Now with the present Trading account is useless in Malaysia….atleast we get the Singapore counterpart to operate for us
I hope our money is still in our account and for other new investors to believe in future.
Anyone can help in my comment??? pls email to:
buvanes.karupiah@bhpetrol.com.my
Hi,
I’m from Penang, I believed by now Swisscash has already played us out. E-mails sent to them is basically all unreplied. It is Swisscash that is blocking out all MY accounts. I have tried from various countries to access my account without success. We have to wait and see on the October outcome. In the meantime we have to create awareness on what Swisscash is doing to all Malaysian investors via the web. AND hope for the best….
Mike,
So, you are Penang investor. Who is your upline in Penang Island, and how long & how much you have invested in SC?
I have invested 2years ago, have gained too.
Hi San,
Just invested in Swisscash in March ’07, then 1 month later got lock-in to ACF scheme. Yeah, never got any returns! Except just once when 1 investor sign up under me in April ’07.
Before I could gain, the whole scheme in Malaysia went haywire with the Securities Commission blocking the websites followed by Swisscash denying MY accounts from being accessed.
My upline is from K.L. I am really going through a frustrating journey.
Hey Ant
explain how’s that
possible. email me @cright38@yahoo.com
Thanks
you also one the person must trap by police,due to cheathing public money used swisscash be a tool.
Hey Guys and Gals,
take a look @ this and stop fretting;
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.swisscash.net
This show you how many people visit the site yesterday.
Hey Elizabeth
where in the usa r u? I am in florida. email me @
cright38@yahoo.com
Folks,
I looked at the stats for the SC website… 22,000 visits is NOT supposed to crash a site of this magnitude. Afterall, it was below the highest maximum attained. So what is the real deal here? Does anyone know?
Hey Patricio
I am in the usa and for 3 months now I have been able to access s/c website everyday. My only problem is that I may not be able to log on to my a/c everytime especially on some saturdays and sundays.
Sometimes your ip address is block for some reasons so you can plug your moden out for 5 hrs. and it will reset.
you can also find free proxy server and try and change your ip address.
What I have is a wireless card, so if I have a problem with my cable modem I used my wireless card and I am always able to log on.
You can email me if you need further help @ cright38@yahoo.com.
hi
I’m ali ghamary from iraq .we can not open page http://www.sip25.com ,www.swisscash.net , secured sip25.com/web/login.aspx and secured.swisscash.net/web/login.aspx for login into swisscash tel me what open page please.
Hi ali . Im Mehdi from Iran . this usually happens when the website is updating .itll be ok soon
My email : swissmutualcash@yahoo.com
WHERE R U FROM FITZROY AND WHAT EXACTLY U WANT TO KNOW?
EMAIL ME @ CRIGHT38@YAHOO.COM
Hey Guys & Gals
The following are my upline information. You can call him or e-mail him anytime. His transaction takes 3 days max. If you have a Citi Bank a/c, then its 2 days max.
Mr Tan W B
SwissCashSG Group
http://swisscashsg.blogspot.com
email: SwissCashSG@yahoo.com
Tel: (+65) 64008826
If you log on to his blog, please do not use Paypal as Paypal has to send a check and he has to wait until the check clear.
Carlton.
Hi Carlton,
Thanks for infos that provided here. Sadly, before I pursue my questions further, may I ask whether did you lately contact your Mr Tan W B (your upline)?
Unfortunate things was, the contact number that you given is not contactable. Besides, my questions are
Did you noticed that the http://swisscashsg.blogspot.com , the last update was June 23rd 2007, which was one month ago without any further updates until today. In fact, I submitted my inquiries which never entertained or answered.
May I ask a favor from you, can you provide his email address here so we can hear from him with confident and to invest under you.
Did MR TAN W B aware about the below message from S’pore govt? It read as:
“The Monetary Authority of Singapore (MAS) has confirmed that Swiss Cash or Swiss Mutual Fund is included in the MAS’ Investor Alert List (IAL). This is a list of companies or individuals that may be conducting activities not regulated by the MAS”.
The list can be found at
http://www.moneysense.gov.sg/check_our_list/Consumer_Portal_IAL.html
Hi Carlton,
How are you doing there?
Wonder why no response from you?
How was your personal verification pertaining to the “Lapsed” or “Outdated” blog i.e.
http://swisscashsg.blogspot.com
email: SwissCashSG@yahoo.com
Tel: (+65) 64008826
——–Mind to tell me who is in-charge here? I have contacted the office number as mentioned, it has been disconnected and seems nobody is operating this blog ever since one month ago————–
Thanks!
San
I reply to your mail 3 times but I don’t see my comment here as I reply from my email website and not here.
My upline name is Tan WD and his cell # is (656)400-8826. Bus (659)450-3557
His email is swisscashsg@yahoo.com
You can email me @ cright38@yahoo.com
Carlton
Hi all Malaysians,
After goin thru the meeting with regional managers.Swisscash has considered to allow existing Malaysian trading ids to access and withdraw money.But they’ll mention certain countries where you will be able to login.so,don worry.ACF shares will be relased as agreed too…take care all..and please dun say bad things about SC..they are genuine till now..
Hi David,
How accurate & reliable is this information? If it is true, then this will be the best news for a really long time….at least Swisscash have to e-mail or sms us to keep us level headed. SC has all our e-mails & mobile phone contacts and they should keep us all well informed. Thanks anyway for the info…cheers.
Hi Mike, and David
Mike, I carried the same doubts like you too. Even “My” trading is not sustainable for log-in but due SC has those high technology systems, can’t they send an email to all investors about current situation? I don’t see any difficulties at all for them to send email, while previously when nothing went wrong, they can notified so well each time, even withdrawal made or interest paid.
Hi David,
How are u? Where are you from David?
Understand about your kind feedback concerning the investors sentiment here, and courages given by you to Malaysia investors. However, how reliable their info is? where I am also concerned much about it.
Besides, as mentioned by your good end pertaining to “regional managers” meeting, how did you get to know about their outcome of meeting? As a Regional Managers, do you think they should stand out and not mind to advice public by posting their comments here?
Hope to have your favorite feed back then.
Cheers, Brother David.
Best of Luck!
consider…if you invest,i will invest too ,and then all the people of the world will invest in sc !!!
oh …sorry ! sorry ! just swiss cash leaders
will work and get food for 7,000,000,000 rich peaple!
consider when you are hungry…oh, god what to do ?
no mind guys …cas you have 10,000$ to eat !
Can someone who has done the OMT confirm if the exchange rate used by Swisscash is fair and reasonable – similar to that used in the Currency Convertor in http://www.swisscash.net webpage, located at bottom right corner?
Thanks in advance
Hi Mike/San
Guys,SC meeting held in Hong Kong and Malaysia recently ,and i’m aware of this.Since myself attended also.We can only bring out the issues facing by fellow Malaysians.SC decided to payout their ACF share and interest by allowing their trading id’s to be accessed but in different countries since Malaysian Government banned their proxy not allowing swisscash.Malaysians still receiving SMS alert on their mobile.WE ourself witnessed this when we are in Malaysia.Its all auto reply in the Mail alert when a transaction carried out in your account id.If no transsaction,you guys won receice anything in your mails.Cheers..god bless you
Hi David,
Good to hear this piece of news. Hopefully, it will keep on coming, e-mail me at mikeloo7@yahoo.com as soon as we can access our MY account, ok? How about using proxies to access in the future?
Thanks…..
hi david
happy to get such a news.
do u have any clue when that will take place?
all MY investors are waiting for that ?
is it true ?
Please strictly follow the currency convertor exchange rate identified and fixed by SC.If you get lower rate its fine,cause it might be internal transfer.If its the same as currency convetor its also fine.But dun charge more than what stated in currency convertor as in SC webpage.If found not abeying your SC account will be terminated.
My Director and ourself is charging some small amount of fees if the cash flow is from other countries to ours to buy points.This is allowed by SC since the bank will impose charges and slice some money for using them as transaction center…kay guys,drop by for any info.I am also a Director for another company.I am earning nearly USD50k every month from SC.We want everyone who has invested to enjoy the fruit…GBU.. bye..
David .
Thanx for the wonderful piece of news.Pls do keep us Malaysian investors informed about this…
Hi David,
Hence you gave great sounds on your monthly income, I would like to invest further in overseas.
Mind to tell me where you from? I liked you be my trading referral as I will be flying to HK or Singapore this coming Sept, for saving accounts opening purpose.
I liked to reach you soon please provide me your email address, as I would like you to create ID & PW on my behalf if my trip schedule changed from time to time.
Also, we communicate through email for sake of Wire Transfer of fund to your personal saving account.
Please reply soon, as well please be kind to send me a scanned copy of your latest SC statement (you may blocked the amount you invested).
Thanks, looking forward to hear from you.
Hi San,
Good to hear and d reply,you may mail me to swisscash-sg@yahoo.com.sg, I am from Singapore
Rgds,Cheers,
bro San,
This is my email swisscash_sg@yahoo.com
Hi David good morning to you, at least after reading
whououat u have commended about your meetings in Gentings
is quite positive. Now my question to you is time is
approaching soon what is the outcome if my government
don’t open the website, is swisscash going to have
alternatives plan.Please response asap. Thank you very much.
Mail me bro San,
I will send my trading id and details.
Thx and rgds.
You do not need scanned documents. All you need is trading id and can find out name of referral.
Inevitably, I notice that in this blog/forum, there are many people who buys and sells epoints in here. I suggest prospective buyers/sellers might as well indicate their country of residence and their email address to facilitate this transaction.
To buyers, I advise buy small amount (eg USD$500) to begin with. To sellers, I advise uphold honesty so that Swisscash wld not have bad publicity. Dissatisfied buyers or sellers shld voice their grouses here with evidence of their misconduct (eg scanned statements). It wld be good if there is a rating chart like eBay to weed out bad or dodgy buyers/sellers.
I’m from Bali Indonesia. If you on vacation to Bali just call me to become real investor… there is so many opportunity in Bali, invest for a villa, land, hotel or invest in Swisscash
This month I have about more than US$ 10,000 new Swisscash investment in my downline but we still need more new investor, quick you can be one of them. Visit my website you also can buzz me in yahoo “allianceindonesia” so what you waiting for…
Hi Seng,
How are you? I didn’t hear anything back from you. In any case, let me know if you still need some of your questions answered. SC investors here are very much willing to help you. Right guys/gals?
hey u got the money from swisss if not contact to sc, coz i got
Hi SC investors,
The telegraphic transfer takes about 7 to 12 days.It also depends which country the money will be send
God Bless,rgds
Hi David,
The first TT I had took 20 days, the 2nd one, still counting. I’m here in USA. Is it suppose to take that long? Just curious because your message says only about 7 to 12 days.
Thanks.
You know Swiss Cash is real HOT issue all time. The reason is they pay you 25 per cent per month. That is real lot MONEY ! !
I am glad to join SwissCash last May. Yes, I got paid every month since May. I did skeptical in Swiss Cash for 5 months until my friend emailed me the proof. I can’t beleive that!
I have some friends think SwissCash is scam. I asked them how they know that SwissCash is scam. There is different reasons, sound GOOD to be true, they said they read scams in internet. Really They said reading scam from internet making me laughing ! ! I know they just made up without investing one Penny ! ! Give me a big break ! !
You know many many many people spend lot lot money in lottery and casinos. They rarely make lot money, just lucky to win a nice SMALL pile money, not million dollars (FEW) I told people not to hurt to test unknown water to invest the smallest money,$100 and see the money growing ! !
Also If people say SwissCash is scam, Why not the government in all world shut SwissCash down at once !
I bet you Swiss Cash has over 1 million investors,still counting everyday. Everyone get paid everyday.
You know stock market,business are not QUARANTEED to make money every month. Some are scusseful to make money, Some are failed.
Do you trust US government? I do not trust it at all ! ! The US governemt is really big JOKE ! ! US government does not pay people enough money as well as not help people ! !
So join SwissCash to make your life better… Let SwissCash rocks ! ! ! !
can i have Your email Address . Are you doing any other mlm / Network marketing
Dave from USA,
Can you give me your email address? I have few questions I need to ask you. For now, email me at l_milagring@yahoo.com.
Thanks.
Are you eople doing any other mlm or network marketing Oppurtunity . I dont want to take Swisscash full time .its a bit risky . If u do have any offers please email to silas_in2006@yahoo.com
THIS IS AN ADVISE TO ALL US INVESTORS
Please be very careful in dealing with this so call Christine Cooper Swisscash Trading Id # uschr3332201 an email address croper27@yahoo.com. This so call Christine is the same person known as Lynda with email address lydngyen01@yahoo.com Their telephone # is +62 21 98370711 and they are from Indonesia.
I have facts to prove that they are Scammers and you will be robbed via PayPal.
US INVESTORS, PLEASE BE CAREFUL WHEN SELLING OR BUYING EPOINTS.
FOR FACTS RELATING TO THIS MATTER KINDLY CONTACT ME @ CRIGHT38@YAHOO.COM AND I WILL GLADLY SEND YOU ALL THE RELEVANT INFO.
This is totally a scam. I know for SURE. I lost about $1200. I bought an airline gift certificate from +62 21 98370711 and the person is so called Joni Aritonang and Sally Norris. The gift cert is a fraud that they sold to me was bought by a stolen credit card.
Can you contact me about these scandalous airline tickets. I think I may have gotten ripped off too
With 1)US$ depreciating against many local currency, 2)US & worlwide markets roller-coasting, 3)China threatening to dump their US$1.33trillion reserves in bonds into the market and 4)many European (Switzerland, France and several countries) countries are not holding on US$, these may be the catalyst for US$ to fall even more and erto US$ may become ‘junk-money’. SC should look at holding it in Euros or in GB Pound.
I have no news from swiss cash or my upline till now. I have communicated with my malaysia upline and they also lost hope of swiss cash. Most Malaysians so sad and frustrated with the money they lost and I have tried to access online in singapore and Thailand, it is truely blocked. What mentioned is ‘ACCOUNT ERRORS’, I have invested usd500 and money has gone just like a wind. It is not a lot of money but it is a month salary for me.
Dear all,
All “my” account from Malaysia totally blocked.After Malaysia,Indonesia again and singapore.Swisscash office is not from Rp.Dominica. ….Try check…!!!!
..TARAGONA FRANC.
Can find out web.http://www.sip25.com from swisscash news update..??????? , how about this 1 October….??!!xxxxxxx/
Who is suppose to be blamed…Swisscash or Malaysian Govt? I would definitely say its Malaysia Govt have made the mistake. They should have given or alert us atleast more than a month or two, so that we will have time for the maturity to withdraw our money. I suspect somebody has made the money by given a short notice in media on 04/06/07 saying that all illegal websites would be Blocked on 11/06/07, of all the days only one week??? and there is where all Malaysian investor money were stucked. Cruel isn’t it??? I have also invested USD2000 in April’07.
Are you eople doing any other mlm or network marketing Oppurtunity . I dont want to take Swisscash full time .its a bit risky . If u do have any offers please email to silas_in2006@yahoo.com
i am promoting http://www.sevenrings.net
To All SC Investors,
I don’t know how many of you received an email from what it looks like from SC saying that they are using CITIBANK now for all money transfers etc. etc. BEWARE! It is very fishy, when you click the link they have on the email, it brings you to a SC website (look alike) and from there you have to put your password, tap and birthdate. I really think is not from SC. Caution everyone!!!!
Hello… I’m from Iran and I’m new here…. is it true that malaysian investors has been blocked reaching their accounts not due to government’s legislations but the company itself has blocked theirs from getting money more?maybe after this company will block accessing accounts from usa or iran or china ….tnx
Taha:
i am from Iran too, and living in US. u need to do a bit more research into this before u waste ur time or money on it. i did my research. read the web site in and out. read the blogs too. google it. it is fony. big problem i have is that if SC is such a big money making machine, how come they dont tell u where they have invested their money: when do the board of directors meet, where is the annual reports? why no one answer the phone. the phone and address is phony. so it is a big scam, and it operates like Amway type mentality. u put real dollar into this account, and they give u virtual eDollar. u cannot take it out, but u can ask ur freind mohammad or ali or hasan, to give u real Dollar, so u transfer ur virtual money in ur account to Mohammad or ali… so u see?? (it is another way of cheating ur friend some times not knowingly and naively) they give u 25% on ePoints (=virtual money) and u can say that after a month u have 25% more virtual money, but in actuality, u cannot take the hard cash out of SC, u got to find another Naive person and sell them the idea and they give u money, so they get $virtual money, and… and the story goes on…. till one day (sooner than later) “A” smart government wakes up and sees that it is illegal and SC is just a virtual mutual fund, and shut its operation down. I am wondering why US government has not got involved in it yet. but beleive me, one day govenrment of Iran will shut it down too. u might make some money out of it, but it is like a lottery. to me it is not clean money that u work for it and enjoy it. u will not enjoy the money u make out of it. Be Aware! and stay Away!
Kayhan,
I too had to go through your analysis, about Swiss Cash being a scam, except that I actually put my money into the company first. It kept me awake with worry for many nights after I invested. When I requested for Swiss Cash to wire-transfer my money, they told me that it was approved, then nothing happened: 3 days…6 days…9 days…12 days… I felt stupid. Everything else worked up to that point, except for the last step, when I should get my money.
Fourteen days later, the US $15,000 showed up in my bank account just as I requested. I learned some valuable lessons.
1. Late is better than never. “Never” invalidates the program “Late” gives weaklings cause to complain;
2. Some of the things that sound “too good to be true” actually are true, but the negative, pessimistic people will never experience them;
3. I must be careful of tricksters and deceivers, but should never allow them to shut me away from all possibilities of a bright future. The people who quickly label all fast money-making businesses as “Get rich quick schemes” — they don’t even get rich slow…their scheme is to remain poor, suspicious and afraid for the rest of their lives.
Kayhan, I hope that this does not describe you.
Taha,
I think you have to do your own research just like what Kayhan said. But there is one thing I beg to disagree. I can actually transfer the epoints to my bank account. I’ve done this two times already. My cousin did it two times too. (Because we were in it 2 months so far)It takes a while to received the money though, but we did received it.If you want proof, contact me and I will email you a copy of the transfer receipt.
tnx Keyhan,Elizabeth,Alavanzo for your comments … but I’ve not just got the answer to my question …. I asked is it true that company has blocked malaysian investors accessing their accounts ? (I read many times in several websites that trading ID’s beginin’ with Ma…. can’t access to their own pages,I’m affraid maybe this could happen to the members of other countries when capacity is fulled and upliners reach to the point that is not profitable for company to pay large amount of cash to them …. regards
Taha, im truely agree with you…
Since Malaysian Govt blocked the MY Trading account it doestn’t mean that Swisscash can’t get an alternative???? at least the frustrated investors can access in neighbouring country like in Singopore. It all just that Swisscash want to do it or not….
All Malaysian Investors….do ask yourself, is it so difficult for Swisscash to get our Blocked IP address changed??? Some are asked to wait until October…yeah in two months??? lets wait and see which is the next country to be Blocked.
Hi All
Can you see any swisscash websites? sip25.com or swissmutualfund.biz?
I get “Server not found” error, when i try to visit them.:-(
thanks
i too from nz cannot open the website?
even i cant open . I thing they had closed the operation
I think it is DNS problem on the swisscash server, maybe its server crashed!
Hurricane churns up the Caribbean
Haiti and the Dominican Republic are braced for potential flooding as Hurricane Dean passes to the south after gathering force in the Caribbean.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6952580.stm
It seems the problem is because of hurricane . I hope every thing be ok again soon .
Thanks dear Mehdi
I found this news on google, but can’t read the laungage. I attach the
link and ask someone who can to translate same
http://sc-news. blogspot. com/
It says : Swishcash website cannot be accessed because Domenica has been affected by the catastrophic hurricane. Read its full news at http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070818/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/tropical_weather
May Swisscash continue its success
Dear Sc Investors
The connection to SC websites is not possible because of “Hurricane Dean churns through Caribbean”, all problems will be fixed till tuesday.
Good luck
Currently i’m a SC investor. The last time i logged intomy account was 4 mths ago. But last 5 days, i tried loggin in but failed. Maybe i’ve entered my password wrongly, maybe not. But 1 thing for sure is that i’ve clicked on the forgot password button but untill now i’v eyet received any sms nor email about the new password. I’ve tried calling the no +1 212 3865670 but to my suprise, the no is not in service. Does any1 know how can i contact the office when all the other means of contacting them is of no response? I’ve even tried e-mailing them since the last 4 days but to no avail.
PLS HELP!!!!
Does any1 know the REAL office number for SC?????
I need to contact them ASAP. Help!
maybe 999 emergency call. the right person is BB NG or Serene Chea Bee Choon. +6594878070.
Webiste access is not country dependent, itis server dependent,
and server may not be in the country
I swisscash investment in China, in August 18, 2007 morning around 10:00, on the website swisscash not opened to the reasons that we do not understand, there is no one to know the reasons? Looking forward to tell ~!
Dear Friends!
I heard that websites will be accessable on august 25th with new look and new name, our leader in malaysia siad these.
Cheers
-m
Dear Remo,
Swisscash website is under maintenance.
Please enter scmutualfund or sip25 under google search and you will find that the following comments “the website is under maintenance, please come back later. Swisscash would like to apologise for any inconvenienced caused.”
selfmasteryint@pacific.net.sg
I got the live search page. Same result for scmutualfund and swisscash.net. May be sc has closed shop. Sob sob sob …….
Use google search engine and not your internet browser website address.
Go to http://www.google.com first and then enter the key word I mention into the search column
hi, all my dear friend, when i found out that swisscash website has been closed i tought i have mised all of my money! it seems at first glance they run awy.but when i heard that storm has happend in central america i find out i have though like as two day old baby
but i’m happy! coz it will launche soon .
Hello all
Swisscash down is nothing to do with Hurricane or what ever in dominican..its just need time for refreshing for new look. They obliged to make it down for there is no new input for their database… You will see in this week
Wish SC has more corporate responsibility instead of keeping quiet. All corporations have a PR which inform the investors or public about their intention. Their protocol needs to be changed instead of being arrogant.
SC has no corporate responsibility cos they are illegal and thats why they ignoring all our comments. We all investors are being treated as stupid. We are wasting our time. They are not genuine.
SC has no corporate responsibility cos they are illegal and thats why they ignoring all our comments. We all investors are being treated like a stupid. We are wasting our time. They are not genuine.
It seemed that “SC Website currently being posted to new server. Give them some timeto stabilize then will be ok. Last major maintenance lasted 3 days, will info you all” – according to http://swisscash-singapore.blogspot.com/
Hurricane Dean has paased Dominican Republic last Saturday (US time) and server should be up and running by now. Refer to http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070820/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/tropical_weather
Lasltly, we are all on this SC boat so positive or constructive comments should be encouraged. May be ilegal but can be professional. And high time for server to be upgraded.
Dear All,
If we are a real Investor.we must undstand about the risk…HIGH GAIN..HIGH RISK..so it’s better if we waiting and be ready wht ever gona be happend..
Dear El Hello!
First of all very grateful for your reply! I have the following concerns : 1, the imminent closure of swisscash site before, why should not the website of advance notice? 2, the server swisscash Is not the reserve? 3, swisscash website was shut down, why not to invest in people by e-mail mobile phone short message or notice? swisscash from the website was shut down to the present moment has not notified! No. 4, why not swisscash announced for the closure of the server? To this end, China’s investment in a lot of worries, swisscash 60 of credibility, does it not afraid of the Chinese investors to the credibility of the middle swisscash suspicious? looking forward to your reply! very grateful ~!
Dear Remo,
We do not know exactly what happen. If swisscash has a scheduled website maintenance, they can announce before hand, however if something haapens without their preparedness, they cannot give advanced notice.
This is my guess. Last thursday, I had problems logging into 4 swisscash websites. I had a feeling swisscash websites were being hacked. On sunday morning, I was able to log in. Later part of he afternoon, the whole 4 swisscash websites were down. It is anybody guess. However, when we do a google search, the information that the website is under maintenance is there. Please inform your investors to look for that. Swisscash knew that we will use the search engine to look for them, that is why there is some news there. If you look at the size,it is only 1k of information. Information to help us not to panic. If you are Swisscash manager, and your website is suddenly down, and you are aware that investors are looking for you, what can you do? Well, why not use the search engine to give them information, after we all use the search engine to find for information, otherwise why would google be worth so much?
Today I received an sms from a TOP SWISSCASH INVESTOR: Main server is down and Swisscash need a few days to get it going again.
This things do happen. How we interprete is quite individual. Whatever it is, do remain calm. Be peaceful. It is important to be peaceful.
Our peaceful energy contribute to the whole global peaceful energy, to world peace.
Do not be easily affected by anything. We can make it in life. We have the abilities to survive, in the most unimaginable condition. Humans have amazing ability to survive in any situation, and along the way, we discover the courage that was hidden inside us all along.
Best Regards
El.
hi ppl
i’ve been followin ur comments/forums for the past month and find the arguments preety interesting.
am from singapore, and a skeptic by nature. however, though i see proof of Swisscash being shown, i am yet to see evidence tat its a scam.
also, take into account if otherwise, tat its the same company/website/individual we are talkin abt. I speak for all should i say i’m even ready to throw in some serious cash to see and prove to all whom may be interested if it works or NOT….
lemme know if u wanna chat
suprasonixx@hotmail.com
Hi Rishii,
You can chat with me at robertkiyosakicashflow@hotmail.com
regards
El
MAINTENANCE REPORT
Dear investors,
This is to inform you that all the links of swiss cash will be under maintenance till 25th of August because of maintenance of the server after it has been affected by the last Hurricane that is sweeping the Caribbean and the Dominican Republic nowadays.
For more information please visit the following links:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6952580.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6950626.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/6952773.stm
Or search through google you will read that swiss cash is apologizing for any inconvenience caused:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=www.sip25.com
HI, TODAY IS 25TH AND I WAS TRYING TO LOGIN BUT COULD NOT. CAN YOU GIVE SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THIS.
hello
swisscash server is down . all member in all world can not open website http://www.sip25.com or http://www.swisscash.net or http://www.swissmutualfund.biz
all member must know about this matter that swisscash server have problem with their hardware ,
you must wait and their website come in 25august.
have a nice time ,,, swisscash is OK !
HEY GUYS AND GALS
SWISSCASH IS BACK, CHECK IT OUT @ http://www.swisscash25.net
U JUST CAN’T LOG INTO UR A/C UNTIL THE 25TH.
Dear people. Swisscash is/was run from Malaysia. It is a total scam. Most so called ‘investors’ will never see their money. Please scroll up and read the post dated 12 July 2007 regarding Mareva injunction
Hi Greg,
How are you doing?
It is best that you allow people to make up their own minds.
It is up to them whether they want to invest in Swisscash or not.
Every investment has risk. Recently the stock market crashed.
Did many people lose their money?
I have a friend, who no metter what others say about swisscash, she standby her decision to invest more in swisscash. She has a big apetite for risk.
We are all different and have different risk profile. Some people are happy with the 2 to 4% interest from their banks.
Some are not.
The important thing is that whatever happens to their investment, thay cannot blame anyone.
I do not agree that people with different views be asked to shut up, however if you simply say negative things about swisscash when many investors are getting their returns, your motive is being questioned.
The Mareja injunction did not prove that Swisscash was not giving investors their returns.
Nobody truly knows if Swisscash is truly investing in the investment vehicles they mentioned on the website, and nobody truly knows if they are not.
If they were to disappear, does it mean that they are a scam or does it mean that they are not able to hold their end of the bargain and taking the easy way out?
Invest only if you can take the risk. If you are not an investor yourself, eventhough you may have good intention, you are going to offend members of this forum with such strong critical views.
Regards
El.
Hi,
Strange as it may seem Malaysia is not the whole world. While it has a large percentage of subscribers to Swiss Cash, it does not control the rest of the world. SC is thriving in every other place. It is not SC’s fault that certain Datuks in Malaysia decided to feather their own nests, rather than do what they said. They have been caught and will be dealt with accordingly. However, SC had to take measures against Malaysia, but they are not permanent, and as it says in their site, they are watching the situation, and will adjust their stand accordingly.
Many in Malaysia are now worried, and of course the fact that SC is currently down, only adds fuel to their trustrations.
But if SC wasnt paying, dont you think that it would be all over the Net, in Forum groups, on Investor Web pages, and in Blogs. But its not, why? because everyone who decides to take a risk, is being paid, every month, every month, every month…
The Dictionary definition of the word Scam, means trick or fraud. I have done my extensive research over the last few months, and apart from people in Malaysia, and those that have forgotten their SC passwords, there is not one person, who having invested in SC has not been paid.
So let’s look at the Global situation here, I know people in Australia, the USA and the UK, and they are all being paid monthly by SC.
Will it last? who knows, in todays world, what is permanent? We live in a fast, ever-changing world. But for those folks that are prepared to take a risk, because they have a dream or goal, SC is as good as it gets.
So unless you have had personal involvement with SC, that you’ve invested and lost money, dont just comment about what you have read or heard from others. Make up your own mind, from YOUR experiences, then others will listen to you. Because as of now, just making comments where you have no personal knowledge, just makes you look very shallow and silly.
Colin
Obviously you don’t know how ponzi scheme works. There’s nothing that you write is new. Is that the best you can do to convince people sc is not a scam?
The “take a risk” bs doesn’t work anymore my friend.
If people lose trust in sc, you’ll lose your money and that’s your real problem.
Hey Greg,
Are you Swisscash Investor? If not, then do not bother to make stupid comment,
I have no problem with Swisscash since MAY.
I know SwissCash issue is so hot ! If you think Swiscash, You are wasting time to make comment negative ! ! ! !
GET LIFE ! ! ! !
Hi Greg,
Are you Malaysian? I wonder do you invested on Swisscash? Just shut you mouth and get lost my friend? You don’t swisscash and dont try give bad impression about swisscash.
Carlton,
How come it says on sc-news blogspot, that swisscash25.net is a dummy site? It also warn us to be careful?!
Hi Elizabeth,
Wait for further news if you are not sure.
Regards
El
hello dear el, do you give your reply from compani?
please forward to me. thanks
my email :musa_mahvar@yahoo.com
It is interesting to note that there are so many comments and queries from all walks of life and continents in regards to the SC topic. It would be good if somebody create a new blogspace instead of making this webpage longer and longer. Over to some good samaritan ..
Hi Dear Friends
I heard words of pessimistic persons who they are losers, I think.
you know, Improvment needs to risk
all of us heard about problem that it’s just happened.
be sure, I’ve invested for 5 months and SC has return all of my Money, and this month I’m going to get the my first real benefit,
be sure and be riskable, it’s an Investment, not a career.
I love SC , because it lets everybody to have a good earning, even persons who aren’t wealthy, However it approved only more than 10,000 USD Investments before. Now it is
from last 4 days im unable too visit swisscash.net.what is the reason,may i know pls.anyone know abt it.im also a swisscash investor.suddenly website not displayed.
now is a 50/50 chance…2 more days if sc not up, it will enter scam folder!
A interesting facet of this forum is to see how sensitive certain contributors are. Can it be that the people defending SC are the same ones promoting this Ponzi and cheating the suckers out of their money?
sc has not really enter the chn mkt and it’s chn bank gateway still has not gone live yet…possibility of collasping now still unlikely cos it has not sucked the chn mkt yet. how can it go burst so soon unless got internal issues…
i heard that i get 25% intrest if i invest money in swisscash.if u hav any idea please share with me.
thanks
Hi Sandeep,
You can email me at selfmasteryint@pacific.net.sg
or chat at robertkiyosakicashlow@hotmail.com and I will be happy to share more with you.
Regards
El.
The new web of swisscash is register at India. Can Malaysian ID login?
Hi Rogon,
Whether someone can log in or not will depend on swisscash computer program.
From what I know, currently, malaysian investors are not permitted to log into swisscash website from malaysia as the internet service provider has been instructed to block access from anybody in malaysia.
If you are a malaysian investor and you try to log in from outside malaysia, whether you can access or not will depend on the computer program that swisscash has designed with regards to certain policies they have undertaken as Swisscash no longer accepts investors from malaysia after discussions with the Malaysian authorities.
Regards
El.
Malaysian Trading start with “my” how about your India trading name?
what about their money??? that is so cruel if Swisscash freeze their investors money in Malaysia.
Swisscash must do something can makes malaysian investors happy and respect you more than before.
I am not sure what is the reason the money is frozen.
You will have to study the terms and conditions of your
investment and if you feel strongly, get a lawyer to
pursue your case.
swisscash.net is alive or not will be know latest by tommorrow or take it as scam and we may have to proceed for legal action.
Let us hope so it is not !
Since I am also a investor.
as far as i see there is no valid information on swiss cash, i signed up recently and have not benefited from any returns so am fretting like hell.
like the rest of you am prying that wen tomorrow comes we can assess our money, however i think those people are engaged in illegal activities why we cant hear nothing from them. i deeply regret signing-up.
if anybody can give me some update, email me at jamjamfancy23@hotmail.com, it would be greatly appreciated
A Jamaica
hello my friends
if a person can enjoy from hard time of life,
he/she form his/her personality.
dont worry about swiss cash, it will come back.
HI All,
This is prabhakar, I have invested 10 days ago and was waiting for the first month of returns. But for the last four days not able to introduce as the original site was not opening and many forums as questioning the loyalty of SC. I dono the real details of the company and their background but invested and waiting to see for the returns. It is always in MLM’s and in Pyramid Schemes that – First Come First Serve Basis. I will get back to you all and with the news after my first returns. It needs individual to have confidence only he/she reap the results on the investment he/she made. As one of the friends quoted above, it needs risk for some to get good sums. And you all can GBTM with any information or details further on this. My e-mail address is “willyoujoinme@yahoo.co.in” & “prabhakar_kvs@yahoo.co.in”
Cheers
PrabhakarKVS
Its 25th Aug today. Could someone write to this blogsite if they have found the swisscash site activated? Much appreciated.
ANY ONE FROM SG WITH THE OFFICIAL SITE, PLEASE UPDATE
Hello People,
The latest I heard from my upline is this, the website should be ready by 1st september.
Now I dont know if this is the truth or if this is something people say just to make people less anxious.
Your guess is as good as mine, but since there is a request asking for update, I can only share with you what I know, whether it is official or not.
Regards
El.
what happand the swisscash now plz tel me
i thought the new site is http://www.swisscash25.net
i went to the site and its working i just didn’t try to log on my account but i will try it now.
so any successful log in??
This is what I see, no idea what it says, as english is what I know Pada hari ini saya telah mengirim sms ke semua top leader saya untuk pemberitahuan tentang website sc untuk menghindari berbagai persepsi atau debat yang tidak ada gunanya. Maaf buat update terbaru, bahwa web sc kita belum ready. Meskipun tanggal 1-15 September 2007, adalah waktu yang diberikan, harapan ini masih ada. Menurut saya dan top leader investor seluruh dunia, bahwa sc ada untuk jangka waktu lama. Pemberitahuan via email akan dikirimkan begitu website sc siap.
Transaksi jual beli epoint baru bisa dilakukan kalau website swisscash sudah ada dan siap melayani kita kembali. Lakukan yang terbaik untuk anda dan keluarga anda, percayalah akan diri anda sendiri.
This is what I see, no idea what it says, as english is what I know Pada hari ini saya telah mengirim sms ke semua top leader saya untuk pemberitahuan tentang website sc untuk menghindari berbagai persepsi atau debat yang tidak ada gunanya. Maaf buat update terbaru, bahwa web sc kita belum ready. Meskipun tanggal 1-15 September 2007, adalah waktu yang diberikan, harapan ini masih ada. Menurut saya dan top leader investor seluruh dunia, bahwa sc ada untuk jangka waktu lama. Pemberitahuan via email akan dikirimkan begitu website sc siap.
Transaksi jual beli epoint baru bisa dilakukan kalau website swisscash sudah ada dan siap melayani kita kembali. Lakukan yang terbaik untuk anda dan keluarga anda, percayalah akan diri anda sendiri.
I am going to translate for you according to my understanding and there are more than one ways to translate using defferent choices of words. It says, “Today, I have sent sms to all my top leader for the purpose of informing re SC website to avoid/prevent all kinds of perception or debate which is useless. Sorry, new update (gramatically wrong)that SC website is not ready. Eventhough the date 1 to 15 septmber was given, hope is still present (gramatically incorrect). In my opinion and all top investors worldwide, SC is here to stay for a long time. Information through email will be issued the moment SC website is ready. Buying and selling of epoints can only be carried out when SC website is ready and available to service us. Do whatever is good for you and your family and believe in yourself.
Regards
El.
See no reason why the SC management must send SMS to the other leaders as the hierachy of this SC tree must be in the l000′s of level deep. Those at the near bottom would lose communication. In year of 2007, would be best highlighted in website. A message box would suffice. Wouldn’t it be more logical to broadcast in the website, whichever they nominate. SC must revamped their overall image. Whether SC is a scam or not, ponzi funds scams are very tech savvy. So comeon SC, investors in year 2007 need information fast and accurate or else you will lose out.
I agree with the gist of your post.
Swisscash has to balance the need of investors to know what is going on and swisscash’s need to withhold information due to security reason. (I wonder how giving information as to what is going on can be a security threat?)
The danger of only informing top leaders is that message may not be passed down or message may be passed down incorrectly.
This is the information age and we should have the technology to let investor know what is going on, as Michael said.
There truly is a need to revamp the current way of communicating with investors and not to treat investors like idiots.
That is right. Come on SC, you need to treat us investors with more respect and more maturity.
Right now, your services may be selling like hotcakes, but you cannot assume that another company might come in and offer something better.
Do not always assume that you are the only player in town and that your way is the only way.
If I were swisscash, I will be desperate to inform them as to what is going on, so as to further build the good relationship and trust I had develop with Swisscash investors, understanding that majority of investors are bound to be jittery and anxious when something as basic as a website is no longer present.
Let’s assume that the hurricane was the cause. How long is it to get another website up and running and to put up a sign “website under maintenance”. Today is the 7th day the website has been absent. If the cause was the tsunami, it would be entirely different as the whole internet was affected. But the hurricane was not the tsunami.
So Swisscash, if you are reading this blog, please give us investors more credit (pun not intended).
Regards
El.
Currently there is a similar swiss website at http://www.swisscash25.net
Nobody, including my upline is sure whether this is the official website of swisscash or not, or it this a cloned website design to capture password.
If this is swisscash offcial website, Swisscash is not very intelligent by not telling investors that this is now their official website.
Why do I say this?, because, If my official website is down, it is in my best interest to warn my investors which is my official website, and not keep quiet about it as my investors may log into the non offcial website.
Since there is no anouncement from swisscash so far, it is safe to think that this website is a clone website. I may be wrong.
On the other hand, if swisscash.net is a cloned website, I think this is very daring of the impersonator to put up a swisscash website and pretend that they are the offcial swisscash website. It will only pose a problem if swisscash has not ceased operations. If swisscash has ceased operations, it does not reeally matter.
In all probability, it is possible that swisscash25.net is swisscash next official website, although I cannot be 100% sure. Let’s assume that swisscash is still operating, if so, swisscash will be aware that there is a cloned swisscash website, and swisscash will advice investors not to log in to swisscash25.net. So far no warning from Swisscash. it could mean two things, swisscash25 is the next official website (swisscash has been known to change website before, from swisscash.biz to swisscash .net) or swisscash has ceased operations and cannot be bothered to warn its ex investors.
To warn investors is very simple. Swisscash has used sms and email before to communicate with investors. It is a matter of sending sms or email, especially if the situation is serious. There are software now available to send sms through the internet.
The swisscash25.net is registered by someone in bangalore, India. It could mean two things. The owner is someone in India, ot the owner registered this domain name under proxy and instruction by swisscash.
Anything is possible. My take is that swisscash25.net is the next swisscash official website, it is just not ready yet. Again I may be wrong.
Regards
El
Hi all-
I am very happy to share this news with you all… after being frustrated that I wasn’t able to access my SwissCash account for days so I have decided to gamble and took a risk by logging in my account on swisscash25.net… Very shocking! Yes, it is the official web site. I have no frigging idea why this turned to be the real site with those apparent-fake looking links on the front site such as no chinese language… it showed ?? instead…. True enough, I was supposed to be paid yesterday and there showed that I got 5,000 epoints plus 2,348 epoints that I left for daily interest…. SwissCash didn’t do any good job with communicating but I can ensure you all that it is the official site of SwissCash… if you don’t believe me, alright just don’t log in then! GO SWISSCASH! I AM VERY HAPPY IT IS BACKKK!
Chris,
I amhappy for you too!
El
Hi Folks,
Anybody who can get the same results as Chris by logging into http://www.swisscash25.net please let us know.
I tried, but was unable to go into my trading account.
Regards
El.
Hi Chris,
is this your first posting in this forum?
I tried to check if you have posted before? Have you?
The problem with the internet is that we do not know who the person behind the posting. We have to take their word for it.
I dont mean to be rude, just being cautious.
For all we know, the hackers may have planted their own people to post such a message so as to encourage investors to log into http://www.swisscash25.net
Personally speaking, my opinion is that http://www.swissscash25.net could be genuine. I may be wrong.
Whatever it is, proceed with caution.
If you have activated your TAB, hackers may know your password, but they still have to figure out your TAB to transfer any epoints.
Regards
El.
Only sensible comment made on TAP. The hacker may have the userid and password but without TAP, no money can be moved whether internally or externally at all. Very sensible!
Swisscash website has been down for 6 days, not just one website, all four.
http://www.sip25.com
http://www.swisscash.net
http://www.swissmutualfund.biz
http://www.scmutualfund.com
With the absence of swisscash website, many people are asking questions.
Some brought up the news that it has happen before (swisscash website was absent for one week before, so I was told)to argue that this absence is not permanent.
Swisscash has put a message when people googled for info that their website is down. If Swisscash has ceased operations, there is no need to put up this information.
The appearance of another swisscash website at swisscash25.net has confused investors, some afraid to log in as it could be a cloned website design to capture passwords.
During these moments, we all have our own views and the need to be certain becomes almost unbearable.
At this time, i am inclined to believe that Swisscash will be back, based on my hunches and my intuition, and remaining calm inspite of the fears and doubts of many people.
Be peaceful, have peace and spread peace. There is power in group energy. Send peace to everyone,send love to everone and to swisscash too.
Peace and Love
El.
Warning!
http://www.swisscash25.net is not real.
Dont Log in!!!!!!
please Enter The site and Log in in any Wrong ID and Password, to confuse Hacker.
Hi People,
I decided to log into http://www.swisscash25.net to create a new account using a fictitious name, using my own account as the referrer.
After entering the online form, here is the remarks, “Valid referrer trading ID is required or referrer trading ID is yet to be activated”
(meaning that it does not recognise my trading account as valid)
This could mean many things:
The database is not updated into the new website.
This website is a cloned website (very unlikely because if this website is a cloned website, I will know since it does not recognise my trading account. Hence putting up a cloned website with “join us menu” functioning in this way gives them away.
Regards
Hopefully By 25 Aug Till 15 Sep Swiss Cash Is Back
Official news from SC management says:
Swiss cash is going now undergoing major maintenance and switching of servers.
Swiss cash did not give prior notice to its investors as security reason is cited.
Swiss cash is undergoing now rebranding, new enhancement and security.
Swiss cash is upgrading to accomodate the growth of its business worldwide.
Swiss cash is not lacking in business as many countries are not fully tapped.
THIS IS THE OFFICIAL NEW FROM SWISSCASH
Swiss cash has been spending millions of dollars in ICT upgrading and security.
Swiss cash is not obligated under any transparency act and putting
Swiss cash in the same basket as other scam programs is totally unaccepted.
Swiss Cash has a vision and mission. What we see is only a tip of Iceberg. We just need to wait for a couple of days and hopefully by 25 Aug, until 15 the Web Site will be ok.
Hi Carlton,
Today is already 26th. I am trying since yesterday. How do you get the official news from swiss cash. When we will be able to login.
Carlton, can you point us where you get these ‘Official News from SC management’. What is the URL to get these so-called official news
http://www.swisscash25.net is really scam!
they rub our ID and PASS its not legal website and not related to swisscash!
If you go to google and do a search
“sip25.com” website is under maintenance………….
“sip25″ no listing
“scmutualfund” only listing of scmutual.com
“swisscash” only listing of swisscash.net
“swisscash.net” same
“scmutualfund.com” listing of swisscash.net
“swissmutualfund.biz” listing of swissmutualfund.biz
Dear El
I am Kishore from India. I invested a big amount even beyond my risk taking capacity. There are 3 people in my down line. I didnot take even a single profit and it is already due on 23rd. Kindly comment all the latest information u get. Thank u
Dear Kishore,
Sorry,no official news so far.
Only news being passed around that SC website is still under upgrading
and should be ready by 15th sept or earlier
Regards
sorry for u all, swisscash is the big liar. i,am swiss financial consultant from Indonesia. about server, just need to update the DNS, no need to wait so long. because i,m the technician of computer too. my money already gone. do not wait the website anymore, or u will go crazy.
i have a question ! i wanted to go to swisscah.net or sip25.com but no web site was found ! some one told me they are maintaining their web site !do you believe ?
they can NOT upload their web site to another server while they are updating their current server?
and also you’ve heard this web site before “sip25.com”
this web site was used in Iran
I’m a Computer Technician and Swiss Financial Consultant. I want to tell u all the truth, Swisscash Gone………. , http://www.swisscash25.net just the copied website. i can make the same like that, if u want to try my website http://www.rudycom.co.id, you will see the same with http://www.swisscash25.net. and i want to explain about server. server never need the long time to service, just need to upgrade to another server by 1 or 2 days only. and then give the details and database on then. if u said about dominican, you can see that all of website at dominica could be opened. No one top leader can call the team of swisscash. top leader just make us to not panic only. my money goneeeeeeee. chris is a liar.
I agree with you. Swisscash has closed shop!!!
I tried to login swisscash25.net and it did not work.
I tried to login swisscash25.net and it did not work!!!
my money was lose, fuck u swisscash
Today is 27th August already.
Anyone said that swisscash.net will open again then it seem a big sad to us.
I found a fake swisscash25.net who tried to hack swisscash.net investors user names and passwords. DO NOT login to such website!!!
Write with your head sensibly!! How can anyone hack by using fake swisscash25.net when swisscash.net is not even running at all?? Think about it!
swisscash management always play DIRTY and Treat Investor is BEGGAR. always change policy without customer permission and also hope everyday as BEGGAR to enjoy the benefit. this company foundation all secret, open market secret close market secret.Investor Quality it BEGGAR, for waiting swisscash management paid BEGGAR 25% benefit. all Investor at SWISSCASH as BEGGAR to wait NO Answer from SWISSCASH.
Is there anyone knows any update about Swisscash pls. let me know
Thank You…
I cut and paste this info from an SC team website:
It seem that all 4 sc website still down. No current news to say when it will be up and running. Since there is no updates from leaders and SC Admin and that we can’t sit still and wait and hope and speculate.
May I suggest the following:
Top leaders who have earned a considerable amount of money, to visit Swisscash Office at the Commonwealth of Dominica, to get the full details on the ongoing issue. This will help stabilise the anxiety of all fellow investors worldwide. Bear in mind that the money that these leaders made is from the efforts/investments from us down the line,(either thru OMTs or selling epoints to new investors). We are not asking our money back but the least you could do is check out the company that pays you the income monthly.
If Swisscash is a Scam, then we do not need to keep on hoping. Say goodbye to our investment and start life anew.
If Swisscash is really undergoing a major upgrading of their softwares and servers, then, we will happily (relief) wait for the day Swisscash is back on line. By the way, if its true, the leaders will tend to earn more money through SFP payout as more and more investors will flock in to invest in Swisscash as they know Swisscash is a truly Reliable Investment Firm.
Any LEADERS in this forum would like to take up?
Thank you for your efford and your anticipating in this matters
Nyoman
http://www.swisscash-id.com (a team group member of swisscash)
Sounds most sensible! Thats the least these leaders can do afterall we have done to contribute to your wealth. If only someone is willing to do the right thing. Over to you leaders! If this SC ‘scam’ is genuinely lost, then we will just move on. We took the risk, we bear it.
On another note, pls refer to this website http://www.pioneerprofund.com/ Notice how similar this site is to swisscash if you click on Join Us or FAQ or even Login
Hey Micheal
FROM THE LOOK OF THINGS, IT SEEMS NO ONE REALLY KNOWS ANYTHING, THEREFORE I REFUSE TO SAY ANYTHING BUT READ WHATS GOING ON IN BLOGS, FORUMS ETC. S/C SEEMS TO BE THIS INVISIBLE GHOST THAT NONE OF OUR SO CALL UPLINE/S KNOWS.
THIS IS THE LINK TO MY NEWS, WHICH IS REALLY NO NEWS.
http://sc-news.blogspot.com/
Be sincere swisscash within 30month always paid money,but always play dirty, paid A group stop B group,Paid C group,stop D group. treat investor BEGGAR and stupid. SWISS MUTUAL FUND 1948 dissolved since 12-Dec-2006. so No More Capital Guarantee.due malaysian swisscash BLOCK ,swisscash promoter always used MALAYSIA story to Trap stupid investor. YOU Face all money so you wont people died or down, your Big Excuses Investment got Risk.
Dear Swisscash Investors,
The deadline that people gave (August 25/26/27) has arrived but still no site.
Although tomorrow is still a possibility, I will no longer play on possibilities here, because there are few others that I cannot confirm for now.
Some say 1st September.
Others 15th.
What I will tell you is that : The Swisscash Websites domains are currently “LOCKED”. Not gone.
By definition, “When your domain is locked, you’ll be substantially protected from unauthorized third parties who might try to misdirect your name servers or transfer your domain without your permission.
You will also be unable to inadvertently make changes to your name servers”.
Hence, admins will lock domains when there is hacking activity in doing the above things.
As we all know, lately there has been numerous phishing and scam sites popping up everywhere, such as swisscash25.com, swisscash25.org, and swisscash25.info (please stay away from these).
Hackers can misdirect users to their fake sites to steal our usernames and passwords, and thus, in our case, our funds.
SwissCash has protected their domains by locking it.
So, I cannot say when we can breathe easy again, but this is all I can offer for now.
The websites are not gone, just ‘locked’.
So, its there.
Just not active.
HI .do you gain any information about the SC request?
my leader tell me that SC needs all information about our TA’s.
You people are so unbelievable! First time I heard about swisscash, I knew it was a SCAM! I’m so sad that many malaysians invested their money in swisscash! Wake up malaysians!
Hapuskan swisscash ,BB Ng ,serene cheah Bee choon membantu Swisscash menipu duit. Hapuskan SWISSCASH selama-lamanya. dari calvin 0135726166. kita sama-sama hapuskan swisscash di dunia ini.
Guys,
About a month ago I mentioned the point about the “worldwide” Marvea injunction being effected by the Malaysian securities commission against all activities of Swiss Cash. Did anyone check this out? Could it be that this has finally taken effect on ALL of Swiss Cash’s operations? I personally believe the Principals of Swiss Cash should do a better job of communicating! Afterall, they have ‘piles’ of good investors money sitting on… there is no excuse for the absolutely POOR communication. What are they hiding by not being forthright?
Haloo Investor Indonesia
Gw investor dari Indonesia. Groupku sanggup membiayai leader Indonesia untuk berangkat ke dominica atau dimanapun Kantor Pusat Swisscash untuk mencari informasi sebenar-benarnya apa yang terjadi dengan swisscash. Sekedar informasi dan kesanggupan group kami adalah 10% dari total investasi mereka masing-masing. Total Investasi di groupku sebesar $123,500.
Ayo leader Indonesia siapa yang sanggup & berani kesana?
Silahkan email ke aku: eryprasetya@gmail.com
sila hubungi saya calvin untuk tindakan selanjutnya 0060135726166. my88cth@yahoo.com.cn. Hapuskan SWISSCASH tidak lagi menipu orang.
someone want do the official police report about BB NG and serene cheah bee chon at Bukit aman and police international please urgent contact me. we do police report at bukit aman and police interpol.( +60135726166) urgent.
swisscash cheathing public money it reallity, we do police report at BUKIT AMAN and police International to TWO Person BB NG and Cheah Bee Choon. dont talk nonesene /rubbish we do the report let POLICE to investigate and hang them to jail. Cheathing Public money and who are now still introduced SWISSCASH.call me 0135726166. we do the official report together.I got all proof and evidence.
please dont keep quiet. we do police report at BUKIT AMAN to BB NG and Serene Cheah Bee Choon to hanging them to justice. their cheathing public money 0135726166. (my88cth@yahoo.com.cn)
jangan diam bagi gaman@sabahan.com duit you sudah untung BErjuta-juta sekarang investor ada masalah sabahan.com diam ini tak betul .kuat hisap darah/duit. 0135726166.
This message is directed to Swisscash and viewers of this blog forum,
Looks like the line of communication from Swisscash to investors is down the moment websites went offline.
Official news from Swisscash is normally thorugh the updates found in our trading account.
We were told from the FAQ that does not have any agent
The only people that represent Swiisscash from its FAQ is the Swiss Marketing Director and the Swiss Technical Director, even if such people exist.
Since there is no official news from any swisscash leaders so far, or if there are, they claim that they are not able to reveal the news due to security reason (give me a break), it can be safely concluded that nobody truly knows who the people running swisscash are and therefore our perception that our top leaders may know something may not be true.
It appears that even our top leader do not know anything, and messages through sms are being passed around giving some very uncertain dates about when everything will be ready.
My feedback to Swisscash is this. Your company operations need to review the way you are communicating with your investors. How can you depend on the top leader to pass information down? What if the top leader do not do it or if they pass incorect information? Are you then not vulnerable?
As of right now, you, SWisscash, need to put back the original Swisscash website, disable all trading activities if there are some upgrading to be done, and let us read your official memo from our trading account webpage as TO WHAT IS GOING ON.
Alternatively, you can take out a big advertisement in a newspaper and tell all Swisscash Investors what is going on.
Whatever it is, Swisscash, you are encouraged to communicate with your investors and you owe your investors an explanation.
Just because you operate on the ecommerce platform, it does not mean that FBI or interpol police cannot trace you. In fact it is easier to trace you,because most transactions are done throught the internet and payment made by you or your proxies to purchase domain names can be traced and exposed.
Regards
El.
we give 14day Last warnning to SWISSCASH. BB Ng ,serene chea Bee choon. we official do the police report at Bukit aman then let International police to investigate this cheathing money issue. fron calvin 0135726166. anak malalaysia.
we give 14day Last warnning to SWISSCASH. BB Ng ,serene chea Bee choon. we official do the police report at Bukit aman then let International police to investigate this cheathing money issue. from calvin 0135726166. anak malaysia.
Hi Folks,
In the event that SWISSCASH has ceased operations, it is recommended that you make a police report to your local authorities.
The more people that report, the more serious the case becomes.
If you keep quiet, the police does not have any mandate to take necessary action.
You will have to decide what is a reasonable date you want to give to swisscash to respond.
Calvin had given Swisscash 14 days to respond.
Regards
El.
if you need further info please direct send emel to me (my88cth@yahoo.com.cn)(direct handphone +60135726166 (0060 mean +60) mean IDD malaysia. I personel send this warning to SWISSCASH management ONE month ago at Website swisscash message board. answer it not respond. due to now situation RIGHT action it do official report to local police. Head Quarter to take fast action. any doubt please contact me direct +60135726166. Calvin.
until now still nobody call my handphone Talk BIG, Sound BIG, No action . I personnel will take action to SWISSCASH within 14days from Now. SWISSCASH cheathing money Team from Anak Malaysia calvin +60135726166. why all investor keep quite, No comment. Prepare Money to loose and talk BIG BIG, this is high risk program. remember SWISS MUTUAL FUND1948s.a capital guarantee. So Today WHO Guarantee Capital ?
till now still nobody call my handphone Talk BIG, Sound BIG, No action . I personnel will take action to SWISSCASH within 14days from Now. SWISSCASH cheathing money Team from Anak Malaysia calvin +60135726166. why all investor keep quite, No comment. Prepare Money to loose and talk BIG BIG, this is high risk program. remember SWISS MUTUAL FUND1948s.a capital guarantee. So Today WHO Guarantee Capital ?
what is wrong with you?? ALL investments have risks. The higher the returns, the greater the risks. If you cannot take any risk and losses, then let me suggest to you. DO NOT INVEST!! They may say guaranteed returns etc, but YOU ultimately have decided to go into this hence YOU have to be responsible for YOUR OWN ACTION and not blame anyone else!!
DB9 friend you are talk BIG BIG,very soon it your turn Not received money. remember, I will first person FUCK YOU, do you read term and condition: Your capital it Fully guarantee by swiss mutual fund1948s.a this is Black and white. please dont talk big big you are Very Very High Risk person ? How Much You Invest ? please contact me. I wait until now still No Body contact me .please sms to me or Emel me.
i am Malaysian Investor at swisscash min USD30000.00
so i know a to Z. swisscash really cheathing Public Money. used dirty tactic this month paid A,stop B, Next month Stop A paid D. all swisscash used DIRTY TACTIC, so someone get some none. this is professional tactic used by swisscash. Hapuskan SWISSCASH 0135726166. sama-sama hapuskan swisscash di dunia ini.
udah lah calvin loe baru invest 30.000 udah koar2 kayak cacing kepanasan gw aja invest hampir 60.000 masih diam aja kok. memang kita maunya kan dapat banyak, segala sesuatu itu ada resikonya. pertama kali kita mau ikut SC pasti kita sudah memikirkan resiko untuk hilang kan??? karena uang ditaruh didunia maya betul kan???? udah lah kalo memang hilang relakan aja. mau ngapain juga ngga bisa.
Hi Folks,
For your information, for those who have received OMT, police can trace the original issuer of these funds into your bank account, meaning who actually transferred these funds into your account, meaning that the true identity of Swisscash can be exposed.
Please also remember that Swisscash has an account with many banks in China for Investors in China. Police can trace who the recipient of these funds are, these funds sent by nvestors in China to open trading account with Swisscash and to purchase epoints from Swisscash.
So do not think that you are at the mercy of Swisscash.
Regards
El.
CNN International online news :
Television New York on August 25, 2007 reported that the recent period of time, the country is very
Many citizens reported to swisscash fund companies suspected of fraud, nearly a week have thousands
People of all continents for the police report.
This has alerted the FBI, and involved swisscash fund companies and all
Swisscash and the relevant departments for preliminary investigation.
FBI warns all right swisscash fund companies to invest in civil, a reservation
Cut swisscash relevant evidence. Timely to the police.
swisscash_china, no understand what you r writing. read yr statement. try again
due date for me it 13day from now. so hope more people do the police report at head Quarter level to let INTERPOL investigate detail ?who are the REal Cheathing Public money person used SWISSCASH be a tool made ownswelf rich ?
Swisscashchina,
What are you trying to deliver here, I catch you noting man. Sorry, please try again next time.
p/s: You are very efficient with FBI, is it stands for “Fast But Idiot”? Timely to the police?? I got a headache reading your message. Sorry!
Stupid ! This one use online translation! He can’t write English. What do you expect ??
till now still nobody call my handphone +60135726166 why ? ??????????? SWISSCASH high risk ???????? remember SWISS MUTUAL FUND1948s.a guarantee Capital at SWISSCASH ? today who guarantee CAPITAL ? since when swisscash change to High Risk investment ? I only know this is CHEATHING MONEY Programme. Hapuskan SWISSCASH at International.
swisscash will open new business at 32hb,ogos 2007. please patient wait ? 32hb ogos 2007.our money ZERO cheat by SWISSCASH.
Mr Calvin,
Having read your messages and understood clearly that you are trying to create negative sentiment to all investors, where positive investors won’t keep talk or think negatively.
From here, I can realized that you are seriously an idiot and you cant even write well and hence, you must be pretty lousy to speak a good English besides, you don even understand the SC features and etc.
You know WHY NOBODY IS CALLING YOU BUT IGNORING YOU?? because simply to see here that you are a sick guy.
GET OUT! Brush your English, thereafter go to see a doctor then only come back with your sharing!!!!
You really really need a doctor! Hahahah…
Well said Rollercoaster on Calvin and spot on!!
Hi,Calvin. What wrong to you. You invest 30 Thousand bukan banyak,,,,! Kalau 300 thousand ok lah.You banyak bising buat apa?. Kalau web running normal,dan pay to you also. Apa awak nak cakap….malu lah…! You ada Check baik-baik kah..!!!!! Swisscash open Before 1-10-2007 and pay to us USD3.50(USD1.00)p/share. Semua orang cuma tahu R.Dominica sahaja, tapi tiada orang tahu Taragona Franc. Kau tahu kah Swisscah punya BOSS pernah datang Malaysia dan meeting
dengan…….????????.
Mr Hidden, How much you invest ? Hope you are enjoy the benefit ? dont Bising Bising. maybe you are one off the right person can settle swisscash problem ? plese show your emel and contact number . to solve all swisscash investor problem ? Dont talk BIG ?>?????
Hi Mr Hidden,
Tolong beritahu tentang Taragona Franc.
Bila Swisscash boss Michael Mansfield datang malaysia?
El.
Hidden,
I strongly support your opinion here, we don’t listen to negative elements and we look SC bright ahead because we have been with SC since the beginning, and we know it will be back soon..
Patient and Peace
Best wishes.
Latest news on SwissCash:
There is information that all data is still in the SwissCash server. The domain name has been hacked by a tough hacker. SwissCash staff is still investigating who did it and redirecting the new SwissCash domain name. We are very sorry that SwissCash has not been able to be online but 1st-15th September is the new deadline. Email confirmation will be sent out to all investors as soon as the new SwissCash web is launched.
It seems that Some people worried about investors,what a kind people!!!!!!
or they enjoy worring others,like calvin,
let’s they think that we’ve lost our money, and Let’s they be happy, who care?
If you would like to think about losing,you will lose.
All of us are worried about our Investments.
It’s 50-50. just Be Patient.
and Dear Calvin, are you fine??
Fasanj. Please Go to Reality, I also prepare 50:50 but go to reality. this is Not Investment, this is DIRTY GAME playing by SWISSCASH to earn International Money. please Contact REgional Director : BB NG now kept Quiet, this is Key culprit must pay attention to him.DO YOU KNOW, who are BB NG ? do you want his photo ?
if you know that SC is playing dirty game why you invest?Are you stupid,idiot or what?Why did you just bring the money to the casino and gamble?I do believe if you lose in casino,you will also report to the police that you have been cheated by them.What a sick,poor man!!!!!!
I Receive News From A Friend (swisscash member)
that on 27th aug 2007,even though swisscash website is down one of the members receive money in his bank
this is great news!
Let us give more time to swisscash to sort out thing .
Cheers to SWISSCASH!!!!!!!!
due to past experience,i also congrat your friend? hope continuos min 10 month.get profit nett 150%. remember SWISSCASH management always planning How to Lock the money to other programme.For Investor who are investor will AUTOMATIC LOCK money at 1st day.after that will Play Dirty all control by swisscash. either paid you or Not. or Paid A, Not Paid B, this is Real practical formula,practic by SWISSCASH. Real Experience it Malaysia, Jamaican.
i hope that is so and ppl are still gettin their interest.. i wanted to join swisscash a couple of weeks ago but:( seemed i was too late.. or maybe i was early depending on the halting of their business, ne way.. if that is so and ppl are still getttin their money be sure to post it in the commenst and i hope that is the case, one more thing are there any techies out there dat cud create a little forum to make this this a little more organised.. it wud be really appreciated.. remember if u are still gettin interest POST IT..
with regards, marlon.. jamcaica
Message from Swisscash Asian Technical Director:
We’ve major upgrading and changing of 2 new servers with new face and
new
system.
Reasons behind
(1) SwissCash is now undergoing major maintenance and switching of
servers.
(2) SwissCash did not give prior notice to its investors for security
reason.
(3) SwissCash is now undergoing rebranding, new enhancement and
security.
(4) SwissCash is upgrading to accommodate the growth of its business
worldwide.
(5) SwissCash is not lacking in business as many countries are not
fullytapped.
(6) SwissCash has been spending millions of dollars in upgrading and
security.
(7) SwissCash is not obligated under any transparency act and putting
SwissCash
in the same basket as other scam programs is totally unaccepted.
(8) SwissCash has a vision and mission. What we see is only a tip of the
iceberg.
We just need to wait for a couple of days and hopefully by 25 Aug or
for the
worse projection until 15 Sep the website is OK.
We’ve 2 incidents 1) website is down for 4 days, 2) website is down for
5
days for expansion of server. This time the task of producing 2 new
servers is like manufacturing 2 new cars, hence, we are expecting to
wait
for a longer time.
As per day, we are having millions of volume, the company should be more
concerned than anyone else and would make the website up 100%. We shall
inform everyone once the website is up and please DO NOT USE YOUR PIN TO
ANY SIMILAR SITES.
Hi Bro…. any latest development on SC…? We are all in the dark…?
DEAR CALVIN,
ONCE SWISS CASH IS UP THE BEST YOU CAN DO IS TO WITHDRAW ALL YOUR E-POINT DEN CLOSE YOUR ACCT!!! DO NOT INVEST IF YOU ARE NOT A HIGH RISK TAKER!!
Latest Information SWISSCASH CHINA cheathing Investor money minimum USD500,000.00(FIve hundred Thounsand).any need the comfirmation please contact me. info fet 22:53:30 28 AUG 2007 from china group investor.
i agree with “invest”. To ou dear Calvin, pls heed “invest”‘s advice and withdraw your money and DO NOT GO INTO ANY OTHER INVESTMENT since you cannot bear any risk involve. Just keep your money and earn your interest from the bank. Safer for ppl like you who wishes to blame others for your own actions!
YES… . STOP BLAMMING OTHERS !!!
TAKE OUT YOUR MONEY AND DON’T YOU EVER DARE TO REINVEST AGAIN IN SC !!!
WAKE UP CALVIN !!!! WAKE UP !!!!
Today I received ONE bad New from China, Swisscash Cheathing The Group min USD 5million USD. Now the group will do Internationational police report for BB NG.
t TO THE SWISSCASH INTERNATIONAL S.A. Iam invester u co.i seen in computer net so verry critical proplem at place chakrawat or so and so i pray that all problem are sole.discusion off all any state in india.new server in working dt of ist to fifteen.in started of side.i hope that this date are opning.good health good luck and everything is sucsessful in life. THANKS SWISSCASH INTERNATIONAL.
SO WHY DON’T YOU JOIN THEM..MAKE A REPORT ALSO..YOU’VE BEEN LOOKING HIGH AND LOW FOR PPL TO JOIN IN TO REPORT THIS MATTER ..SO JOIN THEM !!!
DON’T WAIT …NO NEED TO GIVE URSELF 14 DAYS GRACE PERIOD…GO N JOIN TO MAKE…
COME ON CALVIN..FOLLOW UR HEART..MAKE URSELF HAPPY LA…
sure the victim will done the interpol report As soon as possible, this is reality,sure will do it as soon as possible. please sms me I will forward E-mel to u let you know this is REALITY. INVEST is kind BAKING DOG person Talk BIG, No Point coment Very Positive.
Haha..I never saw such a culprit man liked you.
You are so disgusting and behaved like a “Crazy dog chasing ghost”..You are really joker!
Posted up here your email address then, and why you keep asking people to give you contact and address, should we give you our ID and password upon your coming up request..haha..only in you dream Calvin!
DEAR CALVIN, JUZ FORWARD OR POST THE E-MEL HERE…SO THAT EVERYBODY WILL KNOW WAT CRAPP!! U TALKING >>
Hi All
Kindly post all the latest information in this forum and it will be helpfull for all.I am expecting, hope and wish that Sc site will be soon back. I requst ROY to update the latest information so that it will be helpful for all who did not get even a single return. May god help the SC Admin to bring the site back as soon as possible.Hi invest from where u get the infos?Comment on this.
for person who are INVESTOR please emel the emel address , contact tel No, Trading ID: for proof you are Investor at swisscash. this is LEGAL document I cant simply give out, without Verify you are INVESTOR just received sms from +6591461070. please attached relevent particular for me .to proof you also VICTIM at swisscash. only VICTIM at swisscash qualify got this document.
INVEST , please send relevent particular for me, I will e-mel to you.
Hi All,
dear calvin , you should start a Press Agent, or CTV means “Calvin TV”
Be sure, we are realistic and ourself decided to do this game that you think it is dirty,
I’m sure you are not Investor in SC.
one of my friend who inivite me to invest, started 8 months ago with 1500 USD , and he’s earned 50,000USD uptonow.
COME ON LA CALVIN !!!! , IF YOU CAN PROOF IT NO NEED TO GIF THIS IS EMAIL ONLY FOR VICTIM OF SWISSCASH..WAT U TALKING!! BE OPEN SO THAT EVERYBODY KNOW !!
NO NEED TO BE SECRETIVE! I DARE YOU ! ..POST IT ONLINE !! WATS THERE TO HIDE
ANYBODY AGREE WITH ME ???
Life still goes on whatever the outcome. I am still optimistic that Swisscash will come back soon. What is the use of the show of anger over all this matter, Calvin? Or are you one of those guys trying to drum up support to prosecute Swisscash on whatever the outcome? Don’t tell me you are from SC. If you really have proof on the scam by Swisscash, please post it on this blog. We really welcome it. If not, then stop trying to be so negative and make the whole world worried and making certain depressed investor jump from tall buildings. We won’t want to have this scenario, right?
You know what guys? I think Calvin is trying to get every investors’ account details so that he himself can hack into them and earn from the investors. So pls all SC investors, DO NOT GIVE YOUR ACCOUNT DETAILS TO ANYONE! ESPECIALLY Calvin….for all you know he might be a con man trying to get into your account!!
Thanks All Investor who are optimistic, and give their power to others,
I thinks they’re real Investors and real man.
this is result of investing in SC many people from many countries connect together, and share their happiness and sadness
in waiting good news about sc
Thanks All Investors who are optimistic, and give their power to others,
I thinks they’re real Investors and real man.
this is result of investing in SC many people from many countries connect together, and share their happiness and sadness
in waiting good news about sc
I think swisscash will come back with good news and let us wait for thier plans.Have patience.Let us pray Always remember “Wealth and Happiness is unlimited.Let us earn and share”
Positive thinking makes us stronger to believe in the swisscash system which is so good, that it has stayed in business inspite of what happened in Malaysia.So let us wait till they upgrade and open their site.Swisscash will never run away with so many peoples money at stake.
Thanks
RAVINDRA from India
Hey all,
sip25.com is now active
SIP25 Whois Status 30 aug 2007
Domain Name SIP25.COM
Registrar DIRECT INFORMATION PVT LTD D/B/A PUBLICDOMAINREGISTRY.COM
Whois Server whois.PublicDomainRegistry.com
Referral URL http://www.PublicDomainRegistry.com
Name Server No nameserver
Status ok
Updated Date 29-aug-2007
Creation Date 30-mar-2007
Expiration Date 30-mar-2008
Last update of whois database Wed, 29 Aug 2007 16:26:54 UTC
Supported By
Registrant
Name Protected Domain Services
Person Protected Domain Services
Email swisscash.net@name.net
Address 125 Rampart Way
Address Suite 300
City Denver
StateProvince CO
PostalCode 80230
Country US
CountryCode US
Phone +1.176088494
Name SIP25.COM
NameServer No NameServers Defined.
CreatedDate 30-Mar-2007
ExpiresDate 30-Mar-2008
Status ACTIVE
Status clientTransferProhibited
AdminContact
Name Protected Domain Services
Person Protected Domain Services
Email swisscash.net@name.net
Address 125 Rampart Way
Address Suite 300
City Denver
StateProvince CO
PostalCode 80230
Country US
CountryCode US
Phone +1.176088494
TechContact
Name Protected Domain Services
Person Protected Domain Services
Email swisscash.net@name.net
Address 125 Rampart Way
Address Suite 300
City Denver
StateProvince CO
PostalCode 80230
Country US
CountryCode US
Phone +1.176088494
August 30th, 2007 Posted by hanzahar | SIP25 Update | No Comments
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Hey,
http://WWW.SIP.COM is not opening yet ! ! ! !
hamidah mentioned that “swisscash new website is http://www.swisscash25.net however it’s on maintenance so u can log in later” on Aug 25. (Her/his comment is above)
I wonder how she/he got the new web address of SC? I checked that web address, and there is SC web existing. Before I log-in my account,I asked my up-line of SC. Then he said that http://www.swisscash25.net is not genuine.
He also said that we should prepare for the worst case scenario if SC won’t come back officially by Sep 15. I just want to know the correct info.
TAKEN FROM SWISSCASH NEWS UPDATE JULY 2007
“NEW YORK, June 27, 2007 — Driven by a strong global economy, the wealth of the world’s high-net-worth individuals (HNWIs – Individuals with net assets of at least U.S. $1 million, excluding their primary residence and consumables) increased 11.4 percent to US$37.2 trillion in 2006, according to the 11th annual World Wealth Report, released today by Merrill Lynch (NYSE: MER) and Capgemini. The number of HNWIs in the world increased 8.3 percent in 2006 to 9.5 million and the number of ultra-high-net-worth individuals (Ultra-HNWs – Individuals with net assets of at least U.S. $30 million, excluding their primary residence and consumables) grew by 11.3 percent to 94,970.”
My dear Financial Consultants, Planners and Investors, are you a HNWI or Ultra-HNWI? If you belong to either class, I congratulate you. If you are not yet among these people, I leave it to yourself to reflect.
The world is moving constantly as we sleep, relax and work. The world since creation has never stop changing from the east to west, north to south. With the aid of Information Technology and Tele-Communication Infrastructure, people across the globe change and increase their competitive edge and wealth every second. Are you one of them? Are you with the flow or are you still a spectator?
Let’s reflect on SwissCash. More than two years ago, we started this financial platform; we focused in Asia, Europe and Latin America. Now we have consultants, planners and investors in more than 200 countries across the globe. We are already running funds that go into billions. From SIP15300, we improved to SIP25. We launched EMF with enormous success and our latest product ACF is nothing less than brilliant.
We continuously work on solutions to issues in developing countries; in some we succeed and some are still pending but we move on and continue to grow. I want to remind you that this financial platform is a truly global brand with no limitation but yourself.
I urged you to reflect on whether you are or want to be a HNWI or Ultra-HNWI. Are you already among the Top-9.5 million people or Top-94,970 people in the world? What is your next action plan? When will you execute your plan? Where and who is your target market? How will you achieve your financial goals? Why are you doing all this—is it for yourself, for your retirement plan, for your family or for personal satisfaction? What kind of legacy you want to build together with SwissCash?
Forgive me for putting all these facts and figures into your brain. My goal is to remind you that life is a never-ending journey. New objectives, targets and visions need to be set, reflected on and redefined from time to time. Update your resolution to grow with SwissCash. We foresee SwissCash entering a phase of rebranding and launching of new financial products in the coming months that will further enhance our image as a global financial platform. I want you to start preparing for this upgrade. I want you to be part of it. I want you to feel excited from now onwards. I want you to be our greatest ambassador. I want you to feel proud that you are building your own legacy in SwissCash.
Remember that each journey of a thousand miles starts with a baby step.
Michael Mansfield
Chief Financial Officer of SwissCash International – July 2007
PS *** We foresee SwissCash entering a phase of rebranding and launching of new financial products in the coming months that will further enhance our image as a global financial platform. I want you to start preparing for this upgrade. I want you to be part of it.
To all dear investors..lets wait till 1st-15th Sept .NEWS had been sent to us much more earlier..SO LETS BE PATIENT …
CHEERS TO SWISSCASH!!!
SWISSCASH is High Risk Investment ,Everybody who are Invest must prepare loose money anytime. Mean Everybody Buy car and must prepare once day DIED inside Car. This Is Very Positive, High motivation Person Talking. Dream swisscash Cheathing Money at InternationalLevel.
What cock are you talking about?
The moment you invested, and the moment when you ask people to buy, you said dream rich and now this is your fucking “high motivation person talking” hah?
Your fucking ass will be cracked by thunder.
NEWS, NEWS NEWS….
NOTHING OFFICIAL FROM SC ????????
NO ASSUMPTIONS PLEASE…..
WE WANT OFFICIAL NEWS ON SC REACTIVATION DATE…
Swiss cash is gone forever..No point waiting..
Swiss Cash is dead…dead….There goes my hard earn money… BUT STILL LIFE GOES ON..
Just received a phone call on the New Official SC website..
http://www.swissguide.com
Can anyone confirm this is true ???
Hi All Sc Investor,
The new website of SC called http://www.swisscashguide.com but we cannot log in until 15th Sept. Long life for SC.Our worries is over now be happy guys.
Sorry, its
http://www.swisscashguide.com
Cannot login.
Another scam ??
Dear All,
I opened the site http://www.swisscashguide.com and surfed the site which looks original. I have not logged with my id. I will not do it till I get confirmation.
I can wait till 15th sept’07 OK. Till then all doubts will be cleared.
Any Senior Dealers of Swisscash can comment and guide us since I am too Junior.
Warm Regards
RAVINDRA from India
Deat Investors!
http://www.swisscashguide.com is not fake website.
SMF technical directors introduced it today. if you go to login page and click on submit button you will see it works as reset button and it shows this website does n’t want to collect your login information as swisscash25.net and swisscash25.org do!!!
Cheers
Thanks for your prompt information swisscashmiddleast.
Long Live our SWISSCASH
Our Gateway to Financial Freedom !
Cheers
Ravindra from India
From SC Alert
Dear all SMF and SC Investors,
Thanks a lot for your patience still being with us and trusting us as your Investing Company. As all of you might heard about bad news in recent days or months about SC, we found our responsibility to inform you about the following matters:
1- In 18.Aug.2007 the Mareva department of Interpol has blocked our servers and websites and locked them all and also all our mirror websites and brought our case to an International court without any documents against us. Just as we were the best HY paying on internet! While we have over 580,000 investors worldwide in over 200 countries.
2- In about 28 months of successful performance of SMF, there is no individual who can claim not receiving payments from us so we had no complaints. But they have blocked access to our websites. So Most of our investors would imagine that we are scammers and disappeared from web and got all their money with us.
3- Here we promise you to be available soon in a different name and policy to serve and support our clients to show our commitment to all of you and this great business.
4- We only ask you to be patient to get good news from our Financial Consultants and local technical Managers and do not trust any news or new websites except what we send you by SMS or email.
5- Our great financial team and traders would start a new age of trading plans for you that no one would even imagine of it.
6- We might use local experts for our financial affairs with a global support.
7- Our new partner promised us to get ready and functional until 15 September to continue this great business in behalf of SMF.
So we strongly ask you not to trust anyone or any other scam websites during this period except our introduced agents. We will announce you by mail or SMS or only through this temporary website.
Thanks a lot for your support and patience
Chief Financial Officer of SMF
Michael Mansfield
Aug.30.2007
I thought Michael Mansfield is the CFO of SC how come now include SMF, since when??? Dun u think sound fishy? English used alot of grammatical mistakes….
I am not sure if swisscashguide.com website is offical ? I rather wait for the real offical words. Still not trust about the website since we do not hear the offical message from Swisscash.
How do you know http://www.swisscashguide.com is not fake ?
Where do you get the words ?
I know Swisscash will be back but with the new webside ? ?
Nobody knows if this is the official website as of now
However, you are not able to register any new trading account and also when you log in, the system simply ignores your entry as opposed to capturing your password.
REgards
El.
Since we know that http://www.swisscash25.net is not the valid website, why don’t we give them what they want…flood them with fake trading id’s and password. Just for fun!
Can anyone be quiet.
Thanks a lots
AF
It seemed that this web site is http://www.swisscashguide.com genuine and the ‘locked’down of this websie was due to the Malaysian Government interferring by taking an international mareva on Swisscash. How pathethic of the Malaysian Government to do so so that we ‘suffer’. No wonder Malaysians are always under the Govt thumb and stifle badly with bad TI (Transparency Index) position – full of corruption. I say that as I was a Malaysian and given up my citizenship. Go SC and prosper!!
Swiss Cash!!! Siapa Takut.
Biasanya orang negatif karena tak berani, Penakut dan sebagai pengamat.Anda tahu pengamat..Nga Dibayar paling bisa nyalih orang lain. Nah kalau Berani jd pemain dan dibayar dan jadilah Investor yang Ulung. Swisscash LUAR BIASA, Ng join..Cucian dech lho!
Kalau emang anda sebagai seorang player kenapa anda gak bicara jujur dan berikan imformasi yang akurat terhadap rekan – rekan seorang invetor saya yakin punya hati yang baik berbagi kepada orang lain.
I had logged in my ID and password not knowing which is the official website. Is the website swisscash25.net the valid one? I would like to know what would happen if I had actually logged in. Would my trading id and password be captured?
Does anybody try to login on http://www.swisscashguide.com does this website works? Pls. let me know if this is the updated website for swisscash.
Thanks…
It is best to wait until we receive a sms or email from SC about new website. Too many fakes sites around. Best we all be patient. Yes, http://www.swisscashguide.com kind of look real but that report from Michael Mansfield has too many grammatical errors and is not the style of writing that we are used to from him. I would not chance logging in with my ID and password, next thing it is a fake site and your info would be captured.
The bottom line is let us proceed with caution and just wait patiently rather than getting anxious and get messed up and lose our hard earned funds.
Mujobaby, Jamaica
hi all.how could believe swisscashguide.com is a official website of swisscash.
hi anyone investor from saudiarabia.if anybody ve pls contact me via email
Hi.
SC comeback soon.
check link below:
http://www.swisscashguide.com
have nice time…..
I don,t know swisscash website is active again, in that Add. can you tell me this is play!? maybe is truth or another plan for fake!
Can any one say which is the new web site of swisscash
Is swisscashguide.com is a correct one?
Kishore from India
Swisscashguide.com was not announced as the new genuine website. So we should wait for the website to be announced by sms or email from SC Management. Do not login your ID and password to any so called swisscash sites while the original site is still down!! Lots of bogus swisscash sites all over the place. Be careful!
Hi,
Thanks for your well reminder.
Yes, we should keep remind each other here not matter whosoever, please do not disclosed or authorised anyone to log-in your account on behalf of ourselves.
You did the right job, let’s look positively from here now..
God bless that SC is shining up again soon, coming out from the dark!
I would like to contact you, Khun Somchai ?
my email address is ‘UHUjang@hotmail.com
thanks for your kind concern.
New website has NOT been announced by SC management. So do not login to any so called swisscash sites until properly advised to do so. There are a lot of fake sites around even as the official website is still down. So be careful with your login ID and password and do enter them on any website around now!
No Coment today. all must think Very positive and SWEET DREAM be DREAM KAYA.
http://www.swisscashguide.com is another phishing site like http://www.swisscash25.com
first reason is its very poor english .
second 2- In about 28 months of successful performance of SMF, there is no individual who can claim not receiving payments from us so we had no complaint…
SMF hasnt started 28 months ago ! The hacker still dosent know the difference between SMF and SC .
third: Chief Financial Officer of SMF
Michael Mansfield
Aug.30.2007
Michael Mansfield was SC CFO not SMF CFO !
I personaly think SC has gone forever , any way it was a risk we accepted and this is the cost we have to pay .
all the best .
Mehdi
swissmutualcash@yahoo.com
Taken from MMG
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Hi all swisscash investors i am a new member to this foorum and my inglish is not so good. Sory
I like to share some important info to you all and it is a very bad news from Mr Amir Bin Hassan.
Mr Amir just come back from out-station and he is my friend and bisnes partner. We sometime sit together and have drink talk about internet bisnes. I ask him about swisscash last 1 week ago
and he say swisscash already close the website because of the october payment to malaysia
singapura and indonesia investor and the company have no money to pay all of them one shot.
I ask him is the website is all true about company profile. He say swisscash is run by malaysian singapore chinese people and not the foren people like micheal mansfeld. All the money invested
is rolling among the investor and all the money is already paid to big investors and thats why there is no money to rolling. I ask him for the new date people saying the website will open and he say that all are the rumers and update by some other people who good in creating website and not from swisscash. He say nobody is handling the original swisscash website anymore. I know all you
fill not happy with this info but i have to tell this because i see a lot of people have high hope and thinking this website is under mantenans.
You all need to accept this true info because i listen this from the big people from swisscash Mr
Amir Bin Hassan and he is very rich now. He stay in United Kingdom for 3 month in his friend house there and come back to visit his sick family member and he will be going back maybe after2 weeks again to United Kingdom. Maybe i will be going with him to work there with his company.He ask me to keep secret about what he told me but i cannot keep quiet and let you all hope swisscash will come back thats why i want to tell this sory again if my post let you all down but
what i can do thing already happen and we have to continue with our life.
Please dont waste your time hoping for somthings that wont happen and tell your friends or family member who already invest to forget about swisscash and stay happy with your love one.
Warm regards
***** I HOPES WE ALL DON’T JUMP FROM THE BUILDING… OK!
Thanks for your such well comments.
But how much do you invest frankly?
Think it all over again, are they con you because your money was invested through them, and SC is coming back.
Don’t listen to unwell comments from anyone especially them, because at this kind of situation, the most effective and easy answer that they get you is “Game Over”, so that you won’t suspect them just because they want to hire you to work with them.
Tell me one good faith in your heart, do you rather worked for good and have a good life or do you liked to work with evil?
Govtment have freezed all their assests, income and even their passport and they are not allowed to leave Malaysia now. Please don’t simply be blinded by those one you mentioned upthere.
I wish you have a peace of mind, and patient is the precious thing to live on, and stay good faith in SC.
Yes or not coming back, please do have a positive look into this. Last, I hope you don’t simply believe that “they” are going to realize your dream to U.K, I worry for you is that you will be their “black-sheep”, lay man term is “used” you as an inter-media and at last you are the one behind the bars.
Please be extra careful at these days.
Please do not leak/disclose your ID/Password to anyone, even you trusted leader because now is the time that they will presume to you that is gone, and behind they took your portion all without your knowledge.
I wish my advice can help you a little over here.
May Mighty God Bless his son, we are all his son.
I do not know if this message is true ?
I wonder why people start to write the most crappest news.
I am still waiting until the offical news coming. NOT from any stupid BOZOs ! ! I do not care if SwissCash is folded or closed for good. I am SwissCash myself. If SwissCash is folded, So Everyone just learn to move on.
Remember We live and learn until DEATH !
I am getting tired of crap,crap,crap,crap ! !
Someone needs to be grown up , Come on ! !
One more thing, IF you know SwissCASH is risky then why you start to invest your money at first place. SO Stop bitching about it.
NOW these messgaes are like soap opara show ! !
J-U-S-T BE P-A-T-I-E-N-T ! ! ! If you do not like my message or do not agree with my message, THEN run your
Hey “Ms” Mehdi
You are indirectly correcting the hacker to have more understanding about their errors.
Please keep your fucking mouth shut, got that?!
Be polite please
I told this just because some stupid ppl like you dont get hacked . got it? eat it .
can u asses swisscash for malaysia my
Lee,
Be patient with it. I shall not used the word “No worries”. Just stay calm, and please do not disclose or authorized a third party on other end/states/country to help in log in your sc account.
While 15Sept is deal and done, I will share with you personally about following steps.
Best wishes.
Risingsun…thank u for advise dream 15 Sept come true send your email to me
Best Wishes
Hi, Lee
Glad to see that you’re calming down all time.
Yeah..I tried to reach you but aint to have your email address, what’s your email address?
p/s: Don’t worry, I heard good positive news on SC coming soon, probably not 15th sept exactly but will be soon coz 1st Oct is the withdrawal date for ACF Fund, remember?
Best wishes and you, and all of SC investors!
Hi risingsun,
my email hslee8118@yahoo.com.my tq for advise hopely 15 sept. i will get sms or email about swisscash
Lee
I totally agree with u. Its not come back.
FUCK swiss cash; i lost US$3000, and i didnt even get to sign up wit the e-points. i didnt get back a single cent. I cant even let anybody know this cause they warned me
Jamalee
Jamaican
I strongly believe that SC will not come back again.
I invested on Aug 13, 2007. Not even get 1 cent back.
FUCK SwissCash !!!!
DAM RONG,
YOU DAMN FUCKER, I AM YOUR SELAYANG CUSTOMER. WHAT THE FUCK YOU TRYING TO TALK SWEET HERE AGAIN.
YOU DAMN FUCKER, WHEN PROBLEM CAME YOU DON EVEN FUCK TO ANSWERED PAK HAJI PHONE CALL.
AND NOW YOU CHICKEN SHIT APPEARED AGAIN TO GRAB BUSINESS AGAIN IS IT? WHEN YOU FEEL LIKE SWISS CASH IS COMING BACK.
FUCK YOU DAM RONG, YOUR NAME SPELLED THE SHIT, YOU ARE FUCKING DAM WRONG, WHY NOT YOU TELL EVERYBODY HERE THAT YOU ARE ALSO THE SUB-LEADER OF SWISS CASH, WHY NOT YOU POST-UP YOUR LOCAL MALAYSIA HANDPHONE NUMBER HAH!!!! YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE, WHERE IS OUR MONEY?
DON THINK LIKE YOU ARE THE SAINT HERE TO CONSOLE EVERYONE! YOU ARE PIECE OF SHIT, EVERYBODY PLS BEWARE OF THIS GUY!
PLS BECAREFUL WITH GUY NAMED, DAM RONG.
CHECK MESSAGE I SEND HIM. HE IS A FUCKER, HEARD NOW SWISS CASH GOT POTENTIAL COMING BACK, THEN HE POSTED HIS OVERSEAS CONTACT AGAIN SO CAN CHEAT THE INNOCENT TO BUY AGAIN, AND FUCKING SCARED TO POST OUT HIS LOCAL MALAYSIA CONTACT.
Latest from WORLDPRESS>COM…..is this TRUE
Confessin From A Friend Of Top Leader Of Swisscash…No Proof Though
“Hi all swisscash investors i am a new member to this foorum and my inglish is not so good. Sory
I like to share some important info to you all and it is a very bad news from Mr Amir Bin Hassan.
Mr Amir just come back from out-station and he is my friend and bisnes partner. We sometime sit together and have drink talk about internet bisnes. I ask him about swisscash last 1 week ago
and he say swisscash already close the website because of the october payment to malaysia
singapura and indonesia investor and the company have no money to pay all of them one shot.
I ask him is the website is all true about company profile. He say swisscash is run by malaysian singapore chinese people and not the foren people like micheal mansfeld. All the money invested
is rolling among the investor and all the money is already paid to big investors and thats why there is no money to rolling. I ask him for the new date people saying the website will open and he say that all are the rumers and update by some other people who good in creating website and not from swisscash. He say nobody is handling the original swisscash website anymore. I know all you
fill not happy with this info but i have to tell this because i see a lot of people have high hope and thinking this website is under mantenans.
You all need to accept this true info because i listen this from the big people from swisscash Mr
Amir Bin Hassan and he is very rich now. He stay in United Kingdom for 3 month in his friend house there and come back to visit his sick family member and he will be going back maybe after2 weeks again to United Kingdom. Maybe i will be going with him to work there with his company.He ask me to keep secret about what he told me but i cannot keep quiet and let you all hope swisscash will come back thats why i want to tell this sory again if my post let you all down but
what i can do thing already happen and we have to continue with our life.
Please dont waste your time hoping for somthings that wont happen and tell your friends or family member who already invest to forget about swisscash and stay happy with your love one.
Warm regards”
p.s: there is no proof if this statment is true
September 3rd, 2007 – Posted by hanzahar | Swisscash Update, Important Swisscash News, Important News | No Comments
Hi Geogeo,
I understand your sentiment after getting such info, and I truly respect Dave’s feedback and I liked to remind us all to be much matured to adapt only quality news and by a poor manner here to the origin sender of this message, I would said that this is a piece of rubbish news that I ever read. I have no intention to crush out all of our utmost faith to SC here, please just stay focus and keep away from those distracting messages here.
To ease you/ and all investors sorrow, I am doing my last favor and I wont repeat/reply further to the comment by “rogon rayo” because simply he is a failure and looser, and we don’t follow failure.
What I brought to you/all here is not to totally believe what I mentioned below but its on your personal assessment.
Just to share little of knowledge right up with http://www.worldpress.com, this company is well reputable company set up since 10 over years ago and till as today, day after day, they are working hard by publishing genuine news with logical proof or evidence in every single piece of news/incidents happened all around the world, and even a myth news will also be delivered professionally and carefully. A global leader in online news, which have deal with BBC,CNN, Reuters international, Washington Post etc.
My one & only single question is:
Will a 10 over years of experience and well reputable online news company adapt such piece of crap-news? Just think over it!
A well prepared businessman or even a student know how to empowers knowledges into their brain, that is to adapt genuine and quality news from quality people/publishers. So, let’s drop that comment ok?
Let’s live our life free from those destruction news and peoples!
This piece of my sharing is solely dedicated to all my fella friends here and investors of SC.
Hi Geo Geo
When swisscash will be activated because ACF very close
Lee
Thank You GEO GEO. True Story ,i am appreciated.Another group investor(VERY POSITIVE) cannot accept so Better we start the NEW LIFE. and let them waiting money drop from sky. Real story sometime can be false story.why ? Human Being ?
I do not know if this message is true ?
I wonder why people start to write the most crappest news.
I am still waiting until the offical news coming. NOT from any stupid BOZOs ! ! I do not care if SwissCash is folded or closed for good. I am SwissCash myself. If SwissCash is folded, So Everyone just learn to move on.
Remember We live and learn until DEATH !
I am getting tired of crap,crap,crap,crap ! !
Someone needs to be grown up , Come on ! !
One more thing, IF you know SwissCASH is risky then why you start to invest your money at first place. SO Stop bitching about it.
NOW these messgaes are like soap opara show ! !
J-U-S-T BE P-A-T-I-E-N-T ! ! ! If you do not like my message or do not agree with my message, THEN run your life ! ! !
Hi
Swisscash Updated the Server…….
Visit this site:
http://www.domainsdb.net/swissmutualfund.biz
http://www.domainsdb.net/swisscash.net
this two site is showing Server but http://www.sip25.com is not showing server. http://www.domainsdb.net/sip25.com
So http://www.swisscash.net finished update it will come first. http://www.sip25.com may not come.
Another one try this http://www.domainsdb.net/yahoo.com It is also showing Server.
If server is there, It is showing other wise not showing. http://www.sip25.com is not showing server and http://www.swisscash.net is showing server. So swisscash return with in a week……..
Information for domain swissmutualfund.biz
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Name Server: ns1.yahoo.com
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Folks,
Please stop the cursing. Learn to respect each other even though you may have different views. I noticed that some folks do not want to hear bad news and seek to discredit those who bear it. Anyway, this is real life and news is sometimes good but not always good… we have to appreciate that. We all take risks and we need to know what the risks mean… it is never guaranteed to “win” all the time.
Now some perspective on SWISSCASH:
(1) SC was a PYRAMID scheme through and through… all the signs were there, we saw it, some accepted it and others ignored it;
(2) When the worlwide Mareva injunction was filed some ignored this fact as well. Just bear in mind that this was meant to end the SC scheme entirely;
(3) Now the lastest “news” is that SC has “CRASHED”… some believe it… others do not. Anyway, believe it or not, we will soon be aware (I just heard a newscast on TV that reported the crash…we’ll see.)
By the way, the names on the SC site (Michael Mansfield etc.) have been reported to all be ficticious. Apparently the original “owners” of SC were all Malaysian hence they could be tracked by Malaysian Govt. Believe it or not – you are free to choose!
Patricio
I bet you are from Jamaica because I just heard that TV report. You should know it was the same way they said Malaysia had blocked everybody from Swisscash website when the Malaysia issue came up.
What proofs have you got for your perspectives?
I am just tired of all the speculations and no one has any official word from SwissCash itself. We hear the website will be up by the 15th so I will wait and see what happens then.
I hope if it comes up back, all the naysayers will just quit once and for all because this high risk investment is definitely not for you!!
I have to be positive because I know the financial benefits of SwissCash so it is countdown time for me to see the site again. I read on another forum that people are still receiving OMTs even thought the website is down. So how do you explain that?
Hello Mujobaby,
It’s OK to be sceptical but everyone will have their own perspective. I persoanlly have been looking at some evidence which makes it clear in my mind that SC was a pyramid from the beginning.
Ask yourself this:
(1) Why do they refuse to communicate and be ‘contactable’ from the beginning?
(2) Why offer such incentives for ‘downline’ recruiting when the returns were so attractive on their own merit?
(3) Why did it take so long to get an encashment/ outgoing wire?
As I said before, each of us will have our perspectives… we will all know for sure, in a little more time, which ones are right.
Real New come out. but until today still got TWO group people. ONE accept this is Good experience at life.another Group still Very Very Positive and Sound High so let this group people to wait money Down from Sky. close story for SWISSCASH. real story from AMIR Bin Hassan. Thank a lot. either Your real story but Big Dream people cannot accept it. Remember TOMORROW WILL BE BETTER, SWISSCASH CLOSE IT REALITY. You can enjoy your dream. bye bye.
http://www.swisscash25.net IP :address: 202.71.152.103.
http://www.swisscashguide.com IP address:660232.22.18. official letter from officer Dominica; SWISS MUTUAL FUND1948s.a Dissolved since 12-Dec-2006. now Liquidator is CCP Inc.
SWISSCASH close shop cheer. cheer .cheer. it will Not More Victim at SWISSCASH or SWISS MUTUAL FUND1948s.a Announced from SMF CFO Michael Mansfield.effective 01/OCT/2007. Cheer cheer cheer ,No More Internet Victim at SWISSCASH. SWISS MUTUAL FUND1948s.a
DEAR MR DARN RONG..
I THINK U ARE THE MOST CRAPPEST PPL OF ALL…TO ALL MR DARN RONG IS A HYPOCRITE…HOW DARE U USE THE HP NO WHICH DOESN’T BELONG TO YOU…
Comment by Dam Rong+6591461070
I’M VERY SURE THAT IS NOT UR BLEDDIE NO…
WAT THE **** ???
U ARE ONE OF THE IRRITATING SPECIES ON EARTH
AM I RITE ???
Let us all think about this :
1. Using IE7, both the websites http://www.swisscash25.net and http://www.swiscashguide.com did not register to be phishing sites. It would be quite a job to fabricate these sites just to get your trading ids and passwords.
2. If either of 1)above are fake sites, what is the point of stealing your data when Swisscash is dead and gone
3. Assuming these idiots did not know that Swisscash is dead, what is the point of stealing your ids and passwords when they do not know the TAP, a second level password. No OMT or internal transfer allowed without TAP.
4. As what sw28 mentioned about the bad grammar, if anyone had read the FAQ in the original website, their grammar was atrocious too.
5. The only difference between now and then is that Swisscash now tries to explain the predicament they are in. How unusual?! Is that the real Swisscash or have they gone more ‘corporate friendly’?
So what have we deduce so far??!!
Hi Dear Michael
thanks for your logical thinking.
All should know, nobody can steal our Money without Our Personal information such as TAP.
BUT!!!!! Please Delete All Email from your Inbox,that SC has sent them.
http://www.swisscashquide.com is real, but it hasn’t linked to Database yet, then we cant login or register.
Be patient, Don’t Accept any thing without research and thinking.
HI DAM RONG
YOU ARE DAMMED STUPID PUKI MAK YOU.
DEAR MR DARN RONG..
I THINK U ARE THE MOST CRAPPEST PPL OF ALL…TO ALL MR DARN RONG IS A HYPOCRITE…HOW DARE U USE THE HP NO WHICH DOESN’T BELONG TO YOU…
Comment by Dam Rong+6591461070
CAN U PLLLLLLLSSSSSSSS EXPLAIN WHY DO YOU USE DAT NO WHICH DOESN’T BELONG TO YOU????
I’M 1001% SURE DAT IS NOT URSSSSSSSSS
BLEDDIE IRRITATIN SPECIES!!!
TO ALLLL INVESTOR I TINK MR DAM RONG IS ONE OF THE PPL THAT IS TRYING TO PULL EVERYBODY DOWN..
Either You like it Reality it Reality. This Is Not Psikology job. depend You You Want Positive Just do it for own Positive. this is my Personel phone. My job it not let You down or Up. It Reality. Reality it Reality. anyonce cannot change it. Except You Buy SWISSCASH can you effort ?
FUCK YOUR MOTHER ASSHOLE! “DAMN WRONG”
YOU HAVE INTENTION TO CHEAT PEOPLE HARD EARN MONEY, ON 2ND SEPT YOU ASKED ALL TO THINK POSITIVE, DREAM BIG..BLA BLA…
FUCK YOU AND YOUR SICKED WIFE WHO SELL HER PUKI TO ME, SHE IS SO HOT AND I BET DATO WILL CALL HER SOON TO BED AGAIN.
YOU HAVE INTENTION TO CHEAT AND NOW YOU SHOWED YOUR ANOTHER PERSONNEL NUMBER 6582643103 AND AGAIN YOU USED OTHER PEOPLE CONTACT NUMBER +6591461070 YOU ARE SUCH A HUGE EVIL. YOUR ISLAM HELL IS WAITING FOR YOU.
DO YOU WANT TO KNOW YOUR WIFE ALSO HAVE HER PERSONNEL NUMBER. HER PUKI REALLY LOOSE NOW, GOT FUCKED BY TWO OF US AT PARKROYAL HOTEL LAST WEEK.
YOUR WHOLE FAMILY AND YOUR GENERATION ARE CURSED TO LIVE IN SICK, ILL AND DANGER.
yeah..I agreed with you!
This fucker, hey Dam rong you better watch out every steps you walked out from your door way..
You are so mean now talk fuck here, I will belanja you acid..
You are the most berdosa human on earth, and now you think you will be happy to say a word here.
I bet 12tons lorries, 16wheels are all after you from day now onward.
FUCK YOU DAM RONG, SHAME OF YOUR PARENTS AND FAMILY, THAT WILL NEVER LIVE IN PEACE. BY YOUR NAME ITSELF, ITS A SUCKER NAME.
SWISSCASH close it Reality. why you still LOVE BIG Dream, start today DREAM BIG, Earn more money. dont over Positive, swisscash DIED. it REALITY. Dont Cheathing YourSelf, Please dont jump from PENANG Bridge.
the following message was copy & pasted frm a swisscash blogspot….could be informational to all
Swiss Mutual Fund Alert (30.8.2007)
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Dear all SMF and SC Investors,
Thanks a lot for your patience still being with us and trusting us as your Investing Company. As all of you might heard about bad news in recent days or months about SC, we found our responsibility to inform you about the following matters:
1- In 18.Aug.2007 the Mareva department of Interpol has blocked our servers and websites and locked them all and also all our mirror websites and brought our case to an International court without any documents against us. Just as we were the best HY paying on internet! While we have over 580,000 investors worldwide in over 200 countries.
2- In about 28 months of successful performance of SMF, there is no individual who can claim not receiving payments from us so we had no complaints. But they have blocked access to our websites. So Most of our investors would imagine that we are scammers and disappeared from web and got all their money with us.
3- Here we promise you to be available soon in a different name and policy to serve and support our clients to show our commitment to all of you and this great business.
4- We only ask you to be patient to get good news from our Financial Consultants and local technical Managers and do not trust any news or new websites except what we send you by SMS or email.
5- Our great financial team and traders would start a new age of trading plans for you that no one would even imagine of it.
6- We might use local experts for our financial affairs with a global support.
7- Our new partner promised us to get ready and functional until 15 September to continue this great business in behalf of SMF.
So we strongly ask you not to trust anyone or any other scam websites during this period except our introduced agents. We will announce you by mail or SMS or only through this temporary website.
Thanks a lot for your support and patience
Chief Financial Officer of SMF
Michael Mansfield
Aug.30.2007
I do not buy the offical message from Michael Mansfield.
I will love to see the real offical message from Michael in national news like CNN or USA TODAY or ABC. Not copy and paste from somewhere that we did not normal find !
financial week Tuesday, September 4, 2007
Online scam with a flair for the exotic
Inquiries into Swiss Cash and its mystery CFO lead to international goose chase
By Craig Schneider
April 30, 2007
ROAD TO RICHES? Calls to Swiss Cash’s New York “office” lead to an operator in Pennsylvania directing callers to a slumbering e-mail address. You can say this for Swiss Cash, an online investment firm that sounds too good to be true: It thinks investors are impressed by a CFO title.
According to its website, swisscash.net, Swiss Cash (also known as Swiss Mutual Fund) operates an investment fund that dates back to 1948, has billions of dollars in assets, offers investors returns of up to 300% within 15 months and has been overseen for the past 15 years by a CFO named “Mike Mansfield.”
But government authorities in several countries have warned investors that Swiss Cash is probably a pyramid or Ponzi scheme. In this type of scam, early investors often see sizeable returns, drawing in others. Subsequent investors are paid back (if at all) with their own principal or with that of others they bring in as clients, at least until the fund operator decides to disappear with the money. (The photos of the Mr. Mansfield shown on the website bear no resemblance to the late U.S. Senator and ambassador to Japan of the same name.)
“Anything can be said, promised and advertised on the Internet completely uncontrolled,” the Swiss embassy in Malaysia and Singapore recently advised in a news release about Swiss Cash’s misleading name (the company claims to be incorporated in Dominica.) “It is obvious that this company uses the denomination ‘Swiss’ in an illegal and fraudulent way to attract customers.”
Last year, Malaysia’s central bank and securities commission issued a joint press release warning that Swiss Mutual Fund/Swiss Cash is not licensed or exempted from licensing by the bank.
Attempts to contact Mr. Mansfield or anyone else at Swiss Cash are met with dead ends or more questions. A call to the New York office number listed on the website was redirected to a 24-hour phone receptionist in Pennsylvania who forwarded a request for comment to the company via e-mail (no replies yet) and directed this reporter to check swissmutualfund.biz for more information.
A visit to the site’s physical address on Madison Avenue in New York revealed far less: a mail drop.
Swiss Cash’s affiliated FAQ site explains that the company does not disclose how and where investors’ money is invested. The text on the websites, which include wire service news feeds and stock photos, is no more informative.
Still, the bio of Mr. Mansfield, the purported CFO, launches into a vague sales pitch, asking questions like, “Wouldn’t it be great to simply have enough money so you don’t have to worry?” You bet. But our question would be: Does anybody out there know this guy?
HEY GUYS/GALS Y DUN WE JUS IGNORE DAM RONG, NO POINT TO ANWERE/ARGUE WITH HIM, HE IS JUS AN IMMATURE KID WE WILL ALL WAIT TILL THE 15TH SEPT, WHETHER UP OR DOWN WE HAVE TO ACCEPT IT WHEN THE TIME COME, MEANWHILE JUS KEEP OUR FINGER CROSSED THA ALL WILL B WELL!
HEY GUYS/GALS Y DUN WE JUS IGNORE DAM RONG, NO POINT TO ANWER/ARGUE/CURSE WITH HIM, WE R ALL MATURED ADULTS, WILL ALL WAIT TILL THE 15TH SEPT, MEANWHILE JUS KEEP OUR FINGER CROSSED THAT ALL WILL B WELL!
Anyone has latest news yet.
YEH….SC GULONG TIKAR…..;-)
DONT BE NOTY BE HAPPY
Dear All,
Let us all wait till 15th Sept’2007, till officially
they start website swisscash.net
Only official announcement will satisfy the investors.
Others only speculate their views!
I think swisscash is coming back in great way to establish their branding year 2007 to remember !
Check out another possible swisscash website: http://www.memberswisscash.com/
Is it real?????
http://www.memberswisscash.com does anyone try this website? i check this website and its register in Jakarta is this real?
Does anyone have any news about swisscash?
Thank You…
JUST wait until Sept 15 ! Just be patient ! ! !
There is 50-50 chance to see if Swisscash will be back or not.
So circle 15th on your calender,
Wait and see ! ! ! !
Hi SC investors,
Pls be patient and wait till 15th sep.Don login to any other websites,its all scam.SC will announce by e-mail or sms.So just wait.If you guys still try to login some other website,blame yourself,cause you will not be able to login into SC anymore.Some software experts trying to cheat by stealing SC members login id and passwords…
Take care all..God bless
Hi David,
Seems you are also a most patient person here.
Mind I ask do you know the current price of ACF Fund pricing?
Good Luck to all!!!
http://www.memberswisscash.com is a blog site that updates the status of swisscash website and NOT a swisscash website.
trust me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
USD3.50 p/share.
UNTIL 15SEP EVERYBODY SHUTUP
You are right , SWISSCASH or swiss mutual fund1948 close shop, No more in this world. Comfirm with AMIR HASSAN.
comfirm 100% close mouth. Stop swisscash Forever.
HEY, Chea Bee Choon
You shut up too ! !
How hell do you know SwissCash is closed forever ? Do you have real real prove ?
I do not care about AMIR HASSAN or whoever saying SwissCash is closed.
Then you S-H-U-T U-P until Sept 15th.
SWISSCASH really close shop already. Only the Marketing DIRECTOR : BB NG.(SINGAPOREAN) know anything, please report direct to SINGAPORE AUTHORITY, to catcth this person to JUSTICE.CHEATHING,MALAYSIA, JAMAICAN, CHINA, SINGAPORE ,INDONESIA INVESTOR Money. SWISSCASH DEAD No more SWISSCASH, Please dont wait money DROP from sky. swisscash forever DIED. and create New Billionaire BB NG, Now enjoy money at worldwide.
Spoke to Chea Bea Choon 5 minutes ago exactly…it’s very late in Singapore, but this is important! She did not send this message. Some liar and impostor is using her name. Chea believes the company will come back. I don’t know that for sure, but I am certain that the writer of the message below is a liar and a fraud.
By the way, every other message on this forum claiming to be from her is actually from the impostor. She does not post messages on this site. Interesting.
=====ORIGINAL MESSAGE===========
Author: chea bee choon
Comment:
SWISSCASH really close shop already. Only the Marketing DIRECTOR : BB NG.(SINGAPOREAN) know anything, please report direct to SINGAPORE AUTHORITY, to catcth this person to JUSTICE.CHEATHING,MALAYSIA, JAMAICAN, CHINA, SINGAPORE ,INDONESIA INVESTOR Money. SWISSCASH DEAD No more SWISSCASH, Please dont wait money DROP from sky. swisscash forever DIED. and create New Billionaire BB NG, Now enjoy money at worldwide.
See all comments on this post here:
I know from I read that so called “chea bee choon”, that that individual was an impostor and not the true chea bee choon, serene.
Serene would never have made those statements. I was wondering why if the impostor knows so much details why not make the report to the Sinaporean authority him/herself.
I think we should all wait and see what happens by the 15th Sept. and just relax and think positive because speculating and worrying is not going to change anything. If SC is genuine we will all know in time.
Mujobaby, positive thinker
These naysayers are really confirmed immature & qualified idiots. We are the investors and what more can we lose if we waited til Sep15. We have invested and if SC really is close, we will make report to police and have the real ppl behind bars. We may get back 50c in a dollar. If SC is open, then nothing is lost.
So to these naysayers, get back to your rock!
Hi Folks,
What is Mareva Injunction?
The Mareva injunction (variously known also as a freezing order, Mareva order or Mareva regime), in Commonwealth jurisdictions, is a court order which freezes assets so that a defendant to an action cannot dissipate their assets from beyond the jurisdiction of a court so as to frustrate a judgment. It is named for Mareva Compania Naviera SA v International Bulkcarriers SA [1975] 2 Lloyd’s Rep 509, decided in 1975, although the first recorded instance of such an order in English jurisprudence was Nippon Yusen Kaisha v Karageorgis in 1975, decided very shortly before the Mareva decision; however, in the UK the Civil Procedure Rules 1998 now define a Mareva order as a “freezing” order. It is widely recognised in other common law jurisdictions and such orders can be made to have world-wide effect. It is variously construed as part of a court’s inherent jurisdiction to restrain breaches of its process.
It is not a security (Jackson v Sterling Industries Ltd), nor a means to pressure a judgment debtor (Camdex International Ltd v Bank of Zambia (No. 2)), nor does it confer a proprietary interest in the assets of the judgment debtor (Cretanor Maritime Co Ltd v Irish Marine Management Ltd). However, some authorities have treated the Mareva injunction as an order to stop a judgment debtor from dissipating his assets so as to have the effect of frustrating judgment, rather than the more strenuous test of requiring an intent to abuse court procedure. An example of the former would be paying off a legitimate debt (Iraqi Ministry of Defence v Arcepey Shipping Co SA), whereas an example of the latter would be hiding the assets in overseas banks on receiving notice of the action.
It is recognised as being quite harsh on defendants because the order is often granted at the pre-trial stage in ex parte hearings, based on affidavit evidence alone. A Mareva injunction is often combined with an Anton Piller order in these circumstances. This can be disastrous for a defendant as the cumulative effect of these orders can be to destroy the whole of a business’ custom by freezing most of its assets and revealing important
Mareva injunction
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The Mareva injunction (variously known also as a freezing order, Mareva order or Mareva regime), in Commonwealth jurisdictions, is a court order which freezes assets so that a defendant to an action cannot dissipate their assets from beyond the jurisdiction of a court so as to frustrate a judgment. It is named for Mareva Compania Naviera SA v International Bulkcarriers SA [1975] 2 Lloyd’s Rep 509, decided in 1975, although the first recorded instance of such an order in English jurisprudence was Nippon Yusen Kaisha v Karageorgis in 1975, decided very shortly before the Mareva decision; however, in the UK the Civil Procedure Rules 1998 now define a Mareva order as a “freezing” order. It is widely recognised in other common law jurisdictions and such orders can be made to have world-wide effect. It is variously construed as part of a court’s inherent jurisdiction to restrain breaches of its process.
It is not a security (Jackson v Sterling Industries Ltd), nor a means to pressure a judgment debtor (Camdex International Ltd v Bank of Zambia (No. 2)), nor does it confer a proprietary interest in the assets of the judgment debtor (Cretanor Maritime Co Ltd v Irish Marine Management Ltd). However, some authorities have treated the Mareva injunction as an order to stop a judgment debtor from dissipating his assets so as to have the effect of frustrating judgment, rather than the more strenuous test of requiring an intent to abuse court procedure. An example of the former would be paying off a legitimate debt (Iraqi Ministry of Defence v Arcepey Shipping Co SA), whereas an example of the latter would be hiding the assets in overseas banks on receiving notice of the action.
It is recognised as being quite harsh on defendants because the order is often granted at the pre-trial stage in ex parte hearings, based on affidavit evidence alone. A Mareva injunction is often combined with an Anton Piller order in these circumstances. This can be disastrous for a defendant as the cumulative effect of these orders can be to destroy the whole of a business’ custom by freezing most of its assets and revealing important information to its competitors.
A freezing order will usually only be made where the claimant can show that there was at least a good arguable case that they would succeed at trial and that the refusal of an injunction would involve a real risk that a judgment or award in their favour would remain unsatisfied (Ninemia Maritime corporation v Trave Schiffahrtgesellschaft m.b.H und Co.K.G [1983] 1 WLR 1412).
Source: Wikipedia
El.
Hi folks,
” Swisscash drops off the radar – Friday | September 7, 2007 …”
The URL is:
http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20070907/business/business3.htmlVisit Jamaica Gleaner at http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com
Swisscash drops off the radar
published: Friday | September 7, 2007
Swisscash, an Internet-based investment scheme which advertises itself as a 50-year-old mutual funds company, has disappeared from the radar, Financial Gleaner checks have revealed.
The company, which wooed investments with promised returns of 25 per cent or more per month, has been under the scrutiny of securities commissions in Asia and more recently in Jamaica.
The Malaysian Securities Commission, earlier this year, had secured a worldwide Mareva injunction against Swisscash and its associated companies, freezing their assets and barring them from transacting business, after a civil suit was filed against the investment company in that jurisdiction.
Website down
On Wednesday, Jamaica’s Financial Services Commission (FSC) confirmed it had been receiving calls saying the Swisscash website had closed down. Such persons, said the agency, also wanted to know whether it had any means of contact with the company, whose offices were listed as Madison Avenue, New York in the United States, and Roseau in Dominica. The latter address was given only as a post office box number.
The Financial Gleaner was first alerted on Monday via email by a man purporting to be a Swisscash investor, who said he had been unable to access the websitefor 18 days.
The FSC in July had issued an alert against Swisscash, saying it was not authorised to sell securities in Jamaica, having detected the presence of the high-return scheme.
Information posted on the website prior to its lockdown, suggested that pooled funds are invested in development projects, hedge funds, high-yield investments, the foreign exchange market and other areas, and that this portfolio gives SwissCash returns of 25 per cent to 45 per cent per month from which it pays dividends to investors.
Its targeted principal investment from foreign-based investors was US$10,000 to US$100,000.
The FSC said it would shortly be putting out another public notice about Swisscash.
Regards
El.
Hi folks,
Swisscash drops off the radar – Friday | September 7, 2007 …”
The URL is:
http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20070907/business/business3.html
Swisscash drops off the radar
published: Friday | September 7, 2007
Swisscash, an Internet-based investment scheme which advertises itself as a 50-year-old mutual funds company, has disappeared from the radar, Financial Gleaner checks have revealed.
The company, which wooed investments with promised returns of 25 per cent or more per month, has been under the scrutiny of securities commissions in Asia and more recently in Jamaica.
The Malaysian Securities Commission, earlier this year, had secured a worldwide Mareva injunction against Swisscash and its associated companies, freezing their assets and barring them from transacting business, after a civil suit was filed against the investment company in that jurisdiction.
Website down
On Wednesday, Jamaica’s Financial Services Commission (FSC) confirmed it had been receiving calls saying the Swisscash website had closed down. Such persons, said the agency, also wanted to know whether it had any means of contact with the company, whose offices were listed as Madison Avenue, New York in the United States, and Roseau in Dominica. The latter address was given only as a post office box number.
The Financial Gleaner was first alerted on Monday via email by a man purporting to be a Swisscash investor, who said he had been unable to access the websitefor 18 days.
The FSC in July had issued an alert against Swisscash, saying it was not authorised to sell securities in Jamaica, having detected the presence of the high-return scheme.
Information posted on the website prior to its lockdown, suggested that pooled funds are invested in development projects, hedge funds, high-yield investments, the foreign exchange market and other areas, and that this portfolio gives SwissCash returns of 25 per cent to 45 per cent per month from which it pays dividends to investors.
Its targeted principal investment from foreign-based investors was US$10,000 to US$100,000.
The FSC said it would shortly be putting out another public notice about Swisscash.
Source Jamaica Gleaner
Forwarded by George Tan to me.
Regards
El.
Hi Folks,
Looks like Swisscash is involved in a legal battle for its very survival, now that an international Mareva Injunction has been declared on it. So what can Swisscash do?
Because the websites has been blocked, Swisscash must now create new websites. (shutting a website down by any authorities is not going to be very effective in the longterm as another website can be put up within days. The internet cannot be censored)
Because the Mareva injunction was enforced on Swisscash, REBRANDING by Swisscash is now necessary (new Identity)
The government (you know who) who declared the Mareva Injunction against Swisscash must prove that Swisscash has defaulted on paying the agreed returns to its incestors. Swisscash will engage their own high powered legal minds to argue their case that as of now, all payments have been made. (No case)
This is not the same for the malyasian investors who had their trading account suspended, not by Swisscash, but because of the Mareva Injuntion.
Because once a Mareva Injunction is declared, one’s assets are freezed, in this case affecting the assets of the investors who are citizens of that country.
Regards
El.
Greetings El,
We’re not Malaysian.
What will be our Status ???
Will SC be back by the 15TH Sept; 2007 ???
Rgds
GeoGeo
Greetings GeoGeo,
Your guess is as good as mine.
My personal opinion is YES ! Why am I so sure? I have my own reaons after much analysis.
15th is just a targeted date, it could be earlier or it could be later.
Things may not always go according to plan in real life.
Regards
El.
Do logic work , SWISSCASH real closed forever. friend I also SINGAPOREAN, Please dont jump singapore river.
Hey the fake Chea Bee Chon+6594878070
Hey the fake, You really are sicko, Whynot you tell us the your real damn name.
You should jump the hell boiling river ! ! ! !
SHUT UP your stupid mouth. Your life is really F******ing worthless..
Do not forget to jump the hell boiling water ! ! ! !
If Swisscash is really gone, those people dreg like you must go to jump the Singapore River so that you wont let your friends down!
Hi Folks,
Please see press release below.
It appears that Securities Commission in Malaysia views Swisscash as an investment scams and categorised Swisscash websites as illegal investment websites.
With the same breath, they asked citizens only to invest with parties LICENSED by them.
So perhaps, Swisscash need to consider getting a valid license before operating, so that it does not get entangle with legal issues of any country its investors are in, now that the Securities Commission have taken an international Mareva Injuction against it.
Swisscash, if you are reading this, please consult your lawyers, and eventhough you have promptly paid the returns you promised investors and that they have no case against you, it may not be that simple, as whether you like it or not, eventhough you are an ecommerce organisation, you do need to comply with finacial laws of every country now that you have investors from many countries.
The important thing is that you get a LICENSE to operate an investment fund management services, so that you have the authority to operate legally as determined by that country, so that you can operate in peace, without these people breathing on your back and this will further enhance your reputation as a VALID corporation with teeth to offer financial services without breaking any law of any country.
PLEASE GET IN TOUCH WITH A GOOD LAWYER.
Regards
El.
PRESS RELEASE
Kuala Lumpur , 10 July 2007
Two more investment scam websites blocked, SC obtains international Mareva injunction against Swisscash
The Securities Commission (SC), in collaboration with the Malaysian Communications and Multimedia Commission and CyberSecurity Malaysia (formerly known as NISER), has blocked access to another two websites offering illegal investment schemes to the public in Malaysia.
The two websites, which have been blocked are:
http://www.eaindex.com
http://www.winlifund.com
With this latest move, a total of 10 websites have been blocked thus far. This exercise is an ongoing process, with more websites to be blocked as the SC continues its investigations.
The SC warns that the same action will be taken against ‘mirror’ websites created by operators following the blocking of access to their main websites. Hence, investors who are still participating in illegal Internet investment schemes via these ‘mirror’ websites are advised to withdraw their investments immediately. Investors will not be able to access their accounts once these websites have been blocked.
Meanwhile, in a milestone enforcement action against investment scams, the SC had on 21 June 2007 obtained a worldwide Mareva injunction (Mareva) against persons involved in the Swisscash internet investment scheme, preventing them from disposing their assets in and outside of Malaysia.
The Mareva was sought by the SC following the filing of a civil suit against defendants Albert Lee Kee Sien, Kelvin Choo Mun Hoe, Amir bin Hassan, Dynamic Revolution Sdn Bhd, Swiss Mutual Fund (1948) S.A., SMF International Limited and SMF (1948) International Limited.
The Mareva, which can be viewed here (pdf – 418KB), restrains and prohibits the defendants from:
carrying on the business of Swisscash,
targeting, soliciting and/or collecting funds from the public for investments in Swisscash or any other internet investment scheme, and
hosting or operating the Swisscash websites or operating any other such websites which solicit investments for Swisscash or any other internet investment scheme.
The Mareva also requires the defendants to disclose information pertaining to all their assets in and outside of Malaysia, the companies they have incorporated, and the bank accounts they operate.
The SC secured the Mareva following its investigation on the scheme under the Securities Industry Act 1983 and the Anti-Money Laundering and Anti-Terrorism Financing Act 2001.
The SC will continue to take all measures to combat investment scams including taking appropriate enforcement action against operators and agents of illegal investment websites.
Members of the public are reminded that they should only invest with parties licensed by the SC to be accorded the protection provided under the securities laws. Lists of companies and individuals licensed by the SC to engage in investment activity are available at the SC website.
The public is also advised to refer to the SC’s Frequently Asked Questions: “Do Not Invest in Illegal Internet Investment Schemes” available here.
Hi Folks,
Take a look at the FAQs taken from swisscash website.
And this is before the mareva injunction slapped by the Malaysian Securities Commission
SWISSCASH can no longer ignore international laws just because it is internet based.
Swisscash must be concerned about its investors that are from certain countries that are affected by the respective laws from that country, otherwise Swisscash must not accept any investors from that country from the very beginning.
Simply by saying that “Most financially liberal countries do not prohibit such investments is not enough”.
The actions by Malaysian Securities Commission to not only barr malaysians from accessing swisscash websites but also internationally has repercussions that Swisscash cannot ignore. Because Swisscash websites was taken off, this has affected ALL INVESTORS, not only some investors.
Swisscash cannot afford to ignore that what was once a local issue has now become an international issue.
Dear Swisscash, please get your act together and please consult your lawyers if you have not done so to avoid further problems.
Regards
El.
13.0 Legislation, Legality, Licensing
13.1 Is SwissCash a legal business?
Yes.
13.2 Is investing in SwissCash legal for me?
That would depends on your, and your country’s, judiciary interpretation of legality. Some countries prohibit their nationals from investing in off-shores while others prohibit investment through Internet facilities. Most financially liberal countries do not prohibit such investments. We do not advise our investors to break any law. As far as SwissCash is concerned, it is a legitimate Financial Facility under SwissMutual Fund’s platform for its global investors.
13.3 Is promoting SwissCash Financial Facility a legal activity?
That depends on the rule of the land. We always advise our Fnancial Planners and Consultants who are actively promoting SwissCash to exercise caution and not to hold public meeting or functions unless the law in your country sanctions such moves. Our Terms and Conditions also prohibit investors from “over-promoting,” “over-promising” and “over-advertising.” As much as we appreciate the excitement that is generated by all our investors, we do not want our investors anywhere in the world to face any problems with regulatory authorities.)
13.4 SwissCash is governed under which jurisdiction?
SwissCash is governed under Swiss Mutual Fund’s Terms and Conditions. In return, Swiss Mutual Fund is legally registered in The Commonwealth of Dominica and subjected to its financial legislation.
13.5 Can you provide me with the license number or photocopy of a financial license from a globally recognize financial
13.5 Can you provide me with the license number or photocopy of a financial license from a globally recognize financial market, or any reference of your dealings with PLCs around the world?
Under Swiss Mutual Fund’s Terms of Use for SwissCash’s global investors, we have decided that no such references will be produced and quoted at any time due to management, security and Privacy Policies & Act.
13.6 Can I get references for Swiss Mutual Fund?
No, when you decide to invest in and promote SwissCash, you are governed by the Terms and Conditions of SwissCash. No requests will be entertained for any kind of information pertaining to Swiss Mutual Fund’s dealings and financial matters.
13.7 I tried to search for Swiss Mutual Fund information but could not find any under the Securities Commission/SEC listing.
We do not list our entity directly with SC/SEC.
Please contact my direct handphone +6594878070. I will tell you real story. From Chea Bee Choon.Real Story many stupid Culprit waiting Money Drop from Sky. stupid GUY.
Hey “E”
HAN U CONTACT ME @ cright38@yahoo.com
Thanks so very much.
Hi Folks,
I would like to summarise what has happened so far based on what has been reported
SUMMARY OF EVENTS
Malaysian Authorities received complains from malaysian citizens victims who have been “cheated” of their money by people who are promoting Swisscash.
A civil suit followed.
Malaysian Securities Commission slaps a Minerva Injuntion on Swisscash and informs mlaysians to invest only with those that are LICENSED by them.
Swisscash websites were not allowed to be accessed by Malaysians as malaysian internet service providers were informed to block access.
No Swisscash trading activities allowed in Malaysia
Swisscash announced that it will no longer accept any investors from malaysia (The minerva injunction leaves Swisscash with no choice but to obey the Malaysian SEcurities Commission as Swisscash has no license to operated and provide financial services to Malaysians).
On 18th August, all Swisscash websites were taken off the internet.
We now know that it is because, Malaysia Security Commission has taken one step further to stop not only malaysians in Malaysia from accessing Swisscash, but malaysians who are not in Malaysia to cease accessing Swisscash websites. Malaysian Securities Commission has now slap an INTERNATIONAL minerva injunction.
This affected not only malaysians, but unfortunately ALL investors.
Swisscash was unprepared as it never thought that the INTERNET (its website) can be BLOCKED internationally.
The next course of action by Swisscash is to create new websites and also REBRAND itself. so that it CAN CONTINUE TO SERVE ITS INVESTORS.
Five new domain names has been bought under the name of Michael Mansfield.
The targeted date is 15th September 2007.
Regards
El
PS: Swisscash, I still think you have to get a license to operate internationally offering financial services so that you are not in violation of any laws with regards to offering financial services.
The boundaries have blurred as a result of operating as an ecommerce entity.
Yes, you are more productive as you reduce operating cost by operating from the internet, at the same time, you, Swisscash must ensure that you do have a LICENSE to operate without violating any laws, national or international.
PLEASE CHECK WITH A GOOD LAWYER.
El
Very well written. Unlike those dim witted idiots who wrote non-sensically, I trust that all we need to do is wait til this Saturday. Not long to go!
Thanks Michael,
I like to be of service during these uncertain times faced by Swisscash Investors
One of my dreams is to write professionally and I have a few manuscripts that I am still working on.
Regards
El.
Greetings El,
Bloody informative man.
Let’s look forward to 15th Sept;
Thanks
GeoGeo
Thanks Geo Geo,
Glad to be of service.
Swisscash,
You also have to look into how potential investors can be protected from unscruplous swisscash promoters who collect money without opening trading accounts and running off with the money, whether these people are in China, Malaysia, Philipines etc.
You have to figure out a way so that you can put a stop to many incidents of Swisscash promoters running away with potential investors money, because, again, they will lodge a police report and we are back to square one.
Yes, you Swisscash are not at fault, but the current system does not allow Investors to wire money to you directly to get epoints. Because of this, potential investors hand over their money to Swisscash promoters.
Potential investors, you must make sure that trading accounts are opened in front of you before you hand over money to Swisscash promoters. Get the goods and pay for the goods. End of Transaction. Get it done face to face, with a laptop, on the spot. If the website is down, meet another time, but do not hand over any money until your trading account has been opened.
Regards
El.
Looking at all the comments above, what I feel SWISSCASH will be be back by 15th September’2007.
It seems in Malaysia, many people has cheated innocent people who has become victims of greed for earning fast cash by joining wrong websites promoted by wrong people using swisscash name and swisscash has become target, I think it is absolutely wrong on the part of Malaysia Government, to act so fast and imposing ban on the legal websites of swisscash which is operating internationally. Why all the world has to suffer? because of Malaysian scam.Malaysian government has to fact act very fast now to bring the truth internationaly, since this ban on official website of swisscash.net and sip25.com which was running successfully is not justified.I fully support swisscash, which is Gateway to my Financial Freedom !
BIG DREAM but ZERO. Wait Money from sky.
ZERO talking. BIG Dream but No Result.
well ms. chea,
how come you are sovery much sure that swisscash is gone? Do you have any concrete proofs to support your statements? If so please forward these in the same blog for the benefit of all the Investors. We all shall be greatful to you for this kind act. If it is your own assumption then too do let us know about it. Thankx, Arun
Then Swisscash shld allow ppl to buy epoints thru credit card or by wiring money thru then.
JUST RELAX ,, WAIT UNTIL 15TH.SEP ,, EVRYTHING IS OK
dear xx.xx,
what is the base of your comment? Any concrete source of the information? If you do have pl. share it with us as we all shall be greatful. Thankx Arun
Hello everyone.I’m new here.I’m very worry whether SC will be active back their website or not.SC was a risky investment that i have made in my life.I have found this website http://www.gov.im/lib/docs/fsc/PublicWarnings/dominicaswissmutualfund.pdf and http://www.gov.im/lib/news/fsc/publicnoticeissu1.xml .Anyone of you can have a look.I feel very doubt about
SwissCash right now about sc coming back in operation after seeing this website.Sorry of giving negative comment.I just need to voice my opinion and feel desperate to get back my money.
Ok guys, here is my opinion. Look, first, when SC when missing, people said it’s due to hurricane dean. After 25th August and the website didn’t come back. And people started saying it’s due to changing of server. and after 1 sept, suddenly popped out one mereva injunction or whatever is that. So, after 15th sept, is there anymore news coming up to comfort we investors? who knows up come a “changing of CFO” or “holiday camp for top agents” Ok, i know i’m getting overboard. But i am a SC investor and all these rumors are making me sick. What i want to know is whether SC is coming back. Just a yes or no. If it’s a yes, prove me.. prove us. If it’s a no, let’s move on. No point making us wait like stupid idiots and spreading rumors just to comfort ourselves.
Hey Author scinvestor
I share your concern and I am sure a lot of other investors also share your concerns as well. Nevertheless, none of us investors know exactly what is going on,
we can only assume and basically our assumption can be either negative of positive.
It is therefore my humble opinion that we just wait and see and indeed hope for the best.
One point I am sure of is that while swisscash was online, I have not come across one (1) person who says that they didn’t received their payment.
All other reasons cited online since 8/18/07 of why SC websites were down were never posted on http://www.swisscashguide.com. They were merely reasons that investors speculated to comfort others’ minds. The site swisscashguide.com was created on 8/20/07, two days after the lock down. I would only believe the Mareva Injunction as the one and only one reason why the sites were down as stated on swisscashguide.com. That explains why it takes so long for SC to come back.
A letter from Republic of Dominica’s Financial Services Unit on 3/30/07 verifying SMF was registered in Dominica as an International Business Company of 12/13/1999 and now we have the clarification letter again from the same entity stating the SMF dissolved on 12/13/2006. This does not mean anything. Who knows maybe SMF is registered elsewhere and we will find out later….
I agree with Carlton. When SC was online, no one complaint of not receiving their payments. If SC is not back on by 9/15/07 due to whatever reasons, I am sure there will be posting on swisscashguide.com. ACF should be up for trading on 10/07. I am confident SC will not let us know one way or the other. This lock down is truly a test for all SC investors. Are you truly brave to part with your money?
Dear all worried investor
From what I look at it, all signs and factors showed that SW is a scam and the chances of it returning ny the so called hear say 15th Sep is as good as zero.
Instead of waiting aimlessly, are we should not let those scammers go scoutfree so easily with billions of dollars just like that? Should we do something to make sure those scammers get caught? Instead of doing nothing and keep waiting and waiting..Even 12dailypro’s founders was caught by FBI for illegal ponzi scheme, I don’t believe that those swisscash founders which are highly suspected to be from asia to be able to escape so easily.
Dear Folks,
Reading the comments posted here, I have arrived at one conclusion, and that is that, everyone is different in how they respond to new information.
SOME WILL KEEP REPEATING THE DOOMDAY SCENARIO
SOME WILL RECEIVE THE INFO WITH AN OPEN MIND WITH A WAIT AND SEE ATTITUDE
SOME WILL WANT MORE NEWS NO MATTER WHAT NEWS YOU GIVE THEM, ALWAYS FEELING UNSATISFIED WITH THE INFORMATION RECEIVED
SOME WILL BECOME VIOLENT AND EXPRESS VULGARITIES
SOME WILL TRY TO BE PEACEMAKERS
SOME WILL TRY TO KEEP ON GOOGLING FOR NEW INFORMATION AND CONTINUE TO GIVE REASONS WHY SWISSCASH WILL NOT BE AROUND ANYMORE
SOME WILL REMAIN POSITIVE AND CONTINUE TO REMAIN HOPEFUL
SOME WILL ONLY BE CONVINCED WHEN SOLID PROOF IS GIVEN TO THEM
SOME WILL REMAIN UNCONVINCED NO MATTER WHAT YOU TELL THEM
Perhaps that is what makes the world interesting, yes?
Will Swisscash be around?
Some will gather all the reasons why Swisscash will be around
Some will gather all the reasons why Swisscash will not be around
Who is right and who is wrong?
There are two different camps, both believing that they are right, meanwhile, articles, press release, postings, continue to bombard us, making investors to continue to be hopeful or making investors more confused.
No matter what, Investors will interprete however they want to.
Never has the need to have truthful information be more important than times like this, yes?
And in this information age, never has the need to have timely and accurate information, information that can be verified, more crucial and important than ever before.
It aslo means that humanity cannot have double standards. If truth is important, then all false information must not be condoned.
And as they say, information is POWER. And at the right price, you can even profit from the dissemination of information.
Websites have been purchased under the names of Michael Mansfield.
Who knows? Anybody can purchase website and sumit their name as Michael Mansfield. But the owner need not be Michael Mansfield.
It is during these times, that our ability to question information and to sort information (those that are true from those that are false)beocomes terribly important.
But sometimes, we do not have enough information to form a conclusion, so we continue searching and looking……………..
What is important folks, is that eventhough SWISSCASH operates from an e commerce platform, the true IDENTITY of SWISSCASH is known and Swisscash can be hauled to the international courts if required…………..
and that is important to know for us to prepare our next move……….
Regards
El.
does anybody know whether the website is up?
Hey guys, check out the below link and article posted in the Jamaica Gleaner. Sounds like good news.
http://jamaicagleaner.com/gleaner/20070912/business/business3.html
Swiss Cash re-emerges – ‘Interpol locked us down’
published: Wednesday | September 12, 2007
Swiss Cash has emerged on a new site on the internet, ahead of the September 15 date that chief financial officer Michael Mansfield had given to investors.
Meanwhile, the operators of the high-yielding investment scheme seem to have as many defenders as critics, as indicated in a flood of emails and calls following the Financial Gleaner’s story last Friday saying the website had disappeared.
Message ‘alert’
On the new site accessed by Wednesday Business – http://www.swisscashguide.com – Mansfield in a seven-point ‘alert’ to clients said the original website was locked down in August by the international police, Interpol, but that the company was working with a new but unnamed ‘partner’ to get back online by September 15.
A section of the message reads: “In 18 Aug., 2007, the Mareva department of Interpol has blocked our servers and websites and locked them all and also all our mirror websites and brought our case to an international court without any document against us. Just as we were the best HY (high yielding) paying on Internet. While we have over 580,000 investors worldwide in 200 countries.”
At least two persons said via email they were told the site had been locked down because it had been taken over by hackers. A check on the Interpol website turned up no reference to Swiss Cash., and, up to press time, Interpol had not responded to a request for comment verifying Mansfield’s claim.
But the Malaysian authorities have acquired a worldwide injunction against the company and its associates, blocking disposal of Swiss Cash assets.
Second warning
On Sunday, the Financial Services Commission in Jamaica published a second warning notice about Swiss Cash, in a reminder that the investment scheme was not licensed to do business in Jamaica.
“The FSC has been receiving calls from the public requesting assistance in gaining access to Swiss Cash,” the regulatory agency said. “Callers report that they are unable to gain access to the entity’s website to check on their investment.”
But the FSC also advised that it was unable to assist persons who “knowingly” invest in entities that are not licensed or registered in Jamaica.
One of the emails to The Gleaner, however, said the investor had received his 25 per cent payout for last month, and suggested that the FSC was being alarmist.
Mansfield’s alert also claims that in the past 28 months, there has been no interruptions in the payment of returns, hence there have been “no complaints” from clients.
“But they have blocked access to our websites. So, most of our investors would imagine that we are scammers and disappeared from web and got all their money with us,” said point number two on the alert.
Swiss Cash advertises itself as a mutual fund company operating since 1948 and claims its funds under management will reach US$1 billion this year.
Thanks Jamalee for the scoop
Investigative journalism at its best !
El
Jamalee,
Please, not everything that comes in the Gleaner is gospel and you should publicize. PLEASE INVESTORS DO NOT LOGIN TO THAT http://www.swisscashguide.com website. It is strongly suspected to be a fake site.
Please everybody, just wait until we receive the official announcement from SwissCash itself whether via sms or email about the new website. There are a lot of fake sites abounding. Newspaper reporters do not know the inside story about SwissCash and they just copy stuff from websites and publish.
Be careful how you login to so-called swisscash websites because hackers could capture your login ID and password info and you get messed up.
I am from Jamaica and am wary of the Gleaner’s intention of putting out these articles. I think they should just leave swisscash business alone and let people take their own risks, whatever the consequence.
Because now that this report is published, so many unsuspecting investors are going to login their info and this is not the official website, at least there is no verification for now.
So everybody beware!!!
So apparently the license to offer Financial services in the Commonwealth of Dominica expired on 13 Dec 2006.
Dear Michael Mansfiled,
What happened? Did you forget to renew the licence?
Looks like it is imperative that you get the proper license so that all your investors from all over the world can participate in Swisscash without getting into trouble with the relevant authorities.
Regards
El.
but i thought swisscashguide.com is a fake website?
Greetings to freedom lovers!
It seems that most servers status are ACTIVE and ready to launch. What date do you think the servers will be up and running? Most people says 15th Sep.2007. Is it true? What are their basis? My answer is I don’t think so.
In my opinion, it will not open by 15th.Sep.2007. Most probably the websites will be up and running after 19th.Sep.2007. The Mareva Injunction and the case filed against the three (3) Malaysians SwissCash Financial Consultants will be decided anyday after 19th.Sep.2007. The 90 days freezing of account implemented by the Mareva will also expire on 19th.Sep.2007.
Do you think the above sounds logical to every trader? Will the court’s decision in favor to the three (3) SwissCash Consultants? Just pray folks, that all our waiting will bear fruits. There are few days left the decision of Malaysian court will be known to us. Meanwhile, I also request everyone to focus on their main jobs
Dear Folks,
Operating from the Internet is rather different and different laws apply.
If someone were to remove my website, I can always create another website.
There are so many scam websites on the internet. Why are they still around? Because the relevant authorities cannot monitor each and every scam websites on the internet. They only act when there is a complaint, unless they are so free that they can afford the time to evaluate. But if they do this, where do they start? Alphabetical order? That’s crazy.
Also, to haul someone to court, you must have a complainant, without a complainant, there is no case. Therefore if the authorities come across a scam website, but the victims decided to suffer in silence, no action can be taken against the con artist concerned.
Given the constraints that Swisscash now faces as their websites were removed, what can they do? Please make an intelligent guess. I cannot reveal due to security reasons.
If you are in trouble with the authorities, and the authorities have posted your pictures everywhere, in order to escape attention, what will you do? Put on a wig, etc, to make yourself unrecognisable, am I correct?
So what can Swisscash do?
Please make another intelligent guess and I cannot reveal this, due to security reasons.
Please be careful whatever you post here, as this forum is visited by Hackers, Government authorities, news reporter, interpol police, etc
Regards
El.
Thankx
Arun,
So basically you are saying the website WILL be up in September, regardless of the date it appears?
Yes !
does it not seem logical? Well for us Swisscash is a matter of some dear bucks But for Swisscash people? It is aquestion of MILLIONS of $. As far as the mareva Injunction is concerned the logic presented above is enough. SWISSCASH should come By ALL means!!
That is my assumption.
Well dear mujobaby,
If you kindly permit may I ask one question?
How man $ have you Invested With Swisscash baby?
iam meysam:i need the news from swiss cash.i am very very…
Arun,
I invested personally $1K and made it back MULTIPLE times!So that is why I am remaining optimistic because I would love for all my downlines who came in to make back their monies.
I think September will be a month to remember!
SC IS DEAD NO POINT WAITING ..MOVE ON…
Hey SC,
How hell do you know that Sc is dead ?
You shut up !
I HAVE LATEST NEWS FROM MY FRIEND IN JAMICA HE TOLD ME SWISSCASH WILL BE UP REDY AND FUNCTIONAL BY 16th SEPTEMBER 2007
Hi, Aiysh
Is it TRUE …? plz tell our about sc online
my email idha@big.net.id
ITS ALREADY 15TH !!! ANY WEBSITE ???????? THEY ARE JUZ BUYING OUR TIME…NO POINT WAITING!!! MOVE ONNNNNN.
a few hours any we’ll know ya guys? if it’s not coming back, let’s move on. i’m sure u people know how to manage finance…know how to make money and all that. let’s work towards it. work towards financial freedom ourselves. if it really come back, then let’s move forward together! good luck guys!
does any website exist?is sc a scam?what happen plz tell our about sc
Whats the new adress of swisscash?
What about our investment?
hey guys, about 3 next hours it will come back, i hope,
lets pray for that together.
8/18 to 9/15 mean seem like a long time to SC investors but it’s really a short time if SC wants to work through defrosting the injunction… It’s not a question of if SC will comeback, it’s a question of WHEN can SC come back AFTER working all the problems… Even with new sites, there is no guarantee the new websites will not be blocked AGAIN… with the freezing of the assets, how is SC going to pay the investors…
so if 9/15/07 comes and go, look for 9/24/07–court appearing date for Amir Bin Hassan’s case in Malaysian court….
I believe strongly SC will come back, it’s a matter of when…
SC management, SC investor around the world are willing to wait for the company to work out all problems, just let us know by posting on http://www.swisscashguide.com to inform us if the system does not allow you to email the investors…
Hi everyone,
SC has made billions of dollars from poor investors around a world. I understand SC is set-up by Malaysia and Singaporen mafia no doubt. The reason i say because it was operate by mafia from this two country the dealer selling epoints are from Malaysia and Singapore. So they try to give you excuse server down and upgrading of server.Look at lates news from http://www.bernama.com.my about Malaysian Security Commission charging 3 crooks from SWISSCASH.The case againts them will be held on the 24th Sept 2007. Again look back the past history SC was started from Malaysia, Singapore and Indonesia. That’s why they locked all their SIP1300 into ACF share. Again i may wrong to say this please comment. Again Regional Directors are appointed by Swisscash and now all the regional director are hiding. What they doing now? Example MR B.B.ANG.
Nowdays harry, tom and dick can buy HYIP software for just US299.00 and you can hire domain for US10.00 so you can make billions. One good example is http://www.pioneerprofund.com claim to be TAKAFOL, HALAL, AND ISLAMIC base fund almost 99.99% similar to SWISSCASH registered at BAHAMAS. I look inside the website i noticed all the Malaysia and Singapore banks are there. I’m sure this is another scam going to wipe out a few millions or billions dollars from inocent investors around world. Please investor do not trap to this scam.
Investors, I notice some new update on http://www.swisscashguide.com. What you all make of it?
I mean, I am wary of everything everywhere now. So give your opinions.
Now can any body clear one Issue – swisscash (original) hails fom Malasia Or Roseau? some people here are saying Malasia Whereas Some Jamaica ? Why is there so much of confusion regarding the issue?
Hi Folks,
Updates from Swisscash website http://www.swisscashguide.com
Dear ex-SC Investors, Financial Planners and Consultants:
I feel so proud to share with you that within the past 28 months we had achieved so many outstanding milestones.
1. Our E-banking/Online Facilities has improved tremendously almost every month.
2. We have launched our International prospectus earlier than imagined.
3. We have achieved to the record of even more than USD300 million investment funds in one month. (In comparison to other mutual funds or
offshore businesses it is really great)
4. Investors from many countries had put their trusted money on our Financial Facility for the past 28 months.
More milestones had been set for the year 2007-2010. A year, in my point of view would be a very important and positive for the growth of a
Financial Facility. I wanted to share with all of you my vision for the year 2007-2010 in a special announcement, but?
As of now, we are obliged to discontinue this great financial facility due to many fake legal problems, so we have given our total strength and
facilities to a new partner to continue this wonderful and extra-ordinary business for you and they are so busy planning for the new website
that is to be launched in 9 phases from September to October 2007 that will comprise of a few major changes of products and strategies.
I hope you can feel the excitement and positive energy of this new team throughout this time as well as the coming years as you are introducing
this great opportunity to your friends and associates in your region.
Successful people know how to take action ? the bigger the better. The simple decision to take action creates energy and gives life and
momentum to your business. This energy to make things happen in turn attracts people, as it is a rare commodity, and people are attracted to
your energy and action.
The most successful people know that “DO NOTHING is WORSE than doing something, even if “something” turns out to be the wrong thing. You are
better taking any action rather than none at all. You will LEARN NOTHING FROM DOING NOTHING. Doing something will at least teach you one more
way, not to achieve the outcome you want”
So what is the next step? This crisis is coming to an end with all my group and company efforts in the next few days; just focus on the other
new resolutions and you will believe again that our financial facility is one of your main priority in your life.
As we have promised you before we have arranged with our new partner for something new without any person of the previous team. Now the new
platform is ready and they are in the process of integrating the old members? data with the new platform. Great thanks to all our investors for
their being patient and trusting us, so we promise them to keep their funds in work with the power of this new partner.
So please wait for the new team to contact you only via email or SMS to introduce you the new platform. They have all data about all ex-SC
investors with full privacy. You can confidentially trust them as you trusted us. They have your principal Money which where in our trading
system. Again Thanks for your patience.
The last message from,
Michael Mansfield
Chief Financial Officer (SMF)
15-September-2007
Dear Folks,
Anybody who wants to know the indepth reason why it is stated “The last message from Michael Mansfield” please email to me privately at selfmasteryint@pacific.net.sg
I cannot post the analysis here, dur to security reasons
Regards
El.
I got the word from other upline………
Please read the following :
Dear all SC investors;
It has come to our attention that some fake websites claimed to be a part of SwissCash or
SMF.
Please do not enter your login data (username, ID, password, TAP, DOB) or any personal
information in these
sites. Here is the list of some of these fake websites.
Swisscash-apo.com
Swisscash25.net
Swisscash25.com
Swisscash25.biz
Swisscash-eu.biz
Swisscash-eu.net
Swisscash-eu.com
Chinaswisscash.com
E-swisscash.com
The new website URL from our new partner would be sent only to our main financial
consultants in any region shortly.
So please do not trust any weblog, website or any unauthorized person.
Everythings Is OK at the END
If it’s NOK , it’s not the END
Best Regards – a/m
el, but the message u pasted here from mansfield is not in swisscashguide.com. the one in the website is dated back on aug 30th.
Julian
Check your browser
Regards
El.
its better go to work than speculating swisscash. swisscash is scam, with fuck promise. I want to tell u all the truth, the web is making bye top leader from australia (i can’t tell u the name because security reason). swisscash is MR haji Amir bin Hasan (malaysia), he is the one of team that making E-point virtual from swisscash HYIP software. thats why his e-point never out of stock. Mr.Amir(live in Manchester) is very rich now. Sorry to tell u all the truth.
The malaysian government has freeze all his bank account and the passport has been hold by the court, so how can he stay oversea in manchester, its not logic, isn t it?His house is in kuala lumpur, his neighbour is my friend and he tolds me that, now mr amir cannot go over sea because the passport is now kept by the court case.Thk
Dr Teddy Susanto, Thank You Your REAL Info, I believe until today Many stupid Investor still waiting money drop from sky. this 24/sept/2007 AMIR Bin Hassan will not comeback to Malaysia. BB Ng the Money Cheathing Culprit now missing at SINGAPORE, the key person I know who are the culprit now at Australia. SWISSCASH gone forever,and we made above fucker been richy now enjoy the investor money at worldwide.
Hi, Doc! If you have a valid evident, please publish what you have posted here to your downlines in Indonesia officially for many investors has relied on you. Don’t let us wait in vain and hide behind your new business. Be a man, finish what you have started.
Let us get exicited only when we really get oppurtunity to invest again and earn as we did.
Please inform if anyone knows the status correctly.
There is no point in beating the bush.
Members are now really losing patience.
Swisscash coming back ????????????????????? or ZZZZzzz
This question is directed to Top Swisscash leaders or any SC investor who may have the answer.
Have you or anybody you know ever met Michael Mansfield face to face?
I appreciate any feedback to confirm my analysis. Thank you.
Regards
El.
Hello EI
hanzahar is the guy who clame to be one of the swisscash agents appointed and he personaly met Michael Mansfield. he posted his blog sit at WordPress.com but(suspended for a violation of the Terms of Service). he is very informative guy too.
you can try to e-mail him;
hanzahar@gmail.com
Thanks for the info.
What is claimed and what is true are two different things
Regards
El.
Hi El
Excuse me, I have no idea who is the real Michael Mansfield,
I do not know if Michael is real ? I am SC investor myself, However Who is the real Michael Mansfield himself ?
He is hardly to be in public to expose people to get know. Maybe he is not Michael Mansfield, ?
What is more the pictures of SC staffs has N-O-T been changed or updated for a long time. Are they Amercians or swissians or malaysian ? So who are the real SC staffs.
I have a question for El, DID you meet the real Michael Mansfield in person ? Please awnser the question for everyone’s sake ! !
Thanks, Dave
Dave,
Please see my latest comments.
Regards
Your comments are quite similar to my conclusions. Dig deeper and you might find some insights.
Let me give you a clue. The english written alledgedly by MM (Michael Mansfield is atrocious, and for a CEO, it is ………….questionable ???
Red flags up please
Regards
El.
Dave
You have asked all the right questions.
The asnwer is at the tip of your tongue.
Regards
El.
Hi El,
None of investor seen Micheal Mansfield personally. We just saw his message. If the company making millions of money normally the CEO will visit all the region and get to know the investor. I’m doubt there is any one called by the name of Micheal Mansfield. But every one know Mike Tyson not Micheal Mansfield.
I have one simple question any one can answer this please? Dealer and regional director are appointed by the company. This people trading e-points from the company and dealing in millions of dollars. How come they don’t know who is the head of SC?
Good question.
Probe deeper and ask more questions and certain things do not add up.
Regards
El.
smf and sc is come back…15sep-30oct
Dear Folks,
Many of you have written to me personally wanting to know about the last message from Michael Mansfield.
As I was preparing a reply to all of you, I was cautioned by well meaning SC investors that anything that I reveal might indirectly assist the Securities Commission in their case against Swisscash and might also put Swisscash in an unfavourable light.
There are two main issues that need to be highlighted.
Number One.
That most investors have received their monthly 25% returns.
In this context, SC is genuine.
Number Two,
Who is actually running Swisscash? There is a lack of transparency.
In this contact, there are a lot of question marks.
My analysis was about issue number two. I wanted to share my analysis with you, but as my report may jeopardise and affect the process of the return of Swisscash in a different format, it is better that I do not. My sincere apologies. You wouldn’t want me to jeopardise any chances of Swisscash coming back, do you? I believe the answer is, yes, you do not want that to happen.
Most of you want to know whether SC will come back.
I will say yes. Now this is my opinion and conclusion, as I have to piece informations that are scattered everywhere.
Yes, it is possible that delaying tactics were employed. But the general intention is to come back.
That is the good news, in my opinion.
Dear Folks,
On another note, let’s just say that Swissscash disappear, together with our principal (very very unlikely), what can we do?
We can make a police report, so that, the authorities can investigate and like I mentioned before. the authorities will only investigate when there is a complaint.
We may not truly know who is actually runnning Swisscash, but the authorities together with their resources, are able to determine who they are, easily.
Regards
El.
El,
It seemed that you know slightly more than most average SC investors do. Minus those tight-arsed dim witted idiots who kamikaze-ed SC who never invested a cent. But where is the proof El?! and reliability?! One said until Sep15 and another said today but still no show. Show us the money!! Or talk the talk, now do the walk the walk!
Hi Michael,
My analysis are just piecing together of informations and putting two and two together and are conclusions that are probable but never proven beyond a shadow of doubt. That is not what I intended to convey, that I am going to give the proof.
Regards
El.
If that’s the case, why don’t those investors report swisscash to the authorities ASAP so as to have higher chances of nabbing those Swisscash funds operators..?
Becasue at this point of time, most believe that Swisscash will come back under a different name and they would like to give Swisscash the grace period they mentioned.
Again for those who prefer not to wait, there is nothing to prevent them from going to the relevant authorities.
Regards
El
Swisscash is sleeping for a long time. Lets change to another internet buisness. Anyone know how to play forex…
Critical thinking is very important.
Sorting through the mass of information and deciding what is relevant or not requires some skills
Reading between the lines are important too.
The ability to research and arrive at a well defined conclusion is important and if one can do this by oneself, one will not be misled by others.
We are all given the ability to investigate, reason and determine what is appropriate or not, true or false, right or wrong.
It is time to trust our own judgement.
It is time to give ourselves permission to think, permission to believe in our ability to think.
There is too much reliance on what others are thinking, looking for answers outside ourselves.
Believe that you can investigate and arrive at your own answers with no need to have your answers validated by others.
It is time to stand on our own two feet, to believe that we have the resources to navigate this world eventhough so many red herrings are thrown at us.
well El,
truly said by u we all have to analyse on our own the true & false
One question to all — DOES A SCAM CO. I mean a co. who wants to run away with all the money :-
1- takes so much care to iform the investors that they are going in for an alternative co with all the principal to be shifted with due care;
2- will run away in the middle of the month — why not on the 1st or 2nd (with the max no. of closings) and the bonus yet to be paid.
3-will come forward and address th e Investors as EX- SC investors….. (GREAT COURAGE!!)
I would like the people of the Forrum to pl. answer to my Query
Thankx
Arun
Goood questions Arun.
EL.
As mentioned, there are 580,000 Swisscash investors, imagine how powerful we all are.
Swisscash,
Do not underestimate our strength as a group.
Treat us with respect and we can propel you, Swisscash, to grow and expand even further, beyond your wildest imagination.
Take heed. Take caution. The lines have been drawn.
DECIDE AND CHOOSE and DECIDE.
Daer all Swisscash Investors,
Dear Swisscash/New Identity of Swisscash
As a group,
We are not weaklings,
We are not powerless,
We are not lost,
We are not confused,
It is time to rise to the occasion.
It is time to unite and make a stand, that we are to be treated seriously and that we are willing to work with Swisscash and make Swisscash grow like no other, that is if Swisscash or its new identity want to treat us seriously.
We are committed as long as Swisscash is committed, to make Swisscash the vehicle for the small players to achieve financial freedom, which normally was only reserved for the very rich.
We are committed, as long as Swisscash uphold its integrity, and operate legally, to work with Swisscash and to bring in a new era of abundance for everyone, where nobody on Earth should live in poverty, because of Swisscash and because of what it offers, through the power of each and every investor, to share and bring good tidings to one and all.
It is time to be united as one.
You have my permission to copy and paste this comment and post it all over the blogs on the internet, to share this new beginnings..
Today, is a new beginning, a new dawn has arrived…………
Marching forward as the battle cry has been sung….
El,
I want to speak to you, please gmail me.
El,
can we chat on yahoo messenger
my Id is arunmehrotraa
Hi Arun,
We can try
Regards
El
hi dear el,
I am so vory
do you think the swisscash is spam co?
please tell me.
i am sory , i can not speak inglish very well.
thanks el.
i am from iran.
http://www.swisscash-tehran.blogfa.com
http://www.swisscashguide.com
So please wait for the new team to contact you only via email or SMS to introduce you the new platform. They have all data about all ex-SC
investors with full privacy. You can confidentially trust them as you trusted us. They have your principal Money which where in our trading
system. Again Thanks for your patience.
And who is this trustworthy person who told you? Or is he just a regional rep?
PEOPLE, DO NOT TRY TO LOG ONTO http://www.swisscashguide.com/ or any other site you see emerge, they are HACKERS. GET INFO FROM RELIABLE SOURCE
Hi mr E THANKS FOR YOUR COMMENT
Mr Sheikh,
Absolutely, the pleasure is mine and you are welcome
Regards
EL.
Dear Members
The last message from Mansfield dated 15th September 2007 addresses the investors in a typical way “Dear ex-SC Investors, Financial Planners and Consultants”. What does it mean? Swisscash is no more in existence?
It further says “As of now, we are obliged to discontinue this great financial facility due to many fake legal problems, so we have given our total strength and facilities to a new partner to continue this wonderful and extra-ordinary business for you and they are so busy planning for the new website that is to be launched in 9 phases from September to October 2007 that will comprise of a few major changes of products and strategies.” The story continued with more details of a new team “without any person of the previous team”, and also “they have your principal money which where in our trading system”.
Now, if and only if Mr. Michael Mansfield has come out today with the news that in 9 phases new sites are to be developed and the principle amounts and other data are to be shifted to the new sites, and then some more questions are on the way.
First, the Swisscash without Michael Mansfield, CFO of Swisscash! Secondly, a new site with new team and finally only the principle amount to be credited to the investors’ accounts!!
We do not know whether they are crediting the ‘returns’ accrued, the balances with the investors or only the invested principal or both. What happens to the promise of 25% credited to the SIP accounts? Where are those epoints?
When this new site will appear? Again who gives the guarantee-Swiss Mutual Fund (1948)? When it is no more who gives the guarantee?
Earlier on 30th August 2007 Mr.Mansfield promised that the swisscash sites would start working from 15th September 2007. Now, again, Sept-Oct, 9 phases new story? Is it a time buying strategy? How to believe the new version of this story?
If the Mansfield message is true….Swisscash has gone!
One more thing, if it is because of Malaysian Mareva injunction and if Swisscash is having a strong legal department why it has not gone to obtain a stay.
Come on Michael. Why can’t you go to International Court of Justice to lift the Mareva injunction procured by Malaysian Securities Commission?
Why not I suggest that we all make a comittee and then we make meeting among all the investor thru this forum and make decision. I suggest the decision to be make is as what you were saying” to lift the Mareva injuction procured by the Malaysian Government.
And also better to involved mr amir of malaysia, I have many friends that knows where mr amir stay.If mr amir didn t want to co operate then, I suggest we lodge a police report and give him a notice of demand. What do you think, is it okay or not. Thanks
Good idea! Firstly, we shld all move out from this forum and someone starts a new blog elsewhere and we all move to there.
A constuctive idea
EL
Heal! SC! Heal! SC!
Wait till it FINALLY, DOUBLE, TRIPLE CONFIRM, it’s GONE!!!
Members,
It is reported that on 14.09.2007 apart from three websites blocked http://www.swisscashguide.com has been ordered to block
So don’t get shocked !
You can check the edgedaily report from this link:
http://www.theedgedaily.com/cms/content.jsp?id=com.tms.cms.article.Artic...
All learned members please comment!
Hi everybody,
Many people said several things about SC,
it means no one know about that truely.
Why don’t you trust to ” swisscashguide ” ??
All of us are worried about our money, but don’t trust to every word,
what reason is there that sc give us still some information?
think, you have collected this great amount of money , and you whould like to run away, do you explain about yourself yet?
I only know that repairing needs long time.
Be Patient!! and Dont TRUST EVERY WORD!!!
It is very clear from the words and phrases used in Michael Mansfield last letter, that Swiss Cash will not be returning.
Firstly from the manner that the message was written, I can conclude that there is no such person as Michael Mansfield. Someone who holds an esteemed position in a billion dollar industry, would not have written a letter so vague, poor sentence construction and with grave grammatical errors.
No apology is offered, no clear reasons given for the cessation of the website, no contact details and worst citing a point in their terms and conditions that they are entittled to act in such an irresponsible behaviour is just diabolical.
Yes, investors are upset and rightly so. The Swisscash Management owes every investor a good explanation for their irresponsible behaviour and to return what is rightfully not theirs.
Remember what goes around comes around, and if you think that you have got away with investors money, you still have to face our maker. Remember you have family members yourself and what you have done to others, will one day be done unto you or your family.
You will never sleep well.
Sorry to be negative. The new partner may not start the supposedly new website and the blame has been passed from M Mansfield to the new phantom partner …. but who is this new partner????? No new partner has risen to claim this new partnership at all. Could we have been duped? In current position, I am certain 60% we are duped. Lets move on to get M Mansfield to the authorities, the one who no one knows or have met at all!
Well put Michael. With each passing day, we feel it is lost cause or hope. In the corporate world, no new partner would come in if 1)the company, in this Swisscash, is in the bad light with the authorities, 2)take over from a huge commitment, ie 25% ayment per month, 3) without giving re-assurances to the ‘ex-SC investors’, 4)whenever a partnership is established, the old CEO 99% wld mention the new company name or the new incumbent CEO. What MM has done is passing the baton to another phantom. From one phantom to another! We are evenly more confused. We have been manipulated and naysayers are too impulsive whilst the analyst have been stringed along to the cliff. All these and still no proof of anything at all.
The web site i.e. http://www.swisscashguide.com is a fake site as the section “About SwissCash” in the middle of the front page points to http://www.swisscash25.net which clearly states on the front page is a scam site.
So here we have one site pointing to a scam site, what are people suppose to think ?
That the information provided on swisscashguide is genuine because it says so ?
Common sense prevails. If this site points to another site which is obviously a scam site, then the information provided on the first site is hardly credible.
U are absolutely right. That’s mean swisscashguide.com is confirmed a scam website too. If not how come “about swisscash” can point to swisscash25.net?
From what I see, it is better for all investors to report to their respective authorities about being conned by “malaysian swisscash”. I personally believed that SC or so called SMF was started by a group of malaysians ans slowly from there go worldwide.
The previous website of swisscash are
http://www.swisscash.net
http://www.sip25.com
http://www.swissmutualfund.biz and
http://www.scmutualfund.com
and not http://www.swisscash25.net
http://www.swisscash25.net appeared after the four swisscash websites were taken down
http://www.swisscashguide.com is correct to refer http://www.swisscash25.net as a fake website
Regards
EL>
Hi Nizam, good idea and willing to join. Rgds
El,
We feel very negative towards SC. Any re-assuring comments with proof?
Dear Michael,
I am going to give you an area of enquiry for you to focus on.
You must ask the question why on the 18th of August, all Swisscash websites were down.
Is it because Swisscash dissapeared or is it because their websites were blocked?
Why were the websites down?
Who was responsible to remove the websites?
What was the purpose for removing the websites?
What were the parties concerned wanted to achieve by removing the websites?
From here you can deduce what Swisscash intentions are.
Regards
EL
Hi dear Michael and Thomas
Suppose that SC is gone forever.
when I started my investment, I predicted that my money may be lost, but that time I decided to invest, because my leader had sold his house for investing in SC, and now he’s got two house.I’ve gotten all of my basic investment money, if sc returns,I will get the first real benefit.
All of real investors know, when they invested, they knew the level of its risk. It’s a network business and you don’t know where is your money?, where is SC?
is M Mansfield real person or virtual?
This is the property of business , it isn’t cooking.
you may win or you may lose.If you bought any stock before, you can understand my attitude now.
I hope SC comes back,
Dear friends, we have got only patience, this is one of important factors that bussiness needs it.
I read SC will sit on court at 24 Sep , be hopefull that it’s becoming free.
your friend Amir.
(sorry for my grammatical fails)
swisscashguide.com is confirmed a scam. pls see below…for proof…
U are absolutely right. That’s mean swisscashguide.com is confirmed a scam website too. If not how come “about swisscash” can point to swisscash25.net?
From what I see, it is better for all investors to report to their respective authorities about being conned by “malaysian swisscash”. I personally believed that SC or so called SMF was started by a group of malaysians and slowly from there go worldwide.
If u need any more info on swisscash, kindly email me kelvinngpw@gmail.com
The previous website of swisscash are
http://www.swisscash.net
http://www.sip25.com
http://www.swissmutualfund.biz and
http://www.scmutualfund.com
and not http://www.swisscash25.net
http://www.swisscash25.net appeared after the four swisscash websites were taken down
http://www.swisscashguide.com is correct to refer http://www.swisscash25.net as a fake website
Regards
EL.
I think you have missed out on the main point.
The Swisscashguide front page has a direct link to swisscash25.net.
Check it out for yourself.
It’s located at the link “About SwissCash” in the middle of the front page.
If you place your cursor over the link, you will see that it points to swisscash25.net
Now since swisscash25.net is listed as a fake or scam site, what is one suppose to think when there is a link from swisscashguide pointing to that fake site ?
Something to ponder I guess.
My opinion is that swisscashguide is also a fake/scam site which means that SwissCash as we all know it is gone. Permanently. No conjecture here.
I have placed my cursor on the link “ABOUT SWISSCASH”, however, I did not see any pointing to http://www.swisscash25.net
Either I dont know where to position my cursor (and I have tried positioning it all over the page, just to be sure)or it did not show up on my side.
EL.
Hi Dean /Kelvin….whoever you are.
I have a suggestion for you….u seem to know lots…
You need to prove you are right, just make a report to the Authorities yourself , 1st , post the report/s on this site for all to view.(if u r an investor of cos)
I believe ,many of us will follow your lead.
Don’t shit around please, cos an idiot you don’t even reply my mail.
Most viewing this will agree with me.
Cheers…show me your guts man(if u r)
GeoGeo
you are right.. Swisscash is definetely a biggest Scam in the world. My friend just went to NY office last week. the security told there is no such company.
we got to report this to FBI..BB Ng, Serene Chia ..got to watch out your back..
Hi Dean & all,
I’m first time here. Just need some explanation to your latest post above. I checked the swisscashguide.com, but still don’t find the part of that points to swisscash25.net in the “About Swisscash” section. Where lah?? Help me a little, perhaps I’m not that’s sharp or perhaps poor eyesight.
I do agree though, that the information on the site is in very poor English. But this seems to have been so all the while even when SC was up and running via swisscash.com and swisscash.net. Did not anyone notice it? Can’t they get someone better to put up the site and then get someone to proofread it first before finally posting it? Where is professionalism in such a multibillion dollar organization?
Perhaps the problem is, when we are getting our profits regularly, no one bothers to question seriously these seemingly minute details. Now, after the bomb has fallen, every nitty gritty thing is scrutinized. Typical humans … we all are!
Yet, we are still in the DARK!!!
Dear Swisscash investors,
Some of the comments posted declared with confirmed conviction that Swisscash has dissapeared.
Please read all comments crititically, because this forum is visited by all kinds of people, from Swisscash competitors to others with their own agendas.
They can put forward their views, but to say with full conviction that Swisscash has gone and are not coming back without any shred of evidence is misleading.
Read, but with discernment.
Do not be led by people who are not qualified to do so.
Do not allow your nose to be pulled by conjectures of all kinds.
Regards
EL.
El,
You sound the most sensible person on this forum, I wanna share some information with u in private. can you login to my pesonal Yahoo messengerID arunmehrotraa?
Arun,
I will try, however, I may not be online most of the day time
EL.
Hi Gang, Someone posted the below to me, do u know anything about it?
Hi, i received the new website address for swiss cash they changed the name totally swish to this site:
Pioneerprofund financial.com. All going well this you will know the status of your account by this afternoon. Hurray thank you for your patience.
i hope i get back my money soon!!!!!!!!!
Jamalee
Jamaican
jamalee,
dear friend did you go through this site?
Are you convinced that the site you have mentioned is a alternative site of swisscash.. Well I have gone through the site but do not find that it could be the site of swisscash
Any way thanks for your optimistic approach, kindly tell us from where you got this information ?
Thankx
Arun
Guys, Another update from my upline,
Swiss cash has merged with Pioneerprofund financial, which is now offering a fluctating rate of 8 – 30 Precent per month.
Sorry guys but the real original swiss cash is dead, just read that the site and u will get all the info.
Am very sad cause i invested $4000.00 didnt get a cent and harldly gonna get any returns.
Am done with this, best of luck.
Jamalee
Jamaican
hey Jamalee did u attempt to log into this new site?
Me too. Discovered that if you point the cursors and double click on the “About swiscash” on swisscashguide.com, you will be directed to swisscash25.net immediately. The question is if swisscashguide.com is a genuine website, how come the website can be linked to swisscash25.net as what claimed or listed on by the authentic swiscashguide.com’s website? something fishy????
I pointed my cursor and double click on the “ABOUT SWISSCASH” on http://www.swisscashguide.com, however as far as what happened over at my side, I was not directed to swisscash25.net
Regards
EL.
Dear EL,
It happened the same with me, I also was NOT directed to swisscash25.net
Arun
Good Morning El,
Nothing happens to my double clicks too on the “about swisscash”
Geo
Hi guys. It does direct you to swisscash25.net actually. The “About Swisscash” they are talking about is not the one at the top of website. Once you get into http://www.swisscashguide.com, scroll down and there will be another “About Swisscash” in the middle of the page. And that one is directed to swisscash25.net.
Rgds
hi DB9.
i checked the website after u claim that t has a direct link to swisscash 25, but i never found anything.
i think u have made mistake, or u wanna disappoint us.
I’m sure SC will come back.
with best regard : Amir
P.s : but we have to be more patient !;)
Amir,
I don’t think u followed my directions properly. Please read carefully WHICH “About Swisscash” link i am talking about. The MAIN “About Swisscash” link will not direct anyone to swisscash25.net but the link in the middle of the main page does.
So kindly be sure to check properly before making any accusations about me trying to dissapoint you. I just posted the procedure to inform all. I cant be bothered to try to play mind games with any of you.
P.S I am hoping myself that SC will be back!
Yes, when clicked on About Swisscash, it gets directed to swisscash25.net
It is hereby confirmed that swisscashguide.com is fake and we are all fools !
Let us all join together to fight against swisscash and support securities commission of Malayasia.
Please confirm this.
Hello Members
At present there is news in air that swisscash has been merged with http://www.pioneerfund.com
All swisscash members will get official information thru e-mail/sms ?
Can anyone confirm this news.
sorry, website to read as http://www.pioneerprofund.com
Dear Ravindra,
Could you kindly inform me where did you get the news from.
From what i look at it, this pioneerprofund is another similar type of ponzi scam trying to imitate swisscash system or concept or they are actually belonging to the same group of scammers trying their luck again.
I would advise all investors to be vigilant cos it will definitely turns out to be swisscash in times to come just like SMF or swisscash.
Ask yrself this question..After offline for 33days without $$ coming in, do u think they will continue to pay and ultimately go on line again? It is alomost impossible. Don’t waste yr time waiting just make a police report as soon as possible.
For me, I had already filed a police report in NYPD already.
Ravindra,
Yes. Get news from swisscash but when..? 2099 or 2199?. It won’t happens. SC already gone for 1mth plus..yet those die hard investors still think it will come back.So stupid to con just like that.
The link “About Swisscash” that takes you to swisscash25.net is found after you finish reading the Michael Mansfield message and scroll down and you will see the heading “About Swisscash” above a picture with some people. This is the heading that is being referred to and NOT the one at the main heading at the top of the page with the yellow banner.
Just follow my instructions, point the cursor to “About Swisscash” and you will see “www.swisscash25.net” showing in the left corner of your screen and if you double click the heading the page takes you to http://www.swisscash25.net.
Hope this makes it clearer El and Arun and the others who have not discovered it.
Dear Mujobaby,
I have followed your instructions exactly and what I saw is swisscashguide.com and not swisscash25.net
I am not saying that you are not telling the truth, what I am saying is that I am getting different results from you.
Regards
EL
HI Dear Investors
DO Not Believe Every Words.
There Is Not Any Link to ” swisscash25.com “, And SC Hasn’t Been Merged By ” pioneerfund.com “,
Persons Who Said Those News ,Are Fraudfull.They Whould Like To Paly With You.
All Assets of SC as Been Blocked And It Can’t Send New Address to anybody yet,
We Should Wait till court on 24 September.
Swisscash will open New website at 31-December-2007. info from Serene Chea Bee Choon, and BB NG.
This is perfect, 31 december? you might as well say chinese new year. then Michael mansfield will come to asia to give ang bow to all of us. stop using my name to spread unneeded and untrue news. You might as well use Ng BB. better right? and your english sucks big time.
If you’re speaking about the Malaysian court, it does not mean that the court case will straightaway clear after 24 September. No offence to Malaysians, but the truth is that the prevalent trademark of the Malaysian system and way of life is a depressing pattern of lengak, lengok, slow slow, delay delay, nanti nanti, and by then November and then 2008.
Guess it’s time to be wise and refocus. Expect that the worst has happened, yet still put some glimmer of hope in the backburner. Yet, it’s difficult to be even a little hopeful at this point, in the absence of any positive leads.
El, what say you?
Even the very recent discovery about http://www.swisscashguide.com and its link to http://www.swisscash25.net is disheartening news enough. Full credit goes to the one who discovered this evidence of a scam that I feel is quite a solid one.
Worse still, now comes http://www.pioneerprofund.com, the new mirage that appears suddenly before us from nowhere and some gullibles ones trying to spoof the rest of us. Ha!
Putting aside all expression of anger, frustration, vulgarity, uncouth ranting, what else can we do? Any constructive suggestions?
Please email me at selfmasteryint@pacific.net.sg
Regards
EL.
Whats wrong with all of us??! We all can discern 90% that both swisscashguide.com and http://www.swisscash25.net are somehow linked. Now pioneerprofund!
On another note, I foresee that http://www.pioneerprofund.com (highlighted 27Aug above) shall be the new partner. The reason I say this is their modus operandi is very parallel and similar- similar website, using foreigners, high yield and layout- but purportedly run by Ashrif Ahmed Abdellah. Again I don’t care as long as it gives me the return. What I don’t understand is why can’t Michael Mansfield disclose that when he wrote in his last message. Excuses like security purposes and etc. are not acceptable to me or to us. With such turnover with immense funds and many investors worlwide, SC is classified as a major corporation, a force to be reckoned with. Legal due diligence, transparency and accountability to your investors. By committing to your investors, you can challenge any other major US or European fund managers. Act like a major corporation and you will become a corporation envious by many, even in developed countries, supported by all of us. You have yet to harvest heavily from many other major countries.
So treat us by telling us transparently. Stop letting us investigate, researching, groping in the dark and guessing as if we are idiots. Nothing is concrete except intelligent guess. But it is still a guess. We supported you and parted with our hard earned money without question. Its time you let us know without anymore doubts. When and where can we log in? To many investors who have just started few days before the website was locked, they have yet to get their return at all and we upliners are responsible for their money. How do you explain to any downline in this circumstances??
I am writing this as I know there are few ppl who read this blog-forum who is still maintaining relationship with the executors of former Swisscash. In short,DIVULGE with more firm information and your intention, esp with the new partner and new website!!
There is nothing those “investors” can do. Even if you report to bush the so called mosy powerful man on earth there is nothing much he can do..except to tasked FBI to carried out intensive search..but then even with FBI’s intervention..very difficult to nab those swisscash’s scammers as well.
I beg to differ. There is something the authorities can do.
Look at what the Malaysian Securities Commission have done so far.
They do have clout.
EL.
Ha! Ha! SC is the way man!!
update from my upline,
Swiss cash has merged with Pioneerprofund financial, which is now offering a fluctating rate of 8 – 30 Precent per month.
Sorry guys but the real original swiss cash is dead, just read that the site and u will get all the info.
Am very sad cause i invested $4000.00 didnt get a cent and harldly gonna get any returns.
Am done with this, best of luck.
Jamalee
Jamaican
Dear Members
As reported above swisscash is not merged with pionerprofund.com
It is entirely different management and is operative from Malaysia and investments returns are based as per religious laws of Muslims and the site is operated by Malaysian,though site reports registration from Bahamas.Now a days in internet based business you can get virtual address of any part of the world.
If interested you may join at your decision.
Regarding swisscash still I cannot make any guess ?
Please comment if anybody knows further.
Regards
RAVINDRA
Swisscash Plans merger with diffrent Investment Firm
Info From Top Sources
Swisscash can be possibly merged with A leading Investment Firm, which is now offering a fluctuating rate of 8 – 30 Precent per month.
* Name Of the company Not Yet Disclosed By Autority
There was A rumor that the Merger is with pioneerprofund. This is Not the Final Information.
My dear Members,
Since we are all hurt till today what I know I feel I should share with you.
Today is 18th September’2007,swisscash down since 18th August’2007
If you understand the logics of domain name registration, you will understand that daily update with the Domain History as far as sip25.com or swisscash.net goes has no bearing of the development of the websites or if they are doing anything to restore back the servers.Swisscash deleted the DNS Records from their domain names on August
18th 2007 and what happens here is that the numerous DNS Servers are trying to determine if Swisscash added the DNS Records back or if it is
changed. Without which, it will continually do the check.
If you understand how domain name works, you will understand that what is mentioned about them working hard to bring up the server would be a
lie. Because what is important is the last update date on the DNS Record which in this case is still August 18th 2007.
Here is a short premier of how DNS works for those who are clueless.
In the past, networked computers or servers are identified on the internet via their IP address which is a string of 4 sets of numbers such as 1.2.3.4.
It makes it difficult to remember a domain name address. For instance,Yahoo.com IP address is http://209.131.36.158. Type that in your web browser
and you will get to the yahoo website which we all can remember as http://www.yahoo.com. Think of IP address like grid coordinates on the map,
ie the Latitude and Longitude. Try finding an address through that and it would be nightmarish.
Someone came out with this brilliant method of using easier to remember alphanumerics to remember website address so you do not need to
remember long IP addresses. So now, we all can access Yahoo website as http://www.yahoo.com instead of http://209.131.36.158.
However as far as the computers are concerned, they work with numbers so you need this converter which converts http://www.yahoo.com to
http://209.131.36.158 so the computers can understand. This would be the job of the Domain Name Server (DNS Server). Basically, it is a database
of the domain name and their IP address equivalent to put it simply.So if someone types http://www.yahoo.com, that address would be
checked against a DNS Server and your computer knows the IP address of the site and brings you the site.
So back to Swisscash. When Swisscash removed their DNS Record,typically the DNS Server at the Domain Name Registrar, it is as good
as removing all possible records of where Swisscash Servers are located. So since August 18th 2007, the internet does not know where
Swisscash website is.
Thus the return why you see the daily dates in the history is because the internet is sending out sort of a virtual search party checking to
see if Swisscash is found. Obviously nothing has changed since 18th August’2007.Because the DNS Server does not know where Swisscash server is,
it will not know whether it is being rebuilt or nothing is done.
Sorry to burst the bubble but it is important to accept reality and not some kind of pipedream.
Regards
RAVINDRA
Arun,
Who is your “top source” for information and how authentic is it and when would the final information be available?
These days I feel so depressed thinking over this SC situation. Can anyone offer any sensible ray of hope?
Dear Mujobaby: Don’t be despair. There is really nothing we can do at this point besides waiting…
Words from the middle east is that SC will open between 19 to 26.. But take this with a grain of salt… Having hopes up and being dashed again is not fun.. And I have no idea how reliable the source is.
I am very positive that SC will come back for a few reasons:
1. Why bother keeping us waiting? What does it gain by keeping our hopes up for a longer time. There is nothing SC gains by doing so. If it is a scam it will take the money and shut up forever.
2. The news that SC websites were blocked due to Malaysian government’s “divine intervention” is real.. It’s on the newspaper everywhere… If SC’s intent is to bail out, this is the best time. Just say adios, can’t do this anymore, not my fault, it’s the Interpol and Malaysian government that forced us to do this— there is absolutely nothing we can do if that happens right?
A lot of investors were frustrated that too many news floating around, and no one knows for sure what’s real and what’s not.. The hurricane, 8/25/07 etc… but all and all, the only ones from SC that we could see with our eyes are the ones posted on 8/30/07, and 9/15/07.. I knew for awhile Hurricane Dean did not cause the site to be down–it was only hearsay. What happen is many uplines/investors feel obliged to give explanations when SC sites are in-accessible, hence all these rumors sprouting out like daisies in the spring…So if we just relax and make NO guesses and just WAIT (frankly there REALLY isn’t anything else we can do besides this than WAIT since our money in SC is untouchable at this point) for new announcement from SC….
SC management, I am sure you are reading and feeling the pain of the investors… Communication is key. We will be very supportive if you show your commitment to us…
Dear Friends,
If you have posted comments for me, please give me some time to reply as I have time constraint at the moment.
My apologies, and will get back to you ASAP
Regards
EL.
Hi All,
It’s interesting reading all the comments made by everyone. However at some point, reality must set in, and perhaps today is the best day to let that happen.
Swisscash is dead and gone. It will never return. The truth always hurt, but as investors, we have to accept responsibility for our actions. When we invested in Swisscash we had only one thing on our minds. That is LET’S MAKE MONEY. Which in other word also means GREED. We only have ourselves to blame. The people who were managing Swisscash capitalised on our vulnerability, and made the most of our foolishness.
Like other investors, we questioned the flimsy structure of the set up of Swisscash, yet decided to part with our hard earned money.Investors were recommended by word of mouth, no official banking transactions were handed to us, no contact details or person, except the one we handed our money to. No traceability was evident. Despite all these warning signs, we still parted with our money, believing in a dream of making quick money. That dream is now a nightmare. We can go on and on and on, but it will lead us to nowhere.
The best thing that we can do for ourselves now, is to end all the worries and anxieties, and accept that we made a bad choice and have lost this time round. However let this be a learning curve for us all, and be very careful how and who with deal with in future. Perhaps it might be better to invest in funds that are slow yielding, yet assured of the returns.
Perhaps the reason why everyone on this forum is acting so uptight (and understandably so), is because we cannot or won’t accept the fact that we have been foolish to believe in Swisscash and have paid a heavy price for our foolishness. The scammers are reading your comments and having a fielding day laughing at our expense.They may even be participating in this forum. Let’s stop this once and for all and not allow them to play with our minds or treat us like fools once again.
They may have got away this time, but they will pay back in some other way.
As investors, we must accept that we have lost this round, and move on. Let’s use our energy and strength to positively build on other aspects of our lives. Swisscash is dead. our investment vanished, but we are still alive. If we have the resilience, we can deal with this lost and rebuild our lives.
Another suggestion is try not to write too much on this forum. It may have been good initially, to vent your anger and frustration, but DO NOT LET IT CONSUME YOU. Otherwise, your health might suffer and that could be worst than losing your investment.
Remember HEALTH IS WEALTH. Cheers all.
Doubting Thomas,
I have a personal question. How can I contact you?
Hi Savage,
You can contact me on marko8778@hotmail.com
Cheers
Could you kindly inform me where did you get the news from?
if you know please help me.
Hi Dear Azadeh.
Please Don’t Trust to Every Comments That See Here,
There Are Some Fraudfull People Here Who Whould Like To Disapoint Investors.
The situation of SC Depends On 24 September in Court.
and They Send you Email, Please Don’t Trust Every Person, you can send me PM in Yahoo Messenger by “amircoyot” for more information.
and visit http://www.swisscash-tehran.blogfa.com/ or
I think SC investors are running out of patience, it has taken too long for waiting w/ no certainty, at least & the best way is that SC MUST release notification thru sms & email to all of its investors these few days (since it has investors’ data when registered) regarding its new site rather than using website for notification, that’s it & no more comments here in this forum since we dont know who’s the real SC investors here & who isn’t & everything has turned up to be so messy, confusing here in this forum. Once all SC investors get sms & email, I hope they wont post any more comments here.
As a consequence, if SC doesnt release notification via sms & email to all its investors these few days, sorry for those who still hv high hopes for its coming back (or some may even be well-paid by SC to post comments here), SC will hv been considered an internet scam, & SC investors should hv to take legal actions against SC by consulting w/ Mrs. Leony of Rajah & Tann law firm in Singapore who has specialization on investigating internet scam cases & tracking down the investors’ money, as how I know Dressel’s investors had taken the same action on last Sept. 15.
I hope this will end up all the vain waiting & uncertainty for all SC investors.
I m personally a SC investor & I m neither pro SC nor anti SC, what I want is only an objective assesment towards SC here, & so far, seemingly noone really knows SC’s motives behind all this, for good or for bad.
Hi Ravidra: Your comment here about SC merged with pionner profund had been posted on Baidu.com…
To all:I tried pointing my cursor toe ABOUT SWISSCASH the very first day the comment was posted by Kevin and mine showed swisscash25.net… Now doing the same thing will show swisscashguide.com… SC is watching and hearing what we are writing about…
Another bit of news from the middle east, up between 19-26.. But please take this with a grain of salt… Life goes on regardless of what happens to SC….
Confirmed swisscash gone for good already. A check with pioneerprofund that they do not have any link or associate with swiss mutual fund.
Good.
As far as you are concerned, it is full stop.
No need to visit this site anymore as you are sure about this.
Thank you for your info.
Best wishes
EL.
Dear Folks,
If you did not receive any sms or email from Swisscash regarding any information re new Identity, please do not buy any of the comments which mentioned that Swisscash is now this or Swisscash is now that……
eventhough it mentioned info is from top sources etc etc
Regards
EL
Greetngs El,
Agreed with you totally, we should wait for the Official SMS/EMAIL from SwissCASH for confirmation on the status.
We have been thru too many times on the info/s from the so-called “Top Sources”…just wondering who are they..can’t they just be more transparent/ or they are just like us..not knowing anything at all.
For those who which to know about the “Top Sources” info on the merger with Pioneerprofund , you can login to http://www.bloogger1.infor
Come on Swiss Cash.
Rgds
GeoGeo
El, I know that up to last night when I pointed the cursor to “About Swisscash”, it showed “www.swisscash25.net”.
Now earlier today when I did the same thing, and even a while ago it is now showing “www.swisscashguide.com”
This tells me that whoever created the website is reading this forum! This makes everything look suspicious. It was saying one thing before and as it is exposed openly on the forum, they run and edit it.
Smart, aint it?
Has anyone received or heard of anyone receiving sms?In Jamaica there have been three reports of persons receiving sms, two about sip 25% payments and one talking about http://www.pioneerprofund.com. I am trying to find out the exact wording pertaining to pioneerprofund.com. I should hear tomorrow and let you all know. In fact, I want to speak to the individual who received the text about the website.
Does this mean the sign of new life, I dont know. I need to verify everything first.
Thanks I have noted.
Please ask the question again, why the websites were removed on the 18th and by whom?
When we know the real answer, we will have some idea of what is going on.
EL.
Dear Members
I agree with muobaby. I also observe the same thing today.
swisscashguide.com is fake, do not trust.
swisscash is gone now..forever…
Yes Sc has been Gone Be Happy, And Sleep Well,
You Are So Stupid and ridiculous, I Wonder, You Come Here and Every Day you Say A New Thing, you are A Big Liar,
Are You Jobless? Man!! I hope you Visit A Psychologists,
Sorry its….
http://www.blogger1.infor
For SwissCash Updates From “TOP SOURCES”
CHEERS
GEOGEO
All those who posted that Swisscash is gone, thank you for your information.
So case over for you. Please do not vistt this site anymore and keep repeating the same news. As far as you are concerned, case is closed.
If it is over for you, please move on.
For those who wants to know what is going on, this forum may be able to share whatever relevant information that may be beneficial to you.
Regards
EL.
Before one of you discovered the link to swisscash25.net
I emailed to service@swisscashguide.com informing them that there is a website excatly like theirs and asking them to sue swisscash25.net for copyright infringement if that website is not theirs
EL.
Dear Folks,
Below is an email that I have sent to their email address available at the swisscashguide.com. Please help to copy and paste on other blogs.
Thanks.
Dear Swisscash/New Identity of Swisscash
It was discovered that one of your hyperlinks “ABOUT SWISSCASH” below the remarks “Last message from Michael Mansfield”
actually points to http://www.swisscash25.net.
On your webspage, you mentioned that http://www.swisscash25.net is one of the many other fake Swisscash websites.
Kindly clarify, as the intelligent EX Swisscash Investors are asking questions as to why does a genuine Swisscash website
http://www.swisscashguide.com have links to http://www.swisscash25.net which was declared a fake website by you?
This email to you will be posted on all blogs over the internet.
If you choose to remain quiet and do not clarify this point, the INVESTORS will put two and two together and will declare that
http://www.swisscashguide.com is not a genuine website.
Is that what you desire to happen? If yes, then you do not have to take any action.
If no, you know what is the right thing to do.
I need not remind you that you do have a responsibility to your Investors, that is, if you wish that we continue to propel Swisscash
/New Identitty to the next level.
If you choose to remain silent, we as a group will decide what is the next step we will take, and that may include reporting to the
relevant authorities. This is not meant to be a threat, however, since we are not being given the answers that we require and in lieu of that,
we have to consider other alternative course of action.
I think it will not require many days for you to rspond to my email, hence three days I feel is sufficient for you to reply, especially to
such an important query from your Investors. However, if you do need more time to investigate what happened, all you need to do
is send a few lines by replying to this email.
Regards
El
El,
Ok, the link to “About Swisscash” has been changed in an apparently close timing to the above email you sent out to service@swisscashguide.com. But what can be deduced from this?
The immediate question that I would ask is: “How could that have happened in the very first place?” Putting an alien link within the swisscashguide.com site, I mean. A typo error? I am trying to be constructive here in analysis. There’s still a missing puzzle piece and the pic is still not clear. What do you have to say? If it is too sensitive to discuss here, please email me using the address I wrote you recently. Thanks!
What would happen to 1st October ACF shares.
Pandora Box,
swisscash weent offline since 18th Aug. It is confirmed gone as for your ACF shares..U can continue to wait..till 1st Oct 2099…
Hi Dear Investors
*****************************************
Some Stupid Persons Whould Like to Disturb SC Investors.
They Enjoy Making Sadness For Us, I Have Some Questions from These Persons?
“Are You Sure That SC has gone?
Then, Why Do You Come Here Every Day, and Why Do You Bring News About SC Everyday ? Is It Important To You?
I Thinks you Are Jobless, And You Haven’t Got Any Hobbies In Your Life, Expect That You Put Your Ass On Your Seat, Back the Computer and Lie.8-> ^o
I Think you can’t Sleep without doing Sycho Works Such As Disturbing People.
Suppose SC Has Gone,and We have Lost Our Money, so Be Happy and Sleep Well I-) , and Please Don’t Disturb Your Nice Fingers for Typing Any Lies. =))
For SWISSCASH investor Real story you still cannot accept.(SWISSCASH GONE). So we change our mindset to Cheathing ourself story. and we dream every night and pray to ALLAH hope swisscash will comeback. hope we will get ACF money ? hope swisscash will be Re-open. ???? Think Good YOU and Me will Be BILLION Dollarman at 2010.(compound interest 25% Permonth). so pray and hope Very Positive Loh ? Think Very positive Loh ? all we will be Very Rich at Figure only. Amir Hassan ,BB Ng, Serene Chea Bee choon this Three person Real Rich person. we also RICH at own Dream.(SWEET DREAM).
Friend , we come here to enjoy the leisure Blog about swisscah. It nothing we loose ? also enjoy ourself. we believe 99% gone. but because you, I also got 1% hope. so i nothing loose, i still obtain 1% from you. I also accompany you to this journey. Friend it nothing too loose. we chit chak here. Remeber we are LOOSER at swisscash, And WINNER it, BB NG(singaporean), Amir Hassan (Malaysian), CHea Bee Choon (Singaporean). this 24/sept/2007 Amir Hassan will not appear at court. so if you it real AMIR HASSAN what you will do?????????????????????????????
hi Dear Mark,
Unfortunately , you didn’t undertand my word,
Why did you invest, while you haven’y got bussiness thinking, dude?
I suppose that your guess is true, what does become well with repeating it?
Be Patient.
SWISSCASH :
Message ‘alert’
Goverment of the Commonwealth of Dominica(click Here)
Hey Russ,
How much did you lose. Why bother to let me know
To Russ
Those sore losers out there who’s month has constant diarrhoe. God Speed.
I was told by some blog members that SC would be up and running by sep 15.Still no news. Any update?.
Friend. be think positive at your mindset. enjoy your beauty hope, so you will be BILLION Man at SWISSCASH year 2010. BIG Dream for you and all SWISSCASH investor, sweet dream till 2010. You will be BILLION man or Women. Congratulation For all. Info from MARK LAI.
cau u imagine if the so called dealers were not a part of swisscash, how they would be screaming with all those millions of epoints. something to think about.
Hey Folks
Please ignore comments by Mark Lai +6596900319, this person who make the comment is a coward. Why? He chose to comment under another person’s name.. SHAME ON YOU!!!
any doubt info please direct call me. +6596900319 or emel to me direct :angienmt2004@yahoo.com.sg my malaysia direct line :+60356215387. and handphone:+60162273663. please serius talk with me.
Thank you for using my name and my contact to scam people. shows what a stupid person you are.
Dera Folks,
When someone repeatedly commented that Swisscash is gone without any concrete evidence, be careful as they may have an axe to grind, they may have an ulterior motive, they may have their own agendas.
They may want something from you.
Regards
EL.
Dear El: I completely agree with you.
Dear folks: Just go back to the basic question: Why was SC shutdown? SC didn’t RUN away. It was blocked by authorities. It’s in the news. SC didn’t make this up….So in any logical sense, SC will TRY to come back. So the question is not “IS SC COMING BACK?”. It should be “WHEN CAN SC COME BACK?”. So we shall wait and see. Until the coffin is being nailed, no-one should say that SC is gone…..
My 2-cents…
You will not be successful appealing to them using logic, because they have abandoned it, for some other objectives………………
Regards
EL.
Can someone help me to confirm?
I tried to see http://www.swisscash25.net however I get a Http403 (forbidden)
Thanks
EL.
Dear El: I got directory listing denied message..with Suspected Web Forgery warning…
But swisscash25.org shows the SC website… Both swisscash25.org and swisscash25.net registered to the same group…. check out on domaintools.com.
Thanks
EL.
Dragonlady,
swisscash25.org opens up for true as you say whereas swisscash25.net doesn’t. I tried pointing the cursor to the “About Swisscash” below the Mansfield message and it shows “www.swisscash25.net”.
El, you could try that and see. I think these two websites are connected.
It now shows swisscashguide.com and not swisscash25.net
EL.
It is now swisscashguide.com
Dear Mujobaby: I tried sign up a fictitious person with my real email address using a fake trader ID for testing on swisscash25.org. The sign up was successful and I was able to log into the new account created — exactly the same as the real SC website before activation… And I got an email from the website giving me the login ID and password, from service@swisscash25.net… If you want me to forward the email, please let me know your email address. Or just create one yourself (using fake info) for testing…
So these two websites are essentially one…
Actually I have done the same thing with swisscash25.net few weeks ago using the same sign up info I did today with swisscash25.org.. And I also received an email from service@swisscash25.net…
What all these mean, I have not a clue….
What I heard was the court proceeding occurred in Malaysia on 9/19/07 and again on 9/24/07. Since it’s a civil case (see http://www.sc.com.my — Malaysian Security Committee’s press release on 9/13/07 and 7/10/07)that Amir Hassan does not need to be present on 9/24/07. But it was said the outcome is in favor of the defendants (hence SC) with some sort of mediations going on and that after 9/24/07, SC websites will continue to be functional again on 9/25/07 (source from the middle east..) Please take this with a grain of salt… I only share what I hear. Of course I want it to be true and I pray for it to be true… But please don’t hold my head to this…
If you look at the email address, they have no intention of hiding it as the email address at swisscash.org is service@swisscash25.net
EL.
My take is that swisscash25.org is not genuine as they only allow one to register an account but it does not allow an existing investor to log in.
What purpose can it serve by doing that? It does not even remarked that invalid password is used.
Regards
EL.
It also means that they do not have the database to compare existing investors with current investors log in data which means that they could be attempting to collect log in details
Regards
EL.
Yes it does, so they have been outsmarted by you.
EL.
PAndora box,
I am a real idiots. Till now still believe sc coming back. Happy dreaming
Hi all the SC Investors,
(serious & positive ones only)
The Breaking News you have read will come true in few days time. It was already stated by the CFO Mr. M. Mansfield (in Swiss News Update of your Investor’s Area) that there will be rebranding in the coming few months. So, this is the time they are doing and accordingly, the servers are upgraded and ready to launch. Few more sleepless nights you will see your hard earned money working for you again.
Dont worry Be Happy
Arun
Thanks Arun, I appreaciate ur views about positive thinking about swisscash functioning.
I think swisscash will come back !
SWISSCASH WILL COME BACK WITH DIFFRENT BRAND SOON BEFORE 1 OKTOBER 20017 BECAUSE ACF
Lee
SWISSCASH WILL COME BACK WITH DIFFRENT BRAND SOON BEFORE 1 OKTOBER 2007 BECAUSE ACF
Lee
Dear Arun,
Do you care to share your “Breaking news” source with us serious & positive investors?
We really want to know that SC is coming back.
Despite all that the negative blasters are saying, I am sure they are hanging around to see the return of SC else why are they in the forum everyday telling us SC is gone. They should go too!
El, the site I was referring to is http://www.swisscash25.org that the “About Swisscash” in the middle of the page is redirected to “www.swisscash25.net” I think you probably mistake the website that I am referring to is http://www.swisscashguide.com
Yes, They are still hanging around. Makes me wonder whatever for.
I have noted about the link. Thanks.
Regards
EL.
El,
I don’t mean to sound negative, but I posted the following earlier, asking a question with genuine inquiry, but didn’t get any response. So, here it is again:
Ok, the link to “About Swisscash” has been changed in an apparently close timing to the above email you sent out to service@swisscashguide.com. But what can be deduced from this?
The immediate question that I would ask is: “How could that have happened in the very first place?” Putting an alien link within the swisscashguide.com site, I mean. A typo error?
I am trying to apply constructive analysis. There’s a missing puzzle piece here, and the pic is still not clear. Do you have any thoughts?
I have given you my number. Perhaps you would like to call me?
Regards
EL.
China’s patience SC investors continue to wait, we need action, any information on the Internet I
They will continue to believe that, we need the facts SC fraud submitted to the national Ministry of Public Security, in this, I suggest
SC global investors, in your local police station to report it, we work together to swindlers to justice
The law. Do not give any time liar, cheater escape opportunity cheater evidence to be destroyed.
Arun,
You can continue to dream..Taing 35days or more to upgrade “servers and rebranding”…The day will never come..
DEAR DRAMA,
Shall we discuss on the 27th september on this issue?
Arun
Pioneer profund.com news about SC merging with them.. Not true according to the news.. See for yourself…
http://www.pioneerprofund.com/latest_news.php?type=General
Pioneerprofund.com is run by malaysia. This is another scam. To collect money from poor investor.
Thanks Dragonlady for that update about Pioneerprofund not merged with
SC. I never thought so myself because I dont like PPF financial plans. They are nowhere as good as SC’s plans. So maybe this is good new in disguise.
Let us all wait and see what SC will return with.
Guys, guys… If anyone can show me another picture of mansfield then Swisscash is coming back. If not you swisscash people are really big fools.
I wish swisscash people good luck… NOT!
Hi Dear El
I read some of your Comments,
I should say things,
The ” swisscashguide.com ” has been made BY ” Famous Amir Hassan ” , for ensuring his direct Sub-branches,
then we see a poor english text.
BUT!!, He is only A Top Leader in SC, He is not M.Mansfield.
He did this stupid action , only for persuading his direct Investors.
All of Assets of SC are still blocked, the SC couldn’t make new website, and couldn’t send SMS or Email to anyone.
Infact, the date “15 September” is not a true date, and every news such as,: “Hurricane”, “SC is fraudfull” , ” SC has gone “, ” Amir Hassan is M.Mansfield ” , …. is not true.
also, http://www.swisscash25.com has been made by hackers,
but ww.swisscashguide.com is not fake, is only for makeing optimistic sense.
I think Sc will come back, and Please visit
Hi Dear El
I read some of your Comments,
I should say things,
The ” swisscashguide.com ” has been made BY ” Famous Amir Hassan ” , for ensuring his direct Sub-branches,
then we see a poor english text.
BUT!!, He is only A Top Leader in SC, He is not M.Mansfield.
He did this stupid action , only for persuading his direct Investors.
All of Assets of SC are still blocked, the SC couldn’t make new website, and couldn’t send SMS or Email to anyone.
Infact, the date “15 September” is not a true date, and every news such as,: “Hurricane”, “SC is fraudfull” , ” SC has gone “, ” Amir Hassan is M.Mansfield ” , …. is not true.
also, http://www.swisscash25.com has been made by hackers,
but ww.swisscashguide.com is not fake, is only for makeing optimistic sense.
I think Sc will come back, and Please visit :
http://www.swisscashguide.biz/payment_methods.php
It used to be that a Ponzi scheme (pyramid) will just disappear after collecting enough money and after a certain point is reached when making payments to its members will affect their coffers, and that is the point where they will cease operating.
Most online programs were normally left alone to operate without much monitoring or censorship, and it was common knowledge that there are many fly by night operators who were never serious about honouring their promises.
And along come Swisscash, offering attractive returns, giving compelling reasons on its website about how 1% a day is actually something that is easily achievable.
Swisscash attracted media attention on TV and newspapers and to a ponzi scheme operator, assuming Swisscash is, the additional spotlight must be uncomfortable, assuming that Swisscash is a ponzi scheme.
However Swisscash stands its ground, even though questions arise as to who the CEO really is and many other questions that up to this moment are still unanswered.
The popularity of its program created unexpected damage to its reputation as over enthusiastic promoters clashes with institutions that felt threatened by the popularity of its program resulting in millions of dollars leaving the country into foreign bank accounts.
Sensing that this could be a national threat, the concerned authorities decided to use their legal muscle to put a stop to what it sees as a national security threat, coming up with reason that Swisscash does not have a license to offer such financial investment services, and therefore is not endorsed and is declared as having no license to offer what it offers, notwithstanding that there are many ecommerce companies doing just that without anybody blinking an eyelid before.
To be slapped with a minerva injunction, and to have its website inaccessible by those in Malaysia could have spelled trouble for a ponzi scheme company, and for a ponzi scheme company, perhaps now is the best time to get out and run.
What happened next was contrary to expectation from what is expected of a ponzi scheme company. A statement was issued by Swisscash that Malaysians are not allowed to open a trading account with Swisscash. What a powerful blow, knowing that the majority of its investors are from Malaysia.
Surprise surprise, Swisscash actually cooperates with the relevant authorities.
What does it says about Swisscash? A ponzi scheme? Perhaps and perhaps not
Thinking that not allowing Malaysians from opening a trading account is the solution and is all that is required, Swisscash goes back to business.
Score
Swisscash: 0 MSC: 1
Round two
The next salvo was fired. Not enough that the people in Malaysia were not allowed to access Swisscash websites and realising that mnany are able to circumvent this prohibition by accessing it overseas (thanks to the public postings on the internet) The MSC is now bent on making sure that all Swisscash websites must be removed, carrying out its mission with a sense of committment and focus that borders on obsession.
Score
Swisscash: 0 MSC: 2
Swisscash were caught offguard and all trading activities crumbled to a halt, shocked and stumped.
Investors were caught off guard. A surge in cyberspace activities ensued, as concerned and panicky investors scroll the net for information and as swisscash investors group together to help one another to obtain answers to the most important question, which is, what is going to happen to my investment?
The situation was made worse as competitors of other investment programs and even Swisscash investors who have joined other investment programs start to add more fuel to the already raging fire, posting comments to demoralise the group of Investors who are now lost without their leader, CEO Michael Mansfield, who have dissapeared from the radar screen.
Numerous look alike websites sprung up which added to the confusion and even hurricanes were thought to be the reason as to why the websites were down.
After much waiting, on the 15th September, Michael Mansfield appeared in the form of a message, dropping a bomb, saying that he is leaving Swisscash and that Swisscash is being handed over to a new team.
Confusion continues as Investors debate as to whether this website is genuine and more confusion followed as some of the links on this website point to a fake website declared by the so called “genuine website”.
Swisscash, which have arrangements with 15 banks in China for investors in china to buy epoints, is fully aware that their identity was never meant to be kept a secret, (or else there is no need to leave traces of its footprints by opening banking accounts) and running away is not really an option, assuming also that its accounts are frozen.
Confident that it has never defaulted on paying every single returns to its investors, Swisscash prepares to rebrand itself to go to the next level of its growth, nonwithstanding the fact that a court case is pending, and announces almost confidently that it will be back.
To be continued……………..
EL.
HI El,
I fully agree to your statements,line by line,
Keep it up
Arun
El,
Your analysis is strikingly close to the real thing, except the last part about rebranding.
Rebranding was already in the pipeline before 18 Aug.
Hi EL,
Excellent analysis…I fully agree.
Looking forward for your next part 2.
Keep it up.
Cheers
GeoGeo
El,
Very interesting analysis. waiting for part 2, sounds like the icing for the cake is coming.
Hi loyal investors,
Got the below info from my up line.
The truth is that it seems as if the law suit against swisscash is what will detemine the faith of swiss cash and all it’s investors. It really seems as if they are in trouble
Dear Jamalee
Who is your great UP LINE??
A judge of the court handling the Swisscash Case in Malaysia?
Pl tell us If HE IS
Thankx
Arun
Dear EL
Great analysis.Appreciated !
Thanks
RAVINDRA
I would like to discuss with an SC investor, someone who is familiar regarding website hosting and programming to investigate a hunch.
Please email to me at selfmasteryint@pacific.net.sg
Thanks
EL.
Dear Folks,
Do not trust any news, not even from me except what Swisscash send to you by SMS or EMAIL.
Please see below.
As for the many postings here saying all kinds of things, just ignore them.
I know that you are anxious, perhaps even many bills to pay, but that does not mean you accept any unofficial news posted by any tom, dick or harry, not even me.
Remember that at all times, otherwise, your emotions will fluctuate like the share prices as you go on a roller coaster ride. Remember to remain steady and not be swayed by anything. This is a time where you can be manipulated if you do not know what is the line of communication between you asn Swisscash.
- We only ask you to be patient to get good news from our Financial Consultants and local technical Managers and do not trust any news or new websites except what we send you by SMS or email
So we strongly ask you not to trust anyone or any other scam websites during this period except our introduced agents. We will announce you by mail or SMS or only through this temporary website.
Thanks a lot for your support and patience
Chief Financial Officer of SMF
Michael Mansfield
Aug.30.2007
So please wait for the new team to contact you only via email or SMS to introduce you the new platform. They have all data about all ex-SC
investors with full privacy. You can confidentially trust them as you trusted us. They have your principal Money which where in our trading
system. Again Thanks for your patience.
The last message from,
Michael Mansfield
Chief Financial Officer (SMF)
15-September-2007
Reply to this comment
I know the SC Admin are monitoring this blog.
An email/sms is long overdue.
Do you agree EL ???
So, over to you SC, your move…
GeoGeo
Yes, I think frequent updates are better, even though the exact launch of the new websites may still be uncertain.
EL.
Dear Members,
Please be alert and post immediate message on this forum if anybody gets information about swisscash starting.
Regards
RAVINDRA
Hi, i’m new here. Anyway i like the comment by El. Anyhow those who had receive any sms, e-mail, read through the temporary SC web hosting regarding the progress of SC so please share with other investors.
I think we must have positive mind, patient and do not ‘BIG’ the ‘GUN’. If we wait until end of October but no one knew the progress than we will go for the second step of action…agreed..
I read all the comments above and i like it. Thanks a lot to all SC investor…alt least we have place to share our personal view.
Cheers to all SC investor.
My reasons why Swisscashguide.com is the temporary website of Swisscash
The background reports can only be compiled by someone who has been running swisscash
If I am not from Swisscash, and if I were to create a website to trick swisscash investors, I must be prepared when the actual owners announced their actual website. which will then expose me as a fake website and I may not have the information to know when that is. Therefore it does not make sense to take this risk.
A copycat websites will not have the guts to make summaries and statements with such conviction and with detailed explanations of what is going on and what to expect. A copycat website objective will simply be to mislead Swisscash investors to reveal their trading IDs and passwords, with the objective of accessing investors trading accounts.
Websites owners can be traced, eventhough particulars submitted can be fictitous and it is a risk to create a website and claim that this is the offcial website when it is not. Technolgy is now so sophisticated that I can find out your location when you make a purchase with a credit card. Your credit card reveals a lot about your buying habits, where you travel, your location right now as you make a purchase etc etc.
Only the genuine website can advise its investors which websites are fake and which one is genuine and make a statement about it.
The email address on the fake websites normally do not exists and any attempt to get a reply will normally be unsuccessful and most of the time the email will bounced back. The email address on swisscashguide.com is actually real. Whether someone reads it or not, nobody knows, but as of now, emails sent to swisscashguide .com are not redirected back to the sender. the email address is a working address
I have a hunch as to why there was a link to swisscash25.net but I require someone who is an IT person to email me.
Regards
EL.
The person who bought the domain name swisscash25.net and swisscash25.org belong to the same organisation.
Have you ever wondered if they are professionals and know what they are doing? As far as I know, .org is normally used by non profit organisations and .com .biz and .net are normally used by websites with commercial content.
EL.
Hello El,
I have got information that Mr. Micheal Mansfield has been promoted as the CFO of SMF. Do u have any information regarding the same?
If you do have pl share
Arun
Dear Arun: I also got information for the new head of Swisscash..
Hi Dragonlady
Who is the new head of Swiss Cash ???
GeoGeo
To accept that information to be true, one must first establish that swiss mutual fund really exists.
As of now, Swiss Mutual Fund is simply a name on the internet.
As for Michael Mansfield, please ask the question, does he truly exist?
EL.
This information was taken from another cyberspace forum…below can explain certain things:-
[QUOTE]
Mareva interlocutory order
A Mareva injunction or a Mareva order, as it is known in Australia, is an extremely nasty interlocutory order, that freezes a litigant’s assets on the theory that he may remove them from the jurisdiction or that he may dissipate them and not pay moneys subsequently held to be payable.
It requires a higher standard than the balance of convenience, but if you get a corrupt judge you have had it, because it means that your money is frozen so you cannot pay your legal costs.
It is generally not enforceable in other countries. The judge can make the order and can punish a person he finds within the jurisdiction who does not comply with it or who encourages a party not to comply with it, BUT generally interlocutory orders are not enforceable in a foreign country, but only final judgments and orders.
It is therefore very unwise to have bank accounts with international banks that have branches in the country that is likely to issue the freezing order and in the country where the account is kept. This is because the judge can punish the banker.
This means that a separate action must be commenced in the foreign country and then an asset freezing order sought there.
he Grand Court of the Cayman Islands has recently granted a Mareva Injunction in the case of KTH Capital v. China One et al against a Cayman registered company controlled by Morgan Stanley. In so doing, the Court had to grapple with the novel defence raised by the Company that, as a special purpose vehicle, the sole purpose for the Company’s incorporation was to act as a conduit for the repatriation of its shareholders’ indirect investment in a distressed debt portfolio acquired by the Company’s subsidiary in the People’s Republic of China. In these circumstances, it was argued that the distribution of dividends by the Company to its shareholders was in the ordinary course of the Company’s business and that such distributions were accordingly not liable to be restrained by Mareva Injunction.
The “ordinary course of business” exception was summarised by the English High Court in Customs & Exercise Commissioners v Anchor Food [1999] 3 All ER 268 where it said: “The Mareva Injunction jurisdiction is not to be used so as to impede or interfere with a defendant’s ordinary bona fide business transactions”. Instead, the aim of a Mareva Injunction is to prevent the dissipation of assets by a defendant either with the intention of avoiding the enforceability of any judgment that may be granted against it or in a manner distinct from its usual or ordinary course of business. Consequently, the authorities demonstrate that an injunction will not ordinarily be granted in the case of a reputable trading company such as a bank or insurance broker which will need to make regular payments to its customers.
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This means that a separate action must be commenced in the foreign country and then an asset freezing order sought there.
Under which country’s jurisdiction is SwissCash?
Other than Malaysia, which other countries have applied for injunction ? None, I believe. [UNQUOTE]
Whatever is your opinion and/or conclusion post it in this forum while the case of the Big Trio has to be decided by the Malaysian Court on 24th.Sep.2007
Dear Investors,
Although I am anot a lawyer, as far my rational thinking goes ,keeping the below mentioned analysis of the Mareva Injunction, It should not be tough for SC to come out of the situation on the 24th.
Any rational comments welcome.
Is there any Lawyer visiting the forum? If yes we would like to have his comments too for the benifit of all.
Thankx
Arun
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In order for a defendant to have the Mareva injunction set aside, it will be required to file affidavit evidence showing that it has substance and has no intention of hiding or disposing of its assets (Rasu Maritima SA v. Periamina, [1979] 3 All E.R. 324 (C.A.)). The defendant will have to bring forward any available evidence that will weaken the plaintiff’s claim. This could be of benefit to the plaintiff who may, at an early step of the action, discover the weaknesses in its claim against the defendant. This will allow the plaintiff ample opportunity to amend its claim or take other steps to protect itself well ahead of the action coming on for trial or summary hearing.
Source C L E Analysis
Dear EL,
First of all, is there a fund or company by the name of swiss mutual fund? Is there a man called michael mansfield who is a forex trader? There is one but he don’t seems to be the mansfield who is the so called CFO for Swisscash.
You mentioned that website can be traced..Yes I truely agreed with you but what about swisscash? Till now nobody can traced the owners or hosters name despite being online for 2.5 yrs abt offline for 35 days and counting? Is this a scam by swisscash right from the begining? You mentioned about fake website circulating on the net, it is really very difficult to ascertain fake and real..Even the so called believed to be real based on our analysis can turned out to be fake by having a link to a so called fake website..What other type of reasons can we as investors think of to say that swisscashguide is a real one?
Do u really believe swisscash will come back? Even after 35 days ++ offline is as good as gone? Or we harbour hopes just because swisscashguide tells us so to be patience? Sounds illogical..
gunaocs@yahoo.com.sg
If it is illogical to you, please follow your own reasoning.
At least, you dare to think for yourself.
El.
Publications about SMF in 1997 and 1998.
http://www.warsawvoice.pl/archiwum.phtml/3441/
http://www.warsawvoice.pl/archiwum.phtml/3013
I read one of Baidu.com postings mentioned about one author’s neighbor’s daughter who worked at the Barclay Bank in England. The mom, a SC investor, asked the daughter to find out about SMF… The daughter confirmed there is such a company. The author tried to calm Chinese SC investor down using that fact…
Kudos to the writer, but the investors are too irrational to see anything….All they do is blame someone else for their loss believing that SC is gone forever… Some invested A LOT of money…..It’s no longer called investing, it’s called committing suicide….
Dear Siswi,
If you think the time is up, then it is time to move on.
It is not that they cannot trace the owners, right now,only Malaysian Securities Commission is involved.
If the FBI comes in, they can expose the owner of the website. It is whether they want to or not, as it does involve a lot of work.
Furthermore, how many people have complained to the authorities that they have been denied payment?
According to Swisscash, they have paid every single returns.
Do you think that when most investors have been paid, that they are going to lodge a police report that they have not been paid?
If someone rapes someone, if the victim does not press charges, can the authorities step in?
Yes, perhaps, the swisscashguide.com is just there to keep investors in the loop, perhaps it is there to justify why investors have to be patient, now that there are 9 phases and who knows what else………
perhaps it has something to do with its assets being frozen and the story given about handing over to a new team etc etc is just smoke……
Who knows? Except the people running swisscash. Who are they?
I keep telling this over and over again. Please think before you ask me another question on this forum. Please ask me intelligent questions.
WHAT HAPPEN ON 18TH AUGUST?
WHY WERE ALL FOUR SWISSCASH WEBSITES TAKEN OFF THE INTERNET?
WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT? Swisscash or some other parties?
Whoever wants to throw in the towel and feels that he has waited long enough, be my guest, go ahead and make a police report.
I rest my case.
EL.
El : In these times and age, if there are criminal motivation, the authorities can and will pre-empt a happening and will arrest you and press charges before it happens. If you are in possesion of several kilograms of ammonium nitrate and deemed you are in their list, authorities can arrest you and lock you up for many days before you see any sun. Or even in possession of a knife. The point is if the authorities have a reason to believe there is a motive holding these items before committing a federal offence, you are it!! No waiting! However, rape is a consequence of an event.
Thanks for the clarification.
My point is there are so many con jobs going on and if victims of these cons do not come forward, the authorities may not be aware of every single con going on, hence the need to come forward.
I mentioned rape as an example.
EL.
Dear Members,
Reported from blog forum. Learned Members Please comment! Let us hope for the good!
Leaders from India, Indonesia, Australia and Singapore Has informed us that swisscash is returning back on 28th September with a new Plan which includes Ecommerce Products. They are trying to Sort out the Case on 24th September and the financial team is working out on the new Plan to Attract More investors worldwide.
Micheal Mansfeild will be Replaced By a new CFO and Swisscash Planning Offices in various Country worldwide To sort out Legal Issues which are country dependant.
Source: Leading Financial Forum
Pass it on to Your Downlines and Swisscash Investors Worldwide. keep visiting Us for More Info.
Pls quote the URL where you got your info so tht we can determine if it is the truth
Dear Michael,
The url is blogger1.info
just visit for the confirmation as you asked.
Thankx,
(one should trust the other co investors dear)
Arun
I try to verify with my top leaders, they did not receive any news from co. or BB
EL,
Who knows? Except the people running swisscash. Who are they?
I keep telling this over and over again. Please think before you ask me another question on this forum. Please ask me intelligent questions.
WHAT HAPPEN ON 18TH AUGUST?
WHY WERE ALL FOUR SWISSCASH WEBSITES TAKEN OFF THE INTERNET?
WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT? Swisscash or some other parties?
Whoever wants to throw in the towel and feels that he has waited long enough, be my guest, go ahead and make a police report
I think you are even more stupid to ask these questions- Why?? Because one one can answer you except those group of swisscash operators…
BUT one thing for sure is….THEY RAN AWAY..After made enough $$$$ for 2.5 yrs, the only sensible thing is to ran off…
SO u are the one that need to think b4 asking… not the others..
You are fully entitle to your views and opinions.
I wish you a good day.
Regards
El.
You are entitle to your views and opinions.
I wish you a good day.
Regards
EL.
“Please think before you ask me another question on this forum. Please ask me intelligent questions.”
Try this one…..
Are you part of this network of confidence tricksters and an operative of this pyramid scheme?
Because you sound like a fraudster trying to pump air into the deflating balloon.
If not, then identify yourself publicly.
I would imagine numerous insiders have participated in this forum posing as satisfied parties, or as smart observers.
They raise your confidence, then they trick you. Thats the game of the con man.
Good questions.
You are free to believe whatever you want to believe.
My email address is selfmasteryint@pacific.net.sg
My email address is not a dot com address and is registered with pacific internet and my true identity can be traced from pacific internet and my name in my identity card is PHAHLAWI RIDHA.
Regards
EL.
Well said FJHK. In this blog, there is nobody that can be trusted. Only person that can resolve all these is when Swisscash is back and active. We are all assuming .. trying to be logical and analyse … but still not precipitate
I posted the comments below on the 21st September 07.
Dear Folks,
Do not trust any news, not even from me except what Swisscash send to you by SMS or EMAIL.
Dear EL
Your views are concerned about swisscash investors. I appreciate your views and other members who debate logically.
I daily check with http://www.swisscashguide.com for any news and othr forums and post for information and confimation about starting the financial site, since I have invested for 1000 e-points.
Today I noticed that after the site addresse if you put /?ref= and then pur your trading id you get your financial site but trading id is not reported on site at left hand site.
Did anybody notice. Please confirm.
Is swisscash is going to continue on this site ?
Regards
RAVINDRA
Investors: ask yourselves….
“How were they going to generate 25% returns per month.”
If you can’t think of anything that produces that return, gold, silver, derivatives,
then you may answer… ‘they were going to pay me with the receipts from new subscribers’
That means its a pyramid scheme. Pyramid schemes always fail when confidence evaporates (there’s that C word)
R u an investor a just a busybody? If the later then I suggest you get lost.
Dear Financial Journalist SIR(YOUR KNOWN IDENTITY TO US)
Kindly let us know that are you a “alternative investment manager ” OR a “money manager” or A CEO of a company dealing in Financial Products ???
There are more than ten persons from the financial field who have told me that the returns of 25% per month are possible.. There are brokers who trade in commodities and are earning a return of more than 25 -40% per month on their Investments. Stock exchange brokers have told that paying 1% daily is possible for an expert through day trading but it cannot be guaranteeed. Thats the only difference between a local trader and an organised global trader.
Kindly let me know that IF a local trader can take out a yeild of ave 25% per month, from a local market Why cant an organised team working on a global platform where the money works 24 hrs or at least three times more than a local dealer uses the money.
By your above statement you proove to be a good critic but a very BAD money manager and leader.
Thats a frank opinion about you ….MR. HIDDEN IDENTITY… Secondly do not blame any other person for his hidden Identity when you HIDE YOUR OWN NAME …Dear!!!
Bye
HAVE A WHALE OF A TIME
Arun
Please prove it’s a pyramid scheme.
Hello,
The so called Journalist taking cover from FJHK….
Publish an article in your FJHK, if you are so sure SwissCash is a Pyramid Scheme & a Con/Scam.
Show me your guts, if you have any.
Most reputable authorities(0ver 200) won’t dare…
If you are so confident get your Editor/Publisher’s approval to print the article in your next issue.
Also, Identify(real)all in your so called FJHK involves in the writing on the negative Swisscash article/s .
Or shall we write to your so called FJHK authority about your postings/accusations in Sabahan .
Your move…
GeoGeo & Kiwi mates
Dear Folks,
Since it is hard to know who is truly who on this forum and whether the messages posted is reliable, this will be may last message on this forum.
Meanwhile, remain in good spirits and wait for news from Swisscash, as they mentioned, by sms or by email.
No matter what happens, it is not the end of the world.
I read that Walt Disney was a bankrupt 7 times.
It was a pleasure to know and exchange information with some of you.
Best wishes
EL.
Well El,
A TRUE LEADER NEVER QUITS
Dont worry about the negative commentors !!
They are everywhere and thats the reason that they are there………
You got what I want to say …..
So friend dont worry about them …..
Lets do our jobs…..
Swisscash will BE back….FOR SURE!!!
Cheer up the team
You have been doing a great job on this forum pl. continue, do not quit … thats my sincere request..
Your co mate and friend from India
Arun
Hi EL…with greetings from NZ
You are doing OOOKKK as far as we KIWIs are concern. You have been giving us sound analysis which kept our spirit high during these depressed times.
Your probing questions we felt are the best way to get to solve SC closure debacles. If the Idiot/s from the so-called FJHK are so hollow brain to answere…just stay on the sideline.
We are very confident SwissCash will be back.
Please ignore the Idiot/s who take cover under the FJHK
to request your ID while at the same same time he did not identify oneself.
For all we know, the idiot/s with his negative postings he could be a competitor with own agendas.
Expose yourself to us as well….since EL have done his part.
Please don’t use FJHK as cover…..just wondering…..your Editor knows what you are doing ??????????????????????????????????????????????????
If so, appreciate you get your Editor onboard…to this forum..(please we want genuine IDs)
EL , we want you back.
Best Wishes
GK TAN ( my ID) & all Kiwi Mates
Dear All,
To be fair to Swisscash, let’s wait till Oct 2007 and see what will happen?
My feeling is Swisscash will be keeping their promises.
Cheers!
Hi EL,
Do not worry about good and bad in the forum.
There is no forum in the world that has no negativity.
We just do what is right. Leave those negative people
alone and continue your encouraging research and development in this forum. Do not give up! Just ignore the negativity, just focus on your r and d.
Do you know your r and d have circulated around the world many times and given hope & cheers to many investors. You have many quiet supporters through out the world and in this forum. Please continue. We love you, EL.
Regards, Dr Wong.
HI EL
I HAVE BEEN READING YOUR COMMENTS SINCE LAST ONE MONTH. WE WERE VERY MUCH IMPRESSED BY YOUR VERY VERY INFORMATIVE COMMENTS. I REQUEST U TO COME BACK TO THIS FORUM, SO THAT THE EFFORTS PUT IN BY U TO STUDY AND ANALYSE THE SITUATION WILL BE FRUITFULL TO ALL THOSE WHO READ FROM THIS FORUM.
THANK U
BEST WISHES
KISHORE FROM INDIA
kiwis, arun and NthDimensions,
If you piece together all those facts of findings in the very beginning of this page, it should be suffice to prove that swisscash is in fact a pyramid or ponzi..
On the contrary, you all should proved that it was not a pyramid but rather a “organised financial team” who really invested yr $$$. Even swisscash told you all they are scammers would you all believe? All of you are just too emotional to tell yrself that look, based on all these, it is very likely a scam in the very first. I am not here to find or rebutted any persons..
Arun- you are right. 25% a mth is acheiveable. Even a few hundred % are possible. But bear this in mind, how often that you can acheived that? If you can get that kinds of returns, you can also lost heavily too. You really think “swisscash” is god..Only win but never lost? Would any investment company go of line for 36days…and counting straight? If you just based on swisscashguide.com then i can say for sure that the day will never come. Well i am not here to convince anyone, I too really hope swisscash will be back it will be a miracle but swisscash coming back is to me a impossible..I am not swisscash investors but my groups of friends and inner circles were.
Gos, like I say why r u here in the 1st place. is that to voice some frustration or nothing better to do? Those that are here are here for a reason, to be constructive and help one another understand in the best possible way
so is it a Pyramid scheme or a Ponzi?
There you goes as expected.
Now you go with a new name Gos…what happen to the corporate so called FJHK shelter as a cover.
Allow me to remind you, you still have not IDENTIFY yourself!!!
If we are told by Swisscash it is a pyramid or ponzi scheme, we will definitely accept it whole heartedly.
You seem to have the qualifications to post in Sabahan forum that Swisscash is a pyramid or ponzi we therefore challenged you to publish your proven findings in your FJHK issue.
We did not provoke you, you intimidated us.
What we did as INVESTORS was asking sensible probing questions hoping to get to the bottom of the issues.You as a NON-Investor came and joined in our chats then started abussing our cheerleader as a possible con and requested his actual identity.
You are Bloody Rude….Apology forthcoming ???
What you mentioned are just your own assumptions you should keep them to yourself as a NON-Inestor. Being a Journalist(if you really are) you should report FACTS. You shoul not be a letdown to your profession.
On the other hand, how Swisscash made its profit to that level is a well kept secret like most successful investors /speculators and maybe qualified from a school of thought that did not teach you how to.
Whatever the outcome maybe, SwissCash will inform the INVESTORS and not from any source…like you.
As a layperson , my apologies for my crude writing cos I’m not a journalist—la
Cheers Always
GeoGeo KIWI
I agree with gos. Very emotional indeed.
How can the only correct information (to swisscash investors) is from swisscash itself? I am an investor and Warren Buffet is an investor. In fact he is the number one investor in the world and the second richest man and he is not earning as much as swisscash investors, he still earns around 15-25% per year. I don’t see any micheal mansfield on the list and where are his other pictures? Is it secret too? For an American CFO that mansfield guy’s English sure doesn’t sound American by the way he uses the language.
Yes it is possible to earn 25% or a 100% but not from investing in Mutual funds (real investors would understand). If swisscash is so good how come no one from swisscash is in the richest list? Where are your facts swisscash? Anyone can build a website and then publish their ‘facts’ but it is unbiased third party information that we are looking for.
P.S. Thanks to all swisscash defenders. I had such a good laugh reading all your comments. Keep it up. I like to be entertained.
free cheers for geogeo…..
hiphip hooray hiphip hooray hiphip hooray
free cheers? Yay! free cheers. hahahaha.
I forgot to say check out http://www.financialweek.com. Search for swisscash and you’ll see what they say about swisscash. It’s nothing new but I think newcomers would appreciate the info. Call them if you wish to ask for clarification. Did anybody talk to Mansfield before? Maybe not.
Dear Mikey: the website given is not found on the net!!!
I think he meant: http://www.financialweek.net
good articles there.
Type it in yourself. Dont click on the link. Somehow it doesnt work. I also tried typing in http://www.asianinvestor.net and it works.
Here goes an experiment for myself (just ignore it):
http://www.yahoo.com
looks like financialweek.net works too. It’s funny that I can now click on the link right after I posted the comment.
I may do a piece on this as it develops. I’m a funds journalist and I write for http://www.asianinvestor.net. Check us out. My name is Simon, I can be contacted via there.
Like I say, if it is a pyramid scheme, the perp won’t be polite enough to tell you. but you’ll know from their actions and obfuscations
A friend approached me in Hong Kong. A number of Indonesians have been lured into this Swiss Cash scheme lately, and as last arrivals, of course they are seeing nothing.
In Hong Kong this constitutes an unlicensed deposit scheme. I have told them that I can help do a police report and inform their consulate.
website under maintenance
Dear Simon (FJHK): Unfortunately the site given http://www.asianinvestor.net is currently under maintenance.. .
So your identity is still not verifiable….
You sounds like you are very kind & helpful & resourceful with the backing of FJHK.
Go ahead, help your friends with the Police reports & inform their respective Consulates.
At the same time do an article in FJHK to support your claim that SC is a pyramid….why wait???
If you dare to do the above, I shall swallow the bitter pill to admit I ‘m being conned by SC and back out from the Blog.
Do It Simon(if U R who U R)
Fellow Blogger…..GeoGEo
Hey investors,together we put our fingers across and hope for the best.Life must go on even we failed this time and there is alway another path to success.
Cheer up !
Best regard
Andrew
I declare that I am a SC investor as well. When I invested in May07, I could feel that SC is fake but I went in just as well, trying to go passed the 4 months quickly so that I can importantly collect my principal. After 4 months, I would collect my ‘profit’ but unfortunately my greed got the better of me and US$16k of principal is stuck plus abt US10k of interest by now if SC is not blocked. I know deep inside SC is a scam and may not come back but also hoping it would come back. However, no news is still bad news ….. do not want analysis or deduction but just SC to re-appear and collect my US$10k. Reduce my exposure.
So as I hear both constructive as well as destructive comments, I am on both side. But most importantly need MM (if he exists!) to own up
Michael, you are not investing, you are trying to strike lottery. Don’t hope for anything. Hope is useless. If you knew that SCash is fake and yet you put your money in, then you should also face reality that you have the possibility to lose your money. You are gambling, therefore, have it in your heart to let go of the money, do not expect it to return. If your relationship with money is of a gambling nature, I do not think you should do your own investments from henceforth, you should leave it to the professionals.
The only action plan I can suggest for investors is that they go to the person who marketed it to them, and make it clear that they hold that person personally liable for a fraudulent deposit scheme, and that you will stop at nothing till they personally repay you, and you will see them in jail if needs be.
(And jail is the place – Ponzi schemes are fraud – a criminal offence)
And you have to be tough. You are the victim. Get a copy of their passport. If they’re wearing a diamond ring (bought with your commission), demand it.
If you’re waiting for MM, or your salesperson to offer an honest, cogent explanation that is not just self-serving bluff – well, I wouldn’t even want to say there is a chance in a million of that.
DEAR fjhk
Sure u must be crazy
How much have you invested ?
who is your sponsoring upline?
Did he not tell you to invest your comfortable money ?
Did you give your money to him for his hosehold Expenses?
Was not your money not sent to Swisscash ?
You sound INSANE TO ME DEAR
Was the motive of your Investment to give your sponsorer 25% returns ? Then how come you can ask money from your sponsorer who himself is at loss if swisscash is not there..
ONE THING YOU AGAIN PROOVED that you are crazy and can never work in a network system .
YOU SHOULD BE KICKED ON YOUR ASS AND THROWN OUT OF ANY NET WORKING SYSTEM YOU IDIOT>>>>>>>>
Simon, if you are Simon, earlier you mentioned Pyramid Scheme, now you mention Ponzi, so is it Pyramid or Ponzi?
Dear Swisscash Investors,
1) The court was adjourned without decision.
2) The court hearing will resume after 10 days for the Prosecutors’ Panel to present more evidences.
In view hereof, the members must continue to pray, give support by keep calm and avoid making negative and/or sensitive comments until the court’s decision is handed down.
Well I still want to remain positive until God knows when…
Agreed with simon(FJHK),
As i am not swisscash investors but only try to get some news as I am concerned with my freinds who had invested heavily in it. As what mikey mark saif, I also derived laugh or entertainment by reading some of those investors comments and remarks about swisscash. It is very funny.
Well, I can’t stop those people from having hopes as I too hoped swisscash will be back as my very good friends were affected drastically.
But looking @ it from every perspective and with sound reasoning, the return of swisscash is almost like striking lottery..or impossible..It is because of such belief and gulible trust from you people that aloows swiscash to return but in another HYIP and con in another way in time to come.
gos,
putting people down does not make you smarter
if you are concerned about your friend, help him to make a police report.
I wish to thank the owner of this blog, Mt Gaman, for graciously allowing people to post discussions on his blog and spending the time to moderate it, I am sure it takes up quite a bit of time.
This is a great scheme run by investment titans. Its not a ponzi scheme but a hedge fund style operation that uniquely, has made available to domestic helpers who don’t ask too many questions.
The outperformance strategy is sound and robust – tailor-made for dynamic income generation on a replicable basis month to month. You are lucky people, what an opportunity !
Specific details of the strategy are unavailable as we do not want anyone else to know our tactical asset allocation. Its our secret.
We also cannot tell investors how we invest their money. We ask you to ‘trust us’.
Current delays notwithstanding (our electricity got cut off because we forgot to pay the bill), we are convinced normal service will be resumed shortly and you will all get rich quick. Thats the important thing.
In the meantime, please send us more money. This time you will get a bonus dividend of 50% per month interest. Just make the cheque payable to ‘CASH’ as always.
Pay now, have faith, don’t worry be happy !
cheques have never been the mode of payment
Dear Geogeo:
If you wish to know the name of the new head of Swisscash, please leave your email address. I can forward you the info…
Madame,
If u wish May I also have the Information You wish To share with Geo geo, If and only if you think it right.
Thanking you in anticipation
Arun
my email is : arunmehrotraa@yahoo.com
Dear Dragonlady,
Why so secretive, why not share the info with us, we’re also SC investors.
Dragonlady,
I m also interested in any info u like to share about the new head of swisscash. I m also a kiwi investor and had been dead anxious like anyone else. thks
email is glory7x@yahoo.co.nz
yes pls mail @ srrupasri @yahoo.co.in thk u
Hello DragonLady,
Good Morning,
Please mail me via geotank@gmail.com
Thanks
GeoGeo
Dear Dragonlady,
Do you have any source of info pertaining to the court hearing that it was adjourned until 10 days’ time. And what is the likely impact, if any, on the supposed return of SC on 28th Sept. being publicized?
I would love to know the name of the new head of swisscash. Could drop me a line at oppt4millionaires@yahoo.com too. Thanks.
Any other serious investor may give their comments.
Dragon Lady can you tell me what exactly happen today in court?
What is the name of the new head of sc and the new website?
have any investor went to the court today to ask questions from the persons in mala? This is a good opportunityt o meet face to face with someone from the co.
carlton Jamaica awaits answer from anyone
help?
Help?
dragon Lady am desperate could u email me the site or information
whisperinglas@yahoo.com
desperate!!
Hi dragonlady
I am very interested to know too..my email tea_shake@yahoo.com
Thanks.
Hi dragonlady
I am very interested to know too..my email hj_only@hotmail.com
Thanks.
Hi dragonlady,
Why don’t u share with us, we’re SC investors also maa!!! Why so afraid.
Hi dragonfly,
Oklah,If the info can’t be exposed due to some technical reason, pls email me the latest info on SC to aj_anggun@yahoo.com
Tq
Ha..ha…The new CFO is mansfield michael.. and the new company is cashswiss under swiss hedge funds and starts round 2 of conning..
regards,
danial fm malaysia
Hi Dragonlady,
Sorry about the above empty comment.
Please sent me the info, my e-mail: y.danial@yahoo.com
Thank you.
regards,
danial
Hi Dragonlady,
Can you email to me as well pls: rukesh27@gmail.com
I’m sorry I upset people. It wasn’t my wish to do so.
I realise now that its a delicate and sensitive situation and those of you who invested already know that perfectly well.
I’ve decided not to write a investment management article on the subject for my publication, but will try to assist those acquaintances of mine who are panicking right now. People who really can’t afford to lose their money.
So it just leaves me to wish you luck and good fortune, fingers crossed.
….signing off.
Thanks Simon for your best wishes.
I ‘m also sorry being rude to you at times, probably I was hard pressed to get urgent answers to the SC debacle.
Its good to hear that you are assisting your mates during these uncertain depressed times. Hope you are successful in that.
Please accept my sincere apology for the harsh language used in the replies to your postings. I like to withdraw them.
Kind regards & Cheers
GeoGeo
Yes, swisscash starting its financial site has become sensitive issue,since people are emotionally involved in it and looking for big dreams for financial happiness for self,family and friends. I think that is nothing wrong in it to do so. I am myself swisscash investor and do look forward to continue to gain financial freedom.
No matter what one says, let us all unite and think positively, since I think swisscash is not hyip and fly by night operators.
Hi,
Dragon Lady,
Please also e-mail me at : bammu1460@sify.com
tks
Hi dragonlady
I am very interested to know too..my email hangyi3376@163.com
Thanks.
Hello.. anybody got any news from court yesterday between amir hamzah, swisscash and Malaysian SC?
Hello..anybody got any news from court yesterday between amir hassan, swisscash and Malaysian SC?
any news from the court in Mala?
any investor went to the court case in mala to see if anyone really exist from Swiss cash?
Nothing happen at the high court of Malaysia yesterday… Maybe the court appearing date will be set at a later date… Rumor has it that a some kind of mediation may be going on abroad between Malaysian SC, Amir and SMF……..
Check out the court case of 9/24/07.
http://www.mahkamah.gov.my/causelist/hc/hc4/latesthc4/24.9.2007-YA.pdf
Look under Defenden (Defendant): I did not see any names related to the case we all so wanting to know about…
Source: http://www.moneymakergroup.com/Swisscash-wwwswisscash-t26058.html&st=14055
posting 14060.
At the mean time if you so desire to see the SC account (But DO NOT USE YOUR OWN ID and password–this is a fake website) go to http://www.swisscash25.org, and login as inoum0127001, password: 123456 you can see the SC account EXACTLY the same with some minor variations: No SSL lock on the right hand corner… The sign in date is fixed at 7/26/07 and date of birth is fixed at 7/1/1970… But the SIP plan with the certificate and the SFP plan are all functional… Amazing — AGAIN: This is a fake website. Swisscash25.org is registered to the same organization as swisscash25.net and the .net site is stated as a fake website on swisscashguide.com by MM on 9/15/07.
The reason for posting this here to let others see how real a fake one can be.. And why others go through trouble to have fake SC websites? Have fun…
I read on Baidu.com that swisscash25.org could be the real SC website. swisscashguide.com declared swisscash25.net is a fake website for security reasons. But swisscash25.org is swisscash25.net. Even swisscashguide.com ABOUT SWISSCASH was referencing swisscash25.net…
Anyway we could all be wrong. But just amazing to have someone look at it from another angle…
There are a lot of activities on swisscashguide.com.. The same happens right before 9/15/07… Let’s see if we are getting another announcement soon…
Another place to check is the Malaysian SC website press release..
http://www.sc.com.my/
Dear Dragonlady,
I have visited the site and pressrelease but could not find any news pertaining to the swisscash case in the malaysian High Court.
Do you have authentic news about what happened on monday in the trial which was due..
Thankx
Arun
Can someone in Malaysia please help to check if you can access swisscashguide.com?
Regards
EL.
Thanks for all the encouraging words to those who have expressed them to me. I appreciate your efforts to write to me and post your comments here.
Regards
EL.
Good day EL,
WELCOME BACK BRO…………
GeoGeo
hey,
anyone know what happened to swisscashguide.com? it seems to be ‘not working’…
Hi El
So glad to know u r back
Regards
Hi El
The website has been blocked by My govt
DragonLady
try this web http://www.sc.com.my
I dun c anything or news on the court case
Regards
Dear sw28: http://www.sc.com.my currently has not posted anything about swisscash since the 9/13/07 press release regarding blocking of swisscashguide.com. The news from Malaysia is that Malaysia SC did not have enough evidence, the hearing has been postponed to October 8, 2007..
check out memberswisscash.com, the count down is gone, the Swisscash maintenance light bulb is on instead… Not sure what that means…
Dear Kensei: swisscashguide.com is still working….
I decipher it as that this case would be thrown out soon due to lack of evidence. Either way, someone or party will be made to look like a fool. Doesn’t surprise me at all.
THE COURT CASE (COMMERCIAL DIVISION):
Suit No:D7-22-805-07 between SecCom and 7 defendants.
The case on the 24 Sept 2007 at the High Court of Malaya was only a 2nd hearing. Only the prosecuting and defending lawyers were present. None of the 7 defendants were present. No decision has been made except the case is scheduled to continue on 23 Oct 2007 for mention only and it will be held 9.00am at the same place:Kompleks Mahkamah,Jalan Duta,Kuala Lumpur,Room D7(Dagang 7) at Aras 4(Level 4). The general public can attend there to observe. You can go there before or after 9.00am. This is the latest update we have at this juncture. Kindly refrain from making sensitive remarks as the case is still pending.
Thank you.
dragonlady can you chang your name
In Malaysia,we still can access swisscashguide.com via proxy connection with no problem. There is no further news update there.
Dr Wong or anyone, can you pls narrate how to access Swisscash via proxy conn.? Thanx
Dr Wong hope you don’t mine teach me how to access
swisscashguide.com
Thanks
Andrew
Dear Dragon lady,El and Geo Geo,
Please reply to my mail Its very Important for my entire team………
You know why
Arun
WHAT HAPPENED DURING THE COURT HEARING ON 24-09-07:
It started with the prosecuting lawyer submitting his evidences and claims orally before the Judge.
When it was time for the defending lawyer to counter it, the Judge adjourned for a short break of 15 minutes. When it was time to resume, both sides of the lawyers agreed to see the Judge to have the hearing in chamber where the public would not be able to hear. When they came out of the chamber, it was adjourned for lunch break & to resume at 2.30pm. When the lawyers met after the lunch break, they again agreed to meet the Judge and the hearing continued in chamber. After they came out of the chamber, the case for the day just ended like this. It was not known to the public what really transpired in the chamber. What we know is that the next court case is on the 23 Oct 2007 for a court mention only. What is it all about the coming court mention, we have no idea of it except to pray and hope for the best.
dear jamila muhammad
so if sid is open after 23Oct
THANKS JAMILA
Dear Andrew: Please give me your email and I can give you the info you are asking for..
http://www.china.org.cn/english/business/226045.htm
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Illegal fake fund found out
According to a Xinhuanet report, the Securities Commission of Malaysia shut down a newly launched website set up by Swiss Mutual Fund (SMF) on September 15, charging that it was engaged in illegal fundraising activities.
On the same day, tens of thousands of Chinese SMF investors’ desperate hopes for the reopening of SMF’s website ended when they finally realized that the fund was a con scheme and that their money was gone forever. They began reporting the fraud to the authorities. Now, the State Administration for Commerce and Industry and the Ministry of Public Security are currently investigating the case.
As early as this May, a Chinese surnamed Dong in Tai’an of east China’s Shandong Province reported to the local industry and commerce administration that Wei Lixin, a sales agent, had persuaded him to buy into SMF. But Wei had disappeared and Dong could not cash in his funds.
Talking with Dong, government officials found out that SMF promised a 300 percent return, a rate too good to be true. According to Dong, Wei coaxed him into investing 8,000 yuan (US$1065) into the fund by pledging a gain of 400,000 yuan (US$ 5,3266) in 30 months. If Dong persuaded others to buy into the fund, he would get a 10 percent cut from each one’s investment, Wei had promised.
A special team was formed to investigate the case. They found out that SMF was not registered with the China Securities Regulatory Commission, or the Ministry of Civil Affairs, or the People’s Bank of China. Thus the fund was an illegal, underground scam. Analyzing how the fund worked, the team concluded that SMF was a pyramid scheme by nature that operated online in the disguise of an international fund. SMF’s strategy was to defraud investors out of money by promising high returns.
On June 10, the police in Tai’an took Wei Lixin and her accomplice, Chen Yong, into custody. Afterwards, considerable evidence was produced, pointing out their unlawful activities in running the fake fund.
According to the People’s Daily story, Wei and Chen confessed that SMF attracted at least 170,000 investors in China, and cajoled no less than 1.3 billion yuan (US$173 million) out of these people. The story also viewed the case as the biggest online pyramid scheme to date in terms of the quantities of people and money involved.
SMF was introduced to China early this year. The “fund” rapidly garnered fame for its high rate of return – 300 percent and established a large number of believers. Relatives or friends who guaranteed the profitability and vowed to take any responsibility often brought in new investors in the fund. This made the bogus fund appear very real to other investors.
After buying SMF, an account along with a password would be given to each investor. He or she could log onto SMF’s official website to check losses and gains of the non-existent fund. Before the website was closed on August 18, it had more than 200,000 views per day. Actually, investors could get returns – not from so-called SMF turnover – but from the new investors’ money. Greedy, they immediately bought more funds. Significantly, the investors could not make any deal through their online accounts at the SMF website.
In fact, the SMF has already been identified as fraudulent in other countries and regions. On April 19, 2007, Malaysia’s Securities Commission and banks warned Malaysian investors against SMF. They also advised those who fell into the trap to report the fraud. Moreover, the Swiss Embassy and consulates in Malaysia and Singapore stated that it was illegal for SMF to use “Swiss” in its trademark: the fund was not registered in Switzerland. Earlier Malaysia’s biggest bank, Maybank, upon discovering that SMF had used “MayBank2U.com” as a trademark in its brochures, announced that the bank had no business relations whatsoever with SMF. The Securities and Futures Commission of Hong Kong issued a notice on its website this June, saying that the SMF’s website was fraudulent and also warned investors of four SMF-related websites.
Additionally, before Chinese authorities actually intervened in the SMF case, some IT professionals discovered that the SMF’s website was a virtual host: this was very abnormal, seeing that the fund had claimed a 60-year history. They also discovered that SMF had transferred money not directly through bank accounts but via an intermediary service, or network payment system (NPS). In other words, SMF did not dare to use bank services like other normal funds.
(China.org.cn by Pang Li, September 27, 2007)
I stopped reading further when I saw:
“SMF promised a 300 percent return, a rate too good to be true.”
I have to tell my associate that his forex trading account is a figment of his imagination, that his 300% return in 28 days is pure fantasy.
Pls read a pleading message :
http://www.memberswisscash.com/
It is unnerving to make us wait for 40days with no SMS or genuine message.
RM35 Mln Swisscash Monies Ordered To Be Returned To Malaysia
KUALA LUMPUR, Sept 27 (Bernama) — The Securities Commission (SC) has achieved a breakthrough in its civil enforcement case against the Swisscash Internet investment scheme when it secured a court order to direct one of the defendants, Amir Hassan, to transfer back to Malaysia all Swisscash monies held in bank accounts overseas within seven days.
About RM35 million is currently held in six bank accounts in Hong Kong and eight bank accounts in Singapore, the SC in a statement here today.
“As Swisscash is a worldwide scam that operates in the borderless Internet realm, the SC is working closely with regulators from seven other countries to combat these illegal activities,” the commission said.
“This cross-jurisdictional collaboration has led to the discovery of valuable information that has facilitated investigations,” it added.
Once transferred back to Malaysia, the monies will be subject to the worldwide Mareva freezing orders pending the outcome of civil proceedings filed by the SC earlier this year against Amir Hassan, Albert Lee Kee Sien, Kelvin Choo Mun Hoe, Dynamic Revolution Sdn Bhd, Swiss Mutual Fund (1948) SA, SMF International Ltd and SMF (1948) International Ltd.
“This achievement in SC’s civil proceedings ensures that Swisscash monies are held safely, and within the jurisdiction of the Malaysian courts so they can be subject to any order made in the proceedings,” the commission said.
“Investors are again reminded that neither Swiss Mutual Fund nor Swisscash are licensed by the SC,” it said.
To date, the SC has blocked four websites related to Swisscas, namely http://www.swisscash.net, http://www.swisscash.biz, http://www.swissmutualfund.biz, and http://www.swisscashguide.com.
The commission said it would continue to take all measures to combat investment scams, including blocking access to more websites, and taking appropriate enforcement action against its operators and agents.
source:http://www.bernama.com.my/bernama/v3/news_business.php?id=287287
Gaman,
Considering all the unpleasant news we have had lately, I hope that the operators of Swisscash get their due justice. No one should feel sorry for them, because they have been irresponsible and have let investors down big time.
Interestingly, before 15th September, I sent an email to Bruneiswisscash to complain about the unprofessional behaviour of the Swisscash Management. I got a reply ( no name was given, just BSC) that they were the brokers as well and had nothing to do with the Management of Swisscash and advised me to wait for 15th September to see what happens.
We all know now that 15th Sept came and nothing happened.
On Friday 21 September I visited the website Swisscashguide.com. I was unable to log into my account, but manage to click on “Contact Us”. I was able to send them an email and asked when and how long more do investors have to wait for a response from Swisscash Management.
On Saturday 22 September I received another e-mail from Bruneiswisscash (BSC), telling me that they do not have any knowledge when Swisscash will be back but updated me about the court case in Malaysia on Monday 24 September. It even said that it will post any updated news on the blog. Which one I am not sure.
On Wednesday 26 September, I wrote to BSC and asked how is it that he/she had responded to me, when in the first instance I sent my mail to Swisscashguide.com and not BSC. It appears that the people running the Swisscash and Bruneiswisscash websites are the same. I sensed something fishy,and asked for clarification but to this moment have not heard back from BSC.
There is no MM, there is no New York Office. It’s just a bunch of Asian con men, probably from surrounding Asian countries, who has been devious and had not intention to generate good returns for investors, only themselves. It is a ploy that has paid off handsomely for those responsible.
Folks, do not feel sorry for any of these blokes when the full force of the law deals with them.Please do not defend their irresponsible, despicable and deceiving behaviour, in the way that they have chosen to deal with our investement.
Thank You
Dear Folks,
Acoording to the MSC websites. they have blocked access to
swisscash.net
swisscash.biz
swissmutualfund.biz and the latest
swisscashguide.com
Question
What happened to http://www.sip25.com ?
What happen to http://www.scmutualfund.com ?
If MSC did not block them, who did? Swisscash?
Another question?
The MSC blocked access to swisscashguide.com. People in Mlaysia are not able to access, but those outside Malaysia can access.
Does this mean that the MSC is not responsible for the worldwide blockage of Swisscash websites, since they only blocked access in Malaysia?
Swisscash claims that thhe websites were affected by the worlwide mareva injunction ………
Who is telling the truth?
Let me have your thoughts.
EL
One thing for sure is that Swisscash is not telling the truth. It is very obvious that they are not genuine but they managed to blind people by paying them their dues. When I was first to introduced to swisscash by a friend of mine a few months ago I decided to do some research. I found a lot a good source of information on swisscash. I asked my friend questions based on the information I got. He said to me:
‘Dont try to me a hero. 80% of what you said you don’t even understand. I could easily answer all your questions but It’s not my style to sms you the answers. I prefer to meet and answer all your questions.’ At this point I knew what he was going to show me; his bank account, so I said no and I demanded answers by phone or sms. And all I got was bullshit. We even exchanged links but all I got from him was information from swisscash blogspots provided by swisscash investors, not third party.
He said a lot of things about me especially how stupid I am, how outdated I am, how I shouldn’t be running my own business because I can’t take a risk. At this point I got really pissed. I was the one with the more reliable information but I was the one who got called stupid. I asked him to answer just one last question before I fuck off. It’s about their address in New York. Why is the travel agent Exclusive Departures using the same address as swisscash? He replied to me by saying that is just their virtual office, have you heard of offshore?
I said to myself, ‘Self, does this guy think Im stupid or what?’ Have you heard of a virtual office with a physical address before?
He kept on reminding me how stupid I am and how smart swisscash investors are. I was getting seriously pissed at this point. I asked him to prove swisscash’s address but he gave me more bullshit. All his answers from the beginning were bullshit. I decided to ask him one last question:
‘Why is swisscash not responding to all allegations of fraud and scam?’ He answer was ‘Swisscash doesn’t feel the need to comment because it does not feel threatened. They have a lot more investors in the world’ I immediately detected another bullshit answer so I simply said ‘ok’ to him.
And that is how I lost a friend.
NEWS FROM MALAYSIAN NEWS PAPER.
SC gets order to recover funds
KUALA LUMPUR: The Securities Commission (SC) obtained a court order yesterday to retrieve RM35mil in SwissCash money held in 14 overseas banks and have it sent back here.
After the money is transferred to Malaysia, it would be frozen pending the outcome of a civil suit brought by the SC against Amir Hassan, Albert Lee Kee Sien, Kelvin Choo Mun Hoe, Dynamic Revolution Sdn Bhd, Swiss Mutal Fund (1948) S.A. SMF International Limited and SMF (1948) International Limited, the SC said in a statement.
Swisscash is a worldwide online investment scheme that promises high returns. It is illegal in Malaysia and the SC has described it as a scam.
The High Court ordered Amir to transfer the money, held in six banks in Hong Kong and eight banks in Singapore, back to Malaysia within seven days.
“This is to ensure the Swisscash money is held safely and within the jurisdiction of the Malaysian courts should any order be made in the proceedings,” the statement said.
In June, the SC obtained a worldwide Mareva injunction against the three people and the four companies for their alleged involvement in the Swisscash investment scheme to prevent them from disposing their assets.
The SC and Bank Negara say SwissCash has no licence to collect such funds and, as such, it is illegal.
The SC is working with seven other countries to curb the illegal activities.
HI guys,
Before Malaysian government take all our money, we should report to FBI so atleast all the international SC investor can claim some left out money, otherwise Malaysian Government will recover the remaining money and put inside their pocket. Any suggestion pls.
Can Anyone update me in regards to what is happening. Are there anyone representing Singapore investers.
Thank you
Refer to this on http://sc-news.blogspot.com/
A reader named rufio today wrote :
we heard that europe investor received email and sms from new management aka swisscash anybody can confirm this news
Anyone from Europe in this blogsite
It is very clear cut from the very begining that swisscash is a scam. On 18th Aug, it went offline and I had knew that I will not be back.
At this pt of time, it is futile to continue waiting, investors can do now is take it as investment loss and forget abt it or take it as investment loss and lodge a report to authorities on this internet fraud case. What other way can investors do? It’s nothing..
LODGING REPORTS ON SWISSCASH SCAM TO AUTHORITIES!!!
If SwissCash does not return by 1st few days of October 2007, I suggest all global investors unite together to report to world authorities, some of which are like the FTC and FBI in America or perhaps, we can try the worldlawdirect.com, fraud.org, etc. Some can also lodge reports against the two Asia Directors of SwissCash. I am sure some global investors have experience or knowledge in reporting fraud/scam, could you please advise on this matter. Let’s discuss how to go about it just in case we can form an ad hoc committee for the benefit of all investors. We must NOT let fraud criminals live in freedom at the expense of many innocent people! We must move fast if we have to do so!
YES I APPRECIATE
Jamaica West Indies
No credible information for jamaican investor.
The main upline have no factual information for sc
Theere is no number for the main upline who is said to be located in New York?
I am trying to track her down whenever dshe return to the Island(Jamaica).
She have only sent us a rude email with cut and paste from other website no direct info from sc
Dear Folks,
There is a website where someone logs in and was able to see their trading account. Some of you may have seen it on other blogs.
When you post something here, please take note that your posting becomes public information.
How do you think MSC can keep track of all swisscash websites unless information is easily available on the internet? Out of so many millions websites, how does MSC know about swisscashguide.com?
If Swisscash wish to come back with a new name so as to avoid restrictions on its ability to operate without any harrassment, please do not do the exact opposite …………..
Try not to sabotage yourself, knowingly or unknowingly
Regards
EL.
checking
Dear Investors,
There is a very famous story in India about a person named Kalidaas, you know what this gentleman did?
HE cut the branch (opposite side) on which he was sitting. He was declared the greatest of fools.
Some persons are suggesting to attempt the same thing
herein.
I fully agree to you El, and suggest all the investors to keep their cool.
Thankx
Arun
Hi folks,
Good morning from NZ,
I saw a post by RAVINDRA say that he was given a NEW PASSWORD to login to his OLd ID to a new WEBSITE by his Upline in Iran.
He was able to view his A/C with his balance & interest of the last month.
The post have since been wiped out from this blog.
What happen, is it true or false…by RAVINDRA ???
Can RANVINDRA response please ??????????????
GEOGEO
can somebody email the new site as i was not able to see it. they have deleted it from the blog
have anyone logged on or try to wire funds from their account?
email me at
whisperinglas@yahoo.com
Dear Investors,
Have patience, we cannot afford to be “Kalidas” and we all have to keep full patience and act in a very responsible manner till the case in the court is on.
Help swisscash to come out of the MYSC problem for which all the other investors and all the leaders of swisscash would be greatful to you.
We all know that The Interpol and SC does not have adequate proofs against swisscash and they are trying their best to collect some. So it is my sincere request to you to think before you post a comment keeping in mind the interest of all the Investror brotherin .
Thankx
If you are a true investor and your money is out there in the hands of whom you dont know’ Its hard to be patient”
the Dis respect of not communicating with us is not valid at all.
So recheck yourself” unless you ahve more information than us.
please share what u know
No one knows for sure which is the real website. Thus we can’t ascertain that swisscashguide.com is the real one just because malaysia blocked it.
As to what I suspect, most probably all swisscash related website are from the swisscash operators to confuse investors and buy time..or create the impression that they are coming back in a matter of time.
1 Oct..ACF? EMF? All gone..Just a virtual shares no value at all. Epts?..We had all be conned until now..
Dear El,
It seems like you are encouraging people to participate in an illegal investment secretly.
Let’s ASSUME Swisscash is NOT a SCAM. It still doesn’t have the license to collect funds to invest. In other words it is still illegal and IT WILL SHUT DOWN AGAIN and rob people off their hard earned cash.
Combine scam and illegal together, you could become a suspect.
Do you have the heart to lure people into losing their money again?
Maybe you should think about it.
You are assuming that people are stupid and dont know how to differentiate what is right and what is wrong.
You are assuming that people join because they cannot think for themselves.
EL.
People join because they have been deceived. That’s not uncommon.
I am sorry,but i dont buy that line of argumment, but I will defend to my death your right to say it.
EL.
I didn’t expect you to buy it.
Pleople have not been DECEIVED. Maybe it is u, we were told of the risks involved cuz of the high returns, we r also adults here, please stop posting negative comments and buzz off!
sw28,
You’re not the owner of this website. Sorry. See article above if you haven’t already. It’s all negative man. Wake up and move on sucker.
0 Legislation, Legality, Licensing
13.1 Is SwissCash a legal business?
Yes.
13.2 Is investing in SwissCash legal for me?
That would depends on your, and your country’s, judiciary interpretation of legality. Some countries prohibit their nationals from investing in off-shores while others prohibit investment through Internet facilities. Most financially liberal countries do not prohibit such investments. We do not advise our investors to break any law. As far as SwissCash is concerned, it is a legitimate Financial Facility under SwissMutual Fund’s platform for its global investors.
Swisscash does not have the license to collect funds for investment. That means it’s illegal.
It’s not about countries prohibiting their nationals from investing in ‘off-shores’. Who told you that? Micheal Mansfield?
I’m sure you have HongKong Bank in your country. They deal with mutual funds too. They have India funds and China funds which are both offshore if you are not in that country but I’m guessing that most mutual funds are country specific. It’s just that they have a license to collect funds and swisscash don’t.
If it is not illegal elsewhere why is every swisscash investor in the world affected?
Dear Mikely,
From which country do u belong?
Did Micheal mansfield come to you and asked you to invest in his company?
See mike the company is sitting in an off shore country and will abide the laws of the land of the country where it hails from.
If you like you may invest if you dont you go ahead…
Why dont you keep it simple for the Investors
Pl do not try to confuse them.
Thats my request to a good for nothing analyst
Thankx
Monty
Hi, Mikey!
You could be right, Mareva injunction affects every commenwealth country. Since the most-or should i mention: ALL?-of SCash bank accounts are in these commenwealth country, all investors are affected. SCash no longer able to pay.
But, tell me something, mikey: why do you look so upset while you mentioned that you not inveting with SCash and made money somewhere else?
Calm down ,buddy..
Regards;
godfing3rz
Hi, Mikey!
You could be right, Mareva injunction affects every commenwealth country. Since the most-or should i mention: ALL?-of SCash bank accounts are in these commenwealth countries, all investors are affected. SCash no longer able to pay.
But, tell me something, mikey: why do you look so upset while you mentioned that you not inveting with SCash and made money somewhere else?
Calm down ,buddy..
Regards;
godfing3rz
Dear Mikely,
May I have the privelidge to know how much have you Invested in swisscah? 100$, 200$, or perhaps a thousand.
Dear It seems to me that you are a empty bonker and u are here just for the sake of harrasing and mentally torturing the swisscash investors.
As it is that they are in a grave situation with their dear money at stake and you good for nothing fellow are just troubling their minds instesd of consoling them.
If you are an investor then tell us otherwise brother
just get lost from this forum and piss out your negative analysis to some of the empty-pocketed, heavy brain good for nothing analytical piss-outs.
yes if you do have a good news for the investors your comments are welcome here.
Thankx
Monty
If everybody in this forum only want to see, read or hear “good news” about swisscash- Then it is even worse off than hearing bad news..Just face it, since 18th Aug 2007, the day it went offline, what good news really came out? Nothing..From 25th Aug, to 1st Sep and than to 15th Sep..and then a news from a fakesite claiming to rebranding and will receive the sms or email shortly…till now.. A website whereby initially linked to a so called fake site swisscash25.net..Can we believed the statement make in it? Who are so free and made the fake site? HAckers or swisscash’s operators themselves.. If they really decided to scam on 18th Aug, why bother to do all these nonsense and put them in jeopardy? If what someone say is true- That the email sent to swisscashguide.com was replied by bruswisscash@gmail.com than something is also fishy…But will those people makes such a stupid mistakes to use the bruswisscash to reply just like the hyperlink to swisscash25.net? Maybe yes or no…
One thing for sure is that swisscash coming back is as good as zero..So what good news can we expected out from this? In fact no news abt swisscash at all.. What factors makes all those who believe that swisscash will returns? Or just you just don’t want to take it that it is a scam in the first place? BAck in apr 2005 when it first launched..
From the information gathered, the starters of this swisscash originated in malaysia and singapore.
3 big timers from swisscash…part of this scam group are Ee chang ku, Albert Lee and the so called BB Ng… Above them, there are at least 10 others in the back scene…The first 2 from malaysia and the BB Ng is from singapore.. I would advise all investors in these 2 countries to report to their relevant authorities.
for Mikey Mark
you are entitle to your comments but do not try to swing your bat at others to proof your point. For all we know you may be wrong too. Only a smarty ass do that to cover what he does not know
Hi Monty,
I don’t recall talking to you but Micheal Mansfield did come to me asking me to invest in his company. He was my toilet cleaner at the time. I told him to go back to school.
I see that Swisscash made you do exactly what they wanted you to do i.e. Take the money and shut the fuck up. They must be laughing at you guys right now.
You know what good for nothing analysts do.They think! You were simply emotional. You don’t need proof of Swisscash’s credibility. All you want is the money but Swisscash is not going to give it to you forever as promised.
See how contradicting they are? First they say guaranteed pricipal and then they say high risk. Which one is it?
How much money have I invested? More than you I guess and I earn even more. How arrogant are you Monty to think that swisscash is the only way to invest? I don’t invest in mutual funds i.e. I don’t go to a fund manager and ask him to invest my money. I buy my own stock based on the company’s financial performance as well as who the CEO is. If I find the numbers are good enough and the CEO is the kind of person I would want to run my own company then I buy their stock. The information is available at msn and yahoo and not some lies fabricated by unknown company claiming to exist since 1948.
As for you (Im not saying this of other swisscash investors), it seems to me that you didn’t analyze your investment before you take the plunge. You were investing blindly. I say this based on ‘Thats my request to a good for nothing analyst’ above.
By the way, I didn’t know you own this place. It certainly is not you writing the article at the beginning. If you could read past your measly bank account you would see that the article DOES not support swisscash. Instead it gives evidence that Swisscash is a scam.
So if you don’t like what is being said in this forum, you should buzz off. If not show me evidence of Swisscash’s credibility with support. I don’t want some bullshit from Swisscash website.But now Im merely in support of the above article.
To Glory,
Thanks.
P.S. Anyone got to see micheal mansfield at court?
Dear Mike,
If you own up that you have not invested in Swisscash then what the hell are you here for? to create problems in the mind of swisscash Investors or to proove that you are a very knowledgable Pinokio.
It is my sincere request to keep your nose away and do not poke your nose here uselessly.
Or To put it directly should i say Something…….
Monty
Monty,
I am here because I want to. You just implied yourself that you are stupid by putting down people who analyze, who think. Why should anyone listen to someone stupid like you Monty? This is a forum discussing about swisscash as a scam you idiot. It’s not just for people who support swisscash.
Hi g0dfing3rz,
I’m not actually upset at all. I used to be in the oil drilling industry. It’s a tough field to work in. Most of us have the ability to swear without being angry. We’re also used to hearing bullshit from contractors so it’s fairly easy to detect when someone talks bullshit.
I just like this circus here. It’s amazing how people cant the truth but accept lies so easily. Im just here to learn a bit about human behaviour.
Maybe these guys are afraid of me, they’re afraid to be wrong. That’s why they (like monty and crew) dont want me here. They just cant stop me.
Mikey,
I can see. I always apreciate a sharp and critical analyzes. But keep them also constructive, please. Here, the folks who have put their money in, are in desperate, including me myself.
I’m from Indonesia and have invested only 1k. For some of you guys here, it might sound a little, but for me it means a lot.
Where are you from? I manage to to do something for my last stand. Therefor I need to know something precisely before I move on. I may need your assist.
Regards
SC IS comfirm GAME OVER…PLS everybody do something so able to sue that BB NG ,MR Ee and Amir.Bring back all the money back to M’sia.
In Malaysia,do u know there is another super master swisscash appointed dealer who is much bigger than Amir? I say much bigger….No one know right? Actually, there are ONLY 2 swisscash appointed dealer in Malaysia, Mr. Ee Chang Ku is another one which earned much more than Amir, a few million USD per mth till now but his a/c as far as I know still not yet freeze by BNM, BNM & SC has interview Amir a few time but they don’t interview Ee at all. As appointed swisscash dealer and earning mullti-million usd per mth can be undetected by his own swisscash members is a joke. I have meet Ee and Albert when both of them come, their income are extremely huge compare to Amir. Amir popular due to his high profile marketing but not necessary earning much as low profit person, at least he takes care of us. So stop pointing the finger to Amir here as he under investigation now.
Here is the photo of another appointed Malaysia swisscash dealer which is super rich now. Most of the forum people here are under Mr Ee, don’t believe check with Serenechea, Swissstalk, KL-Flyer and simply choose one people here, ask your up up up line, you will surprise all people are under him. He is the one who bring swisscash into Malaysia initially and not Amir. If you need to get direct info, seek for him for advice as he has direct connection with Albert & BB NG.
Where is Albert, Ee and BB NG? now, please stand forward to explain to our investor here. We need you as swisscash appointed representative in time of crisis.
We hope swisscash dealer stand up and solve the problem for us, not hiding please.
Look like it confirm scam now, I told you Ee know a lot about the co. and he NEVER review the truth to his investor and downline, he is the closed dealer to BB Ng, he know what happen. Since Amir RM35 Million is to share amount investors, I believe Ee have almost the same amount too as he is much bigger than Amir. You should ask sec com to take civil action against another swisscash appointed dealer and we will have RM70-80 Million to share. Please do so now and contact Encik Suhaifi Hussain, 03-62048190, he incharge of swisscash scam case under security commisioner, http://www.sc.com.my
I have help the investor gather some information about Ee, so this make complant and investigation easily. All the banking record will show how the flow of money from dealer to scam swisscash co.
PUBLIC BANK BERHAD
Account Name (Beneficiary): Ee Chang Ku
Account No: 3-1244337-21
MAYBANK BERHAD
Account No: 1-54080-04339-8 – Ee Chang Ku
USD A/C in Hong Kong (Worldwide Fund Collection on behalf of co)
Account Name (Beneficiary): Ee Chang Ku
Bank Name: HSBC Limited
ABA or Swift #: HSBCHKHHHKH
BANK Account No #: 602156242888
CHINA ICBC Bank (www.icbc.com.cn)
Account Name (Beneficiary): Ee Chang Ku
Account No: 9558804000153828849
Dear all Scash Investors,
Maybe this help and good news for members. Scash is scam now and everybody should sue now…. as i get info from private detective…
first this big liar BB Ng, his real name is Ng Choon Beng, his IC is S7305335H, his house is at 91, Zion Road
#14 -175, Singapore 160091.
Albert Lee address is 310, Taman Satria Jaya , Kuching, Sarawak.
If anyone have info on BB NG, please provide here, this will make INTERPOL police investigation easily. Please report NOW and don’t wait, don’t let the appointed dealer and co ppl run away. He probably have move the fund to Australia from a realiable source
REPORT NOW, PPL, DON’T WAIT. CO HAVE CHEAT US, WE SHOULD TREAT THEM BACK.
2 other Ee chang Ku’s sidekicks are Serene Chea and Kenneth Lim Hp:97475157. Both are singaporeans. Lodges a police report soonest…
am carlton From the Island of Jamaica.
I am trying to get some information of Serene Chea i understand that she is the main player for Jamaica. Do u have any info on her?
The money was wired to Penta Trades and Glitters gem Intl from Jamaica
can u source any of these accounts tyo see if any cash is still there?
Please report these accounts to the authorities for us.
H David
I also know that Yasmine James is the link to Serene from the caribbean. i am trying to find her but no further information on her or her husban.
can you track their account to see if they are still holding funds intheir accounts?
whisperinglas@yahoo.com
David,
Somebody inform me about this blog, I was shock! Why u say I am a sidekick? I join SC like any other investor, introduce by a friend last year, 1 year after SC was launch. I share with my close friend and relatives, just like many SC investors do. I have always tell them about risk involve in internet investment, unlike many Sc investor, I am not “Full Time” in SC, I run my own business. I have never participate in blogger or forum b4, I have never promote SC beside sharing experience.
SC situation has cause alots of confusion, anxiety and fustration, like all other SC member, we hope the site comes back asap so that we don’t lost our money.
I hope you can clarify.
Kenneth
我是新加坡人，用ＳＣ來欺诈我们的上线，比猪狗都不如、社会的人渣。要过刀山、下油锅、骗到的钱总有一天会双倍付出。
Hi not ure fwen,
Please post comment in english because we want it to be shared together among the members. Thank you
For info:
I logged into the new website and entered my trading ID and password.
It says username and password do not match.
This confirm my suspicion that this is the new website. However, as was mentioned, we will be given a new password.
EL.
Hi, El!
Which website did you reffer to?
Becareful, just because it says ‘username and password do not match’, doesn’t always mean that it is the true one.
Try different IDs, whatever. If you still see the same notification, then it’s likely a fake one as well.
Regards
Hi,
El, could u tell me the name of new website that u try to log in. please!. ( my email address, asang23@yahoo.com ).
TQ.
swiss cash was the best investment but ,malezian government creat problem ,and now we muat solve the problem in malezy
el, could u tell me the name of the new website that u try to log in.
Hi David, if u r so sure of all the info that you have posted have u report to the person that you mentioned at the MSC. You should as you already have all the details.
Hi David,
Look like you know inside story about SC. SC suppose to pay ACF share today 1st Oct if SC never back to business than we should take action. We should take action not in Malaysian court we should take to international so all the international investor will get atleast something from our investments.
Regards
ADMIN
You make a guess?..I can’t tell you the answer..cos it is a public forum..
el, please tell us the new website name did u reffer to.
http://www.palinureinterst.com confirmed that is independent and not associated with anyone.
Admin,
Even you report to authorities, the chances of getting back $$$ or investment from swisscash is zero. Cos no one knows where the money is now even to the extend of nabbing those scammers…That’s this to say the freezing of swisscash due to mareva injuction is not possible cos there isn’t such funds exists on earth..
This whole scam thing must be from a group of people whereby those so called “regional directors” might be part of this scam thing..
Hi David,
Do you know Barclay Bank still holding US1.7million from ALBERT LEE”S Account? We can wait for couple of days or perhaps 3rd week of OCT if SC never return than we should take legal action. Any suggestion guy’s. I think all our money are kept by REGIONAL DIRECTOR MYDEAR BB NG AND EE
Regards
Admin
el, why u quiet?
Believe Singapore, Malaysia etc. investment Ｓ investor of the Ｃ is freeze by the ＳＣ Ｆ at the ＡＣ from April of money be quite a few.Regrettable we drive all a group of person residue cheat, a little more existing still make cool criticism, lead ruthlessness?This person’s residue is a social parasite.Not in addition to sorry social people.
Its a sad day for SC investors!
Admin,
No facts to ascertain whether Albert Lee’s US 1.7 m in barclays. Even if what you claims that the $$$ are with Ng Choon Beng(BB NG)..DO you think he will return the $$.How?..Stop dreaming..
Hi David,
We cannot clap with one hand we need clap with 2 hand therefore we should get togeather all sc investor around the world to fight for our money. I’m sure we can take legal action against those guy behind swisscash scam. They might think they are too smart. To me now swisscash is run and operated by Malaysia and Singaporen mafia.
Admin,
I totally agreed with you…BAsed on the facts I gathered, the operators were mostly likely to be from Malaysia, singapore and indonesia..But, to nab the those scammers is not a easy task..Not to say recovered back the $$$. First no proof to prove how much u invested..Secondly, the $$ are hidden somewhere on earth away from the authorities eye and purview.. Thirdly, the govt and embassy already issued their warning already and if we choose to invest, it is at our own risk.
Another thing it is very labour intensive and tedious to nab those online investment programme operators..Most govt will not do commit that kind of resources to do it..Unless, there is an international demand for it such as the $$$ might be used for terrorist funding..Maybe FBI and CAI will go full swing into it. But no guarantee those culprits will be caught..
So most likely I foresee those $$$ are gone for sure..There must constitute a global arrest for BB NG(Ng Choon Beng), Albert Lee, Amir, Teddy santanto, Serene Chea and Lim Wee Beng, kelvin Choo…All are from the 3 countries.
Hi g0dfing3rz,
You sound like a decent person and I like you. Im very sorry for your loss. You have paid 1k for your education. Consider it an investment. There are many more ways to make money especially on the internet and it doesn’t have to involve stocks, CFOs, forex or mutual funds and you can start with as little as $20. Do your research on the internet and you might find it.
As for being constructive, the comments I made could be constructive but some people just will not accept it for some reason. All I said was this swisscash thing is illegal. Why not instead of telling me to buzz off, consider the insight and investigate further – that would make it constructive. Why is only the positive things about swisscash is accepted? Can’t the negative things be true? Is it not illegal since it is stopped by the law?
If swisscash is legal elsewhere as some people may have been led to believe then why don’t swisscash sue the Malaysian SC for disturbing their ‘legal’ business and causing people from all over the world to lose their money? Unless they ARE illegal elsewhere too. If swisscash is NOT illegal elsewhere then investors from these parts of the world could sue the Malaysian SC for quite a large sum I might add. If Swisscash is not illegal, the Malaysian SC wouldn’t even dare block their website.
The fact remains: Swisscash does not have the licence to collect funds for investment and is not exempted from having that licence. In other words (again!) it is illegal. CHANGING PARTNERS OR WEBSITES OR REPLACING THE CFO OR HIDING WILL NOT CHANGE THE FACT THAT SWISSCASH IS ILLEGAL.
Emotions and investing don’t mix but because of fluctuating stock prices it’s hard not to be. With swisscash the emotions are manifested when you are first introduced to it. Im sure that potential investors are asked a few questions that brings up emotions which could overide the thought process. You might have heard questions like ‘Would you like to earn a lot of money?’, ‘Would you rather be the spectator and watch others achieve their dreams?’ etc. They might even include affirmations ‘They’re paying on time’, ‘Ill show you my bank a/c’ etc. What about ‘The important thing is that you will receive money forget about everything’? They’ve played with your hopes and dreams and gave you confidence by paying on time. It makes some investors so confident that it would only be sensible to invest a lot more.
Just because swisscash is paying monthly doesn’t mean you can ignore the confusing facts about swisscash.
Swisscash claims to have 60 years of trademark, reputation and stability. What reputation? It’s been unknown in the financial world until now but as illegitimate.
Now it’s too late. At beginning non-investors were the stupid ones. We were told to go to hell, told to buzz off. Saying anything to investors is useless, they wouldn’t listen just because they receive payment but what they didn’t know is this kind of scam is not new e.g. swedenfund. Investors don’t want to know the facts because they are afraid to lose their hopes and dreams. Now this still applies to some investors. It’s not that swisscash is legitimate and legal, it’s just the investors wanting it to be legitimate and legal. Want and reality are 2 different things.
It’s just good to know that some investors are moving on and some are fighting for their money back. I do hope you and other investors get your money back.
Well said,
The fact is MSC did not caused swisscash to go offline..It is swisscash’s operators that decides to go offline and ran off on 18th Aug 2007. The mareva injuction is just a pretext..
Hi Mike
I was introduced to this program http://www.wdf-usa.com
6 months ago, they claim to have license to collect money for investment, have u heard of? Your opinions please. Thanks
Hi Investor,
The first thing I looked for when I opened the site is for the person in charge, the CEO (someone who could be held responsible), so I can look into it further in google. I couldn’t find him.
The next thing I did was open Alexa.com and got the traffic details. Users are mainly from Malaysia, Singapore, Taiwan, India and Iran in that order. None of them are from the US of A. (Red flag here)Then I clicked on overview. No company info shown.
Then I opened domaintools.com and typed in the URL. Some names show up like HICHINA WEB SOLUTIONS (HONG KONG) LIMITED, Mark Nelson and Bing Liu. You can look further into this.
So far their details don’t impress me at all.
who cares if SWISSCASH is a scam. They have been paying big bucks for the last 2 years.
I took the chance, prepared to lose, I made the bucks. that is all it couts.
Can’t affort to lose, just stay out, else don’t come crying like a baby to the press.
No question of legal or illegal, they don’t operate in Malaysia, none of BNM’s business. It is MY money, I decide how I like to spend / invest. Better than gambling sites. U think invest in KLSE is risk-free?
Anyway, BNM stay out of my way, it is MY money. Don’t be sibuk as if you hae nothing better to do.
Spoken like a true criminal. If you knowingly participate in a scam then you could go to jail.
Principal guaranteed by Swiss Mutual Fund (1948) but where is my principal. I would sue them but they are not real.
Don’t compare with KLSE. It is not the same. The risk in KLSE is real. The risk in Swisscash is they run away. You only think they don’t operate in Malaysia but you don’t know that. They surely don’t operate in the US or Europe or Dominica.
Is making the bucks all that matters? Since it is a scam, do you know where that money comes from? For all I know it’s your downline’s money. But it seems like you don’t care about others. Others who have suffered to pay for your commission. A criminal should go to jail…..
sorry, I DON’T have down line. I make money with my own investment, period.
And sorry, it was never my intention to be the good, holy lofty guy.
Oh, ya, KLSE risk is real, and they guarantee yr principal!
Swisscash runs away is not real risk!
Can’t stomach the risk, stay out, period.
KLSE guarantee your principal? WOW you’re smart.
I think Swisscash should put the risk in their salespitch. You know nothing about risk man. Swisscash running away is not a risk. It’s inevitable. It’s just a matter of when Holy Lofty Guy. Go back to school.
anyone knows what happen to the court hearings of sc in malaysia so far?
has anyone heard of any developments in the malaysian court case of sc yet?
dear investors,
got this news from http://www.swisscash.ning .com
any one of you could confirm or comment on this…
Officials confirmed Michel Mansfield death report
Updated Sat. Oct. 01 2007 11:24 PM ET
News Staff
Dominica and Malaysia officials confirmed a Indonesian newspaper report claiming Swisscash and Swiss mutual fund(1948) leader Michel Mansfield died three days ago in New Hospital in London. born 12 October 1941 – death 27 September 2007
I do not think so,Michael Mansfield passed away, I did looked other browsers, Nothing saying about Michael Mansfield….Please look at his first mispelling name….. OH PLEASE ! ! ! !
First there isn’t any real guy by the name of michael Mansfield except a lawyer, footballer……managing the fictitious company called SMF.
Secondly, the MSC’s mareva injuction is the cause of swisscash being went offline on 18th Aug 2007..But those swisscash operators choose to ran off..
That’s rich. What else would they come up with? Does Swisscash think people are so stupid?
Hey, i am interested in being one of the agents. please reply back for further details on wat i should do. Thanks
Hi El
Where Are You?
You talked about new site, Could you mind sending the Address to me,
Have you got any news?
yours Sincerely.
amircoyot@yahoo.com
” sorry,I can not English ”
see please: http://www.swisscashguide.com ???
I think… it is time for all of us to accept the fact that swisscash is not coming online anymore… if they do… means its a blessing. but for now, please just think 1 simple logic explanation. swisscash is dealling with millions of $$$. means there are professionals to deal with those $$$…. right. now, correct me if im wrong… banks, or even the mamak coffee shops do inform that they will be a temporary maintenance or holiday or…etc.. they also stated that when they will be back. noticed that if something wrong, any professional company will inform either by email, by calling, sms… to inform as about the good or bad news… but what about swisscash??? blogs??? I can create a simple blog and make out a story about swisscash saying good or bad things about it just to entertain investor’s feelings. or even to keep investor wait until the end of the day…. I remember when swisscash was still actively operated. even a few days maintenance… I received sms that saying “swisscash is temporary down for maintenance and will be back shortly.” – something like that. but now, where is the news which is directly from swisscash being emailed or smses??? all we know is from blogs… blogs that we can’t get any confirmation on it. now why we don’t receive any sms or emails from swisscash? easy… no one is working anymore.
SC = swisscash or Security Commissioner —> its a prophecy…. hehehehe SCam…
I support you of viewpoint.
We really that top phantom cheat, if you had understanding that to also cut on the whole this time to the network investment.
Be like me from start doing not understand, also at the right moment want to do some business at all, very unfortunate was ascend by me the line use to how hold to persuade be late invest 10 have another thousand new the currency return to 10% for how innocent younger brother a month also again throw down.Include my a pitiful friend so totally several:,000 tight all of US$ drive the card is in the ＳＣ .All of these are us hard hard-earned money.Now I this rascal and last line still makes cool criticism.This kind of person’s heart is stiller black than dog heart and the heel plant person has no two kinds.
Did you forget what you read on swisscashguide.com, “As of now, we are obliged to discontinue this great financial facility due to many fake legal problems, so we have given our total strength and
facilities to a new partner to continue this wonderful and extra-ordinary business for you and they are so busy planning for the new website
that is to be launched in 9 phases from September to October 2007 that will comprise of a few major changes of products and strategies.” See from sept to october 2007!! This is only the first week of October, don’t forget October has 31 days. Shouldn’t we all hold our judgment till 10/31/07?
Those who want to sue BB Ng or Serene Chea or other scash big money earners, what do you think you would achieve? These people were not the ones running swisscash. They are like you and I, scash investors. Only that they got in way before we did and made tons of money.. They don’t know anymore than we do. So leave them alone.. Frankly I don’t even know who they are. We investors should bear the consequence of investing in risky investment like swisscash since there really wasn’t anyone pointing a gun at our head to tell us to invest.
For those who believe scash is dead, let me say this: It’s not fair to declare scash dead at this point since the timeline is not up yet.. At least give scash the courtesy up till the timeline it mentioned on swisscashguide.com.
And bear in mind when the sites were shutdown there really was no way to email or sms anyone like what it used to do when the sites were shutdown for maintenance…
Frankly if scash wanted to bail out, they should have done that on 1st week of Sep. They would have pocketed A LOT more money since all investors would sign up more people to get more for SFP at the end of the month… So please don’t shoot your own foot yet, remain calm and watch. Only time will tell. For the sake of scash having made so many millionaires in the last 2.5 years, let’s at least give it the benefit of a doubt that it would honour its words as mentioned on swisscashguide.com.
Good is always rewarded, evil will be compensated with evil to diligently compare heart.
Dear Another SC investor,
I agree with your analysis & let’s wait till the end of OCT;
Our group of bloggers, which we all met @ Sabahan all agreed with your comment.
We are very positive SC will be back, if it don’t we have to accept that its our fate…….we took the RISK.
We all have tone down to just….. WAIT.
For those negative investors & non-investors who do not wish to wait till end OCT;….just carry on with your action plan to report on SC …. Its none of our business & we wish you well & please don’t encourage us to join you guys.
Cheers
GeoGeo
HI…GUYZ
I READ EVERYTHING ABOUT SWISSCASH HERE…….
LOOK I HAVE JUST ONE THEORY FOR PEOPLE WHO WANTS TO INVEST DER MONEY IN SWISSCASH…………………..
PEOPLE WHO HAVE ALREADY INVESTED ARE MAKING LOT OF MONEY…. SO MY THEORY IS TAKE A RISK MAY BE THE COMPANY WILL RUNAWAY AFTER 1 YR ,2 YR OR 1 DAY AFTER U INVEST DER IS ALWAYS A RISK INVOLVED…BUT ITS GIVING A GOOD RETURN IF U LUCK IS IN U CAN ALSO MAKE A LOT!!!! I HAVE INVEST 100USD ON 29-09-07 …ANY NEWS U HAVE OR ANY THING U WISH TO DISCUSS MAIL ME…
HIGHER RISK —HIGHER PROFIT.
hi suri, u said u hve invested usd100 on 29/9/2007 of which all of us know tht sc has shut down the website and no one can assess. how did u invest? which website did u log in? please reply by email @ ponchhl@yahoo.com.
iam also waiting for the scash to come back and return all our investment if not with the profits, the principal $ will do.
May God Be With Us………..
Ponch
we all hope for the best… like i said… if swisscash comeback, it will be a huge blessing to us. but if not… well, use our imagination. but as long as the authorities still hunting down swisscash… means its not safe for our money. even if swisscash is doing legitimate business or not… that doesn’t matter. if the authority don’t like it… well… nothing is perfect right. there are always an enemy. maybe some party is jealous for what swisscash’s achievement. if swisscash comes back… it will sure kick those fucking bitch’s asses.
all the best swisscash
On 09.09.07 how you will invest the $USD100
Man .. i really want to say that some of u guys stink ..When u want to pull investors in, u can tell them that principals are guaranteed by some stupid fund .. investing in millions of businesses … but when sc crashes all u can say is “u should have known the risk” crap …. no @#$%ing backbone
I cant believe u guys are crying about USD 100.00 when i lost USD4000
How about lost USD19300. What happen to mission and vision as we know to creat millionaire.
It’s merely a lips service just like “Principal Guarantee”
I m a swisscash investor too.
I doubt swisscash would ever both sms & email to its investors, it’s a simple things to do just gain its investors confidence that they will be back but it didn’t do it up till now. Remember the 9 phase that they will be back 1 phase at a time from Sept till end of Oct. so far not even 1 phase has gone thru, nor sms or email was sent to its investors. Think about it for yourself.
Swisscash never send sms or email until now 7 Oct. swisscash should send sms or email about position of swisscash to investor to make investor happy we got massage on 15 September but now already on 7 Oct please send sms or email to investor thanks
Lee
It is really shock that a scale of that size could actually go scout free so easily..The amt of $$$ scam should at least in the region of hundreds of millions.
There is nothing which investors can do now……
Serene chea and husband’s bank’s account:
Developement Bank of Singapore (DBS Bank)
Account Name: Global Access International Network
Account Number: 017-901-841-2
United Overseas Bank (UOB Bank Singapore)
Account Name: Global Access International Network
Account Number: 348-900-143-6
Maybank – Malaysia
Account Name: Chea Bee Choon Serene
Account number: 101-271-089-088
POSB/DBS – Singapore
Account NAme: Lim Wee Beng So called kenneth..and claimed to be a passive investor..
Account Number: 091-06699-8
These are the big time epts traders in malaysia, singapore and china..
more to follow:
jks,
YOU ARE A COWARD AND A JACKASS.
SKJ
Your consciences were eaten by the dog, because your purpose is for harm friend and close relatives by yourselves.Your Zheng is you friend’s friend’s friend’s hard-earned money, sooner or later will vomit.There is retribution.
jks,
Sigh! Don’t know what to say!
You put so much effort to find all the informations for the investors,are you an investors? How do you define “Big Time?” Do you have any other more concrete ways or plan to help us?
To be a person with the conscience otherwise will fold blessing.
Fyi..I am also an investor as well. The fact that I invested knowing that it is a scam..just wanna try mu luck..
Big time- Means creating your own groups and network and earning SFP…Selling and buying epts from so called swisscash dealers…and subsequently sell to your network…
As for plans: Report to authorities is the only way out..Swisscash is not going to return for sure..Don’t be fooled by the website(swisscashguide.com). Btw, there isn’t any financial company called asia pacific capital limited or sun financial…FOr sure it is also done by some scammers to the swisscash inner circle..Up to you to believe..
Let’s all swisscash investors take a closer watch on malaysian government, they are the one who started out with investors money being frozen, let’s see how they are going to end it up. Will swisscash investors’ money end up into their pockets? There’s always a possibility.
MALAYSIAN GOVERNMENTS OR SO CALLED SECURITY COMMISSION PLAY A VERY BIG ROLE BEHIND SWISSCASH DISAPPEARANCE.
If swisscash is really set up by malaysian, there could be a plot between Malaysian government & swisscash operator to lure global investors’ money, then freeze the money, undergoing a fake & corrupted trial in malaysia which will finally bring all swisscash investors’ money transferred to malaysia, and then case closed with all swisscash investors money plunged into their pocket. They are one of AXIS OF EVIL.
To all swisscash investors, watch this government real closely from credible news about the progress on swisscash’s future, the flow of investors’ money, your investment money is now determined in this government’s hands of which they absolutely have no right to do that to international swisscash investors, nor even to malaysian swisscash investors itself.
This govenment are the ones supposed to be held responsible for all swisscash investors’ money.
BRING THE MONEY BACK TO THE ONES WHO OWN THE MONEY WITH HARD-EARN. DON’T TAKE WHAT’S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE YOURS.
JKS,
I support you, can imagine you to be cheated much money with my same, so of civilization social, appear thus the civilization cheat person’s residue of money, is really our sorrow, society unfortunate, the world allow of no and these will have retribution.
Hi, sdi
You are totally wright, the malaysia goverment really blood-sucker, sucking the poor people hard-earning-living money, just what you wrote in the comment.
This goverment are the ones supposed to be held responsible for all swisscash investor’s money.
Bring the money back to the ones who own the money with hard-earn. Don’t take what’s not supposed to be yours.
Sorry, I repeat your’s sentences, BECAUSE IT WAS A VERY HUGE OF FUND FROM WOLD-WIDE POOR AND LOW INCOME PEOPLE HARD-EARNING MONEY.
Malaysia goverment why you must……..??????????
What is OFF-shore investment, PLEASE TO REPLY IT.
We got the wright to invest it.
HI…guyz
The site is down i guess ..but in INDIA ..(M From Bangalore) we r using http://www.swisscash25.org …….
somebody asked me about that…. see if u think its a scam den pls let me know how to stop these guyz coz they r operating in bangalore..and with little help we can pin down the operating point of the company… i ve invested 100USD on 29-09-07…but people here have made money out of this…..
So if somebody any government authority or an cyber crime or any scam prevention team etc….pls ask them to contact me …i have plans to get the company…..
HI…guyz
The site is down i guess ..but in INDIA ..(M From Bangalore) we r using http://www.swisscash25.org …….
somebody asked me about that…. see if u think its a scam den pls let me know how to stop these guyz coz they r operating in bangalore..and with little help we can pin down the operating point of the company… i ve invested 100USD on 29-09-07…but people here have made money out of this…..
So if somebody any government authority or an cyber crime or any scam prevention team etc….pls ask them to contact me …i have plans to get the company
Suri,
http://www.swisscash25.org is NOT a SwissCash website.
… and forget about waiting for SwissCash to reappear. It will NOT happen. Any website with swisscash or sip25 in its URL is definitely not to be trusted
In Malaysia I login to http://www.swisscash25.org finally the website is back on line but when I click ‘join us’ and click country Malaysia is not included.
Thank you
Andrew
Singapore and Indonesia investors plse check whether you can access
TQ
sdi,
I agree with you, the Malaysia Government could have behind the Swisscash drama, to collect funds for the nation building eg. the mega project 12KM 2nd Penang Bridge, east-coastal highway just to named the few. The current government leads by Barisan National Party held responsible for all world-wide investors’ money including their malaysian investors.
Swisscash is a mistery until today, who started it and finally closed, yet the Malaysia government just couldn’t really trace it down and stop it right back in late 2005, why? Dear investors, it is the Malaysian government hide all those information because the IT experts were assigned by them. We imagine all SMS & email came to investors are generated from KL Telekom Tower (Menara Telekom KL) yet government does not know, make don’t, but can be received throughout the world. Can individual operators of swisscash doing this? It is not easy in Malaysia to get these facilities if with the intention being illegal, but government bodies – possible.
Yes sdi, I agreed with you.
So, all world-wide swisscash investors, what shall we do now? It our money being conned!!
SwissCash is just the instrument used by these government and they themselves claim it as scam, then freeze it after collecting billions $$$ of world investors’ money.
These are all their drama.
Possibly, all Swisscash world-wide investors could write to Department of Prime Minister of Malaysia, Putrajaya, Malaysia or Malaysian ambassador in your own country for their action. Make it mandatory!
Hi Vishal,
How r u? I am Malaysian….Swisscash investor. I invested USD19,300.00 into this program. I know the risk that i am going to face when i putting my money in it. Very simple…High Return…High Risk.
If I willing to put that much of money into it…so i must face the risk…i know that….I think you also know the risk….right
When problem occurs…please….please…please don’t show your finger to Malaysian Government. Malaysian Government got no interest to take your money…i repeat, we don’t want your money!!
We had enough money here!! What Malaysian Government doing is to stop the Malaysian from keep sending their money to the program which is not genuine.
All action taken by Malaysian Government is to safe Malaysian…as you know Malaysian is the largest investors in this program.
The Malaysian Court has ordered Mr Amir Hassan (Malaysian) to transfered back his money USD35m from his account in 14 Banks at Singapore and Hong Kong within 7 days. Why….because Mr Amir Hassan is Malaysian…he is not from other country. Why Malaysian Court did not order to freeze the account of another 2 person which is trialled together with Mr Amir Hassan…very simple…because they are not Malaysian.
So, what do you think…i think you can lodges a police report in your country and wait for your government to investigate to find the Swisscash leader in your country and take necessary action…such as freeze their account and ask them to bring back the money into your country….very clear right.
Than…do not blame other people, especially other country. Blame your selves….when are your going to start lodges a police report?
Another things…be cooled..steady…because before we joined this program, our leader has told the risk.
That is about all friends…i hope you will understand and don’t just throw the sensitive issue when YOU YOURSELVES don’t have the proof and specific data.
Have a nice day and may GOD BLESS YOU..
Regards from Malaysia,
danial
hi everybody,I just got info that SC will come back at the end of october.I know this from Mr.Ibnu who said that he was informed by sc management people which name are Mr.Albert Lee and Mr.Kevin.Please check in the forum : http://www.swisscash-net.blogspot.com
Hi Danial,
I am Vishal, thank you that you correct me. I understand also its all our greed to invest in swisscash, as we know it was scam investment scheme.
Actually, Malaysian government, i.e the security Commission had warned investors in sept 2006, not to invest there. The problem here is, how many investors have read newspapers and really understand the message including myself.
What my opinion meant here is , if investors in other countries would want their money back, probably make report to Malaysia Ambasador in their country, so that money can be refunded to them when the court case settled later.
Have a nice day and may GOD BLESS YOU..too.
From Vishal.
Correction! The USD35M (I thought it was RM35M) does not belong to Amir Hassan. It is our invested money.
Next, correct me if I am wrong, but Swisscash had guaranteed us the principal. In the latest program, it said if it cannot maintained the 25% monthly payment, then this program would close and investors would get their principal back. At least in this statement, investors had the democratic right to choose to continue investing with Swisscash.
Hi Vishal
Do you think once court case settled, the MY govt will return us the money, I doubt so because, they do not have investors details and anybody and everybody will make a claim that they are swisscash investors. Chances are the money will be confiscated… (my opinion)
Any media report on court case? why the silence? Why this scam of century is not reported in media? Why only MY govt say swisscash scam? Can everyone ask your govt is swisscash scam and what the answer to you? Why CNBC Asia or international reputable media inside Asia never report abt SMF? never say SMF is questionable?
Pls look the news http://www.memberswisscash.com is true?
Lee
Dear Mikey Mark,
Are you still in here? I want to discuss something regarding your experiences in oil indsutry.
Please contact me via my email: genuinvestor@yahoo.com
Thanks before!
g0dfing3rz
Dear All
Please read page 285-286 of moneymakerforum and understand that swisscash is comming with new partner and e-commerce platform by 31st’oct’07.Be patient.
Cheers
Hi Sir,
Can you guide me further? As u mentioned “moneymakerforum” 285-286, i have browsed several times but there is not such page or forum.
Do you have the actual URL/or website address?
Cheers!
Thanks
Dear Investors
Swisscash will return by 31stOctober’2007.
News are now confirmed.
Cheers.
Dear Prabhakar,
Can you please share with us the source of this information?.
Thanks
NEWS FLASH !!! NEWS FLASH !!!
Latest news please watch Malaysia Channel News at 8 pm to 9pm. Saying that Swisscash is geniune and will be back …
Happy Hari Raya
BULL SHIT!
good news please read this web http://www.smf1948.blogspot.com
MR ravi i hope you you will be happy
Well, I invested USD1k to SC earlier this year. Since the shutdown, I’ve been waiting and waiting and good news after good news has came and gone. What’s new to this 31st Oct thingy? Well, at least there is news. But guys, don’t be surprised if it doesn’t come back, even though i really hope that it’ll come back. But I’ve grew numb to it already. I’m not waiting for the money to come just like that. I need the money for my studies in the states, not to get a new laptop or a BMW. I don’t care. All of us have a dream.. big or small… But still, we need to work towards it be it there’s SC or not. Good luck everyone. God bless…
Dear All,
Please read message of swisscash technical director Dr.Albert posted live chatting at memberswisscash.
Swisscash to return with new partner with e-commerce platform. There is no need to panic.With more than 5 lacs investors data to be transferred to new partner, there are lot of formalities to be completed.It absolutely takes 2-3 months.I am confident swisscash will start their operation by 31stOctober.
Cheers!
anybody can just log into the chat room as Albert Lee. How to ascertain whether the one is the real albert lee from swisscash? And how true is his news? Most likely it won’t be back for sure..
Read http://www.swisscashguide.com now!!
congratulations to all swisscash investors.
Hope this time the site lives upto its announcement.
Thank you my dear.Which country you belong.Send your details to my email address.I would like to join under you.
Yours,
Ramamoorthy.tm
arulmudi@yahoo.com
Dear All
Swisscash has announced, Phase I ,please read at
http://www.swisscashguide.com and pass the information to all your friends and real investors.
Three Cheers to swisscash for our Gateway to Financial Freedom.
Regards
RAVINDRA
hi to all investors!
finally our patience and our trust to swisscash had good result, it seems that it has returned and will be more powerful since before.
i personally congradulate to every swisscash member who have had faith to Sc.
the time of new financial freedom has launched!
MR ravindra before you give rong information in this sid i dont want to tell that sid name wich you say you can login
Folks,
Do not be too gullible at this time… this could very well be another ‘stalling’ tactic. It’s very likely that SC is totally gone. Seek alternatives and don’t waste good energy on a known pyramid which is exactly what SC was.
dear all sc invester,
finally in unuted state can open sc website now, i already withdrew 10k out by bank T.T.
cheeeeeeers
What’s the URL for the new website since you have TT’ed your money.
I like to be positive but today is only 14th, not 15th as advised in the swisscashguide.com . If you can’t answer this, you could be bluffing.
what was the url could you let us know please
Hahahahaha,
Do you think this guy’s from the states? No way. hahahaha. Sounds like arab to me or someone from some asian country. By the way investor’s spelt with an ‘o’.
I seriously think this guy’s arabic. or maybe he’s BB Ng.
Dear Investor,
Your login date shows 14.10.07,swisscashguide announced it will come back in USA on 15.10.2007,how come one day before and which is website ?
Can you reveal full details please to believe.
Awaiting your early reply.
Regards
RAVINDRA
Damn lie!! I don’t believe a word – all lies!
Hi all SC investors,
You all are just so stupid idiots! don’t you see that the real winner in this Pyramid Game is me, BB Mg, the marketing director of Swisscash (No.1 top upline in Asia) who is like God above any of you?
Who ask you to pump in money & invest? Then because of your own greed, you begin to pull in new members by your own accord.
Thank you for your charity anyway. I now becomes a millionaire enjoying my Karaoke, women, & liquor every night.
Do remember to support me in my next Ponzi scheme. I probably need some more cashflow by then. hahaha.
Bye & take care!
BB Ng
HP: +65 98511125
HEY, BB Ng
I do not think you are the real BB NG, Someone was making up to use the name ! ! .
Who ever wrote like this, You are born loser ! ! !
Why not you get your f&^%ing life ! I rather you jump in the quicksand ! ! ! !
For these people who wrote the non sense or negative, They are true immature people! ! !
Of course not. Can’t you see that he or she probably didn’t expect anyone to believe it. It’s a joke. No wonder swisscash thinks people are so stupid.
Get real man. Why can’t people write the negative stuff? Do you think believing only in the positive will make the world a better place? How immature!
Dear Dave from USA & Elizabeth,
I know both of you are from USA. Have you heard any news from swisscash or tried to log in to your swisscash a/c since on http://www.swisscashguide.com swisscash informed that it will be available for USA residents on October 15? Please kindly notify us here if you get any further message from swisscash or even manage to login to your account ? Thanks for your favor
HI,
Yes, I did checked the website and tried to login my account. SO far it is not working. I guess we have to wait or what ? I do not know if the website is fake ???
SO wait and see for few days to see what happens ! ! !
HAve a good week, Dave
Dear Dave & Elizabeth from USA,
Did u receive any msg from Swisscash. Is the web made available to US residents? Kindly advise. Thanks..
post script – My Indonesian friends succeeded in getting their money refunded this week, following the route of playing hardball with their agent and saying the police would be brought in if she failed to repay them.
s
MR Financial Journalist HK,
You are a B—–D of the first order. We had formally requested to keep your nose out of this matter you bloody pinochio. Did your son of a bitch indonesian friend give his upline the money to keep it for himself ? Did he not send it to the company for investment? The returns derived on your friends investment were to be enjoyed by his sponsorer or your friend? You good for nothing m—–fucker why dont you tell the people the right way to get their money back? Well we all have played our share of the risk of investing herein with swisscash. What do you want to proove by posting this comment here? Do you want all the 580000 investors sucking blood of their sponsorers? You Bloody CHAOS CREATOR fuck out of this forum. AS YOU HAVE EARLIER DECLARED THAT YOU HAVE NO INVESTMENT WITH SWISSCASH THEN WHY THE HELL ARE YOU POKING YOUR NOSE HERE.
YES CERTIANLY YOU ARE WELCOME HERE ONLY IF YOU HAVE A AMICABLE SOLUTION OF THE PROBLEM.
THANKX
Monty
I’d have thought any news about people getting refunded is useful.
However
On one side we have
A group of Indonesian female domestic helpers who recognised that their money seemed to have disappeared. Found the website was not replying (what a surprise) and pressurised their upline, who seemed to have sold them a dodgy deal- to refund their money. Now th